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[GMCnet] New steering box [message #103306] Sun, 17 October 2010 19:46 Go to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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Just got my baby back from shop
We installed a new refurbished steering box, and boy does she steer nice, My shoulders got so sore after 200 miles I would have to stop.
She is a real dream to drive now, not having to correct all the time
Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103317 is a reply to message #103306] Sun, 17 October 2010 21:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Marcel,

Glad to hear your GMC is easier to drive.

Now how about some details?

What shop did the work?

Where did they get the steering box?

Was it a standard or close ratio?

How much did it cost? Parts / Labor?

The reason I ask is because someone may run into steering problems over in
El Paso and the above info would help them get it fixed.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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Just got my baby back from shop
We installed a new refurbished steering box, and boy does she steer nice,
My shoulders got so sore after 200 miles I would have to stop.
She is a real dream to drive now, not having to correct all the time
Marcel
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Regards, Rob M. (USAussie) The Pedantic Mechanic Sydney, Australia '75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428 '75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103323 is a reply to message #103317] Sun, 17 October 2010 22:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gbarrow2 is currently offline  gbarrow2   United States
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I'm not near El Paso but I would like that Info also.
I've been complaining about my steering for a long time. Harder than it should be to turn and I constantly correct(and over steer) to stay between the lane lines.

Have replaced all steering and suspension components except the idler arm, tie rod ends and the steering box. All the replaced parts were worn out so it wasn't money wasted but I'm still not happy with my steering. If I knew a new box would solve my complaint I'd replace it tomorrow.

Also see new thread about alignment shop.


Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103348 is a reply to message #103317] Mon, 18 October 2010 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mjbourgon is currently offline  mjbourgon   United States
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I bought the new steering box from rock auto parts. A.S.A.P. auto did the
replacement in El Paso. the box before return of core was right at 125.00
plus freight. The labor was about 225.00 to replace unit. We will be
changing out the steering box on Gary's coach in next couple of weeks. She
used to wear out my shoulders not any more.
Jim bounds gave me the part number for it and if I am not mistaken it also
can be bought from NAPA
Best change I made
Marcel
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From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 20:45
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New steering box


> Marcel,
>
> Glad to hear your GMC is easier to drive.
>
> Now how about some details?
>
> What shop did the work?
>
> Where did they get the steering box?
>
> Was it a standard or close ratio?
>
> How much did it cost? Parts / Labor?
>
> The reason I ask is because someone may run into steering problems over in
> El Paso and the above info would help them get it fixed.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of
> mjbourgon@earthlink.net
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:46 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] New steering box
>
> Just got my baby back from shop
> We installed a new refurbished steering box, and boy does she steer nice,
> My shoulders got so sore after 200 miles I would have to stop.
> She is a real dream to drive now, not having to correct all the time
> Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103355 is a reply to message #103348] Mon, 18 October 2010 07:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Part numbers, please???


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> From: mjbourgon@earthlink.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:29:52 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New steering box
>
> I bought the new steering box from rock auto parts. A.S.A.P. auto did the
> replacement in El Paso. the box before return of core was right at 125.00
> plus freight. The labor was about 225.00 to replace unit. We will be
> changing out the steering box on Gary's coach in next couple of weeks. She
> used to wear out my shoulders not any more.
> Jim bounds gave me the part number for it and if I am not mistaken it also
> can be bought from NAPA
> Best change I made
> Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103364 is a reply to message #103348] Mon, 18 October 2010 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Marcel,

Thanks for the details, however, I hate to tell you this but I removed and
replaced the steering box on Double Trouble and it took me just about 30
minutes to:

1) remove the drag link from the pitman arm
2) remove the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
3) remove the steering box from under the coach and put it on a bench
4) remove the pitman arm from the steering box with a puller
5) install the pitman arm on the new steering box
6) install the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
7) install the drag link into the pitman arm

If the $225 for labor included an alignment it was reasonable, if not you
paid $450 per hour!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New steering box

I bought the new steering box from rock auto parts. A.S.A.P. auto did the
replacement in El Paso. the box before return of core was right at 125.00
plus freight. The labor was about 225.00 to replace unit. We will be
changing out the steering box on Gary's coach in next couple of weeks. She
used to wear out my shoulders not any more.
Jim bounds gave me the part number for it and if I am not mistaken it also
can be bought from NAPA
Best change I made
Marcel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 20:45
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] New steering box


> Marcel,
>
> Glad to hear your GMC is easier to drive.
>
> Now how about some details?
>
> What shop did the work?
>
> Where did they get the steering box?
>
> Was it a standard or close ratio?
>
> How much did it cost? Parts / Labor?
>
> The reason I ask is because someone may run into steering problems over in
> El Paso and the above info would help them get it fixed.
>
> Regards,
> Rob M.
> USAussie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of
> mjbourgon@earthlink.net
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:46 PM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: [GMCnet] New steering box
>
> Just got my baby back from shop
> We installed a new refurbished steering box, and boy does she steer nice,
> My shoulders got so sore after 200 miles I would have to stop.
> She is a real dream to drive now, not having to correct all the time
> Marcel
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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103369 is a reply to message #103306] Mon, 18 October 2010 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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However, when I replaced the leaking seal on mine, I think of the amount of hours that I spent getting things apart and back together, the labor would have come to $50/hour.

Laughing I think it's much easier when you know what you're doing and some of those parts haven't been married to each other for 35 years!



George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103373 is a reply to message #103364] Mon, 18 October 2010 10:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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[quote title=Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 07:17]Marcel,

Thanks for the details, however, I hate to tell you this but I removed and
replaced the steering box on Double Trouble and it took me just about 30
minutes to:

1) remove the drag link from the pitman arm
2) remove the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
3) remove the steering box from under the coach and put it on a bench
4) remove the pitman arm from the steering box with a puller
5) install the pitman arm on the new steering box
6) install the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
7) install the drag link into the pitman arm

If the $225 for labor included an alignment it was reasonable, if not you
paid $450 per hour!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow Rob!


Good for you. If I had done you what list above it would have taken me
all day, maybe more.

We are thinking about arranging work rally. Do you have interest in a
'all expenses paid' trip out to California?

We have a great indoor shop and my wife is an excellent cook!


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach

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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103375 is a reply to message #103373] Mon, 18 October 2010 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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that could be fun, and maybe I could get the 240sl done also

gene



>
>
> We are thinking about arranging work rally. Do you have interest in a
> 'all expenses paid' trip out to California?
>
> We have a great indoor shop and my wife is an excellent cook!
>
>


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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103378 is a reply to message #103373] Mon, 18 October 2010 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Richard,

Surely you jest regarding this job taking you all day!

I'd love to come to CA, unfortunately I'm tied up getting the Caddy 500 and
two awnings packed for shipment Downunder; getting the VW Beetle up and
ready to use as a towd for next year's tour; and finishing a few little jobs
on Double Trouble and prepping it for winter storage.

BTW I just noticed I left out two steps which were removing and installing
the lines on the steering box.

I must admit I was at Tom Hamptons shop when I did it and he had all the
correct tools and showed me exactly what / how to do it.

Still ain't rocket science.

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie

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Wow Rob!

Good for you. If I had done you list above it would have taken me
all day, maybe more.

We are thinking about arranging work rally. Do you have interest in a
'all expenses paid' trip out to California?

We have a great indoor shop and my wife is an excellent cook!

--
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California


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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103379 is a reply to message #103373] Mon, 18 October 2010 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Richard,

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 10:35 AM
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[quote title=Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 18 October 2010 07:17]Marcel,

Thanks for the details, however, I hate to tell you this but I removed and
replaced the steering box on Double Trouble and it took me just about 30
minutes to:

1) remove the drag link from the pitman arm
2) remove the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
3) remove the steering box from under the coach and put it on a bench
4) remove the pitman arm from the steering box with a puller
5) install the pitman arm on the new steering box
6) install the four bolts that attach the steering box to the frame
7) install the drag link into the pitman arm

If the $225 for labor included an alignment it was reasonable, if not you
paid $450 per hour!

Regards,
Rob M.
USAussie


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Wow Rob!


Good for you. If I had done you list above it would have taken me
all day, maybe more.

We are thinking about arranging work rally. Do you have interest in a
'all expenses paid' trip out to California?

We have a great indoor shop and my wife is an excellent cook!

--
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Chico California
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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103384 is a reply to message #103379] Mon, 18 October 2010 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bukzin, I can testify to the fact that Rob does not slack on time when he is working on his coach. He pulled all of the rear 4 wheels here at my house when he replaced a rear bearing. I came in from church on Sunday and he was "going to town" on it. He can work as he talks but he does stop work to eat. I learned a lot "supervising" his work here. I promise you, if you can get him in charge of a work rally somewhere there will be lots of work done. Rob can certainly "back up" anything he says when it comes to these old GMC coaches. A great guy to have as a friend.
I still remember his first post when he was bringing that coach home over in Australia. I thought the guy was nuts. Far from that.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] New steering box [message #103426 is a reply to message #103384] Mon, 18 October 2010 18:44 Go to previous message
stick miller is currently offline  stick miller   United States
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Rob - it took me more than 30 minutes to read your post...of course I am not fluent in Australian!

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