| GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102329] |
Sat, 09 October 2010 10:05  |
midlf
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I have a GM in tank fuel pump for, I believe, use with a carb. It is an EP-24. Pictures and installation instructions are here:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=36375&title=in-tank-fuel-pump-for&cat=4840
This pump is OEM NIB and was with a box of parts I got from my FIL. It is hand marked as being for a 69 Buick Riviera (which he once owned).
Bad news: I don't think this pump is still available. I could not find it doing some searches. Any one else have any better information.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102331 is a reply to message #102329] |
Sat, 09 October 2010 10:37  |
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I know nothing about your pump, but wanted to complement you on good photos. Lots of shots on the internet (not just here) are poor lighting, angles, blurry and no ruler for scale,,,,good job,,,PL
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| Re: GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102332 is a reply to message #102331] |
Sat, 09 October 2010 10:51 |
midlf
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| g.winger wrote on Sat, 09 October 2010 10:37 |
I know nothing about your pump, but wanted to complement you on good photos. Lots of shots on the internet (not just here) are poor lighting, angles, blurry and no ruler for scale,,,,good job,,,PL
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Thanks. Poor photos annoy me also. Most of the time I lock the flash off and get good diffused light on the subject. I also delete a lot of pics that just don't show what I want them to. The other thing that annoys me on the GMCPhotoArchive is pictures with no descriptions.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102381 is a reply to message #102378] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 07:20 |
midlf
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Ken - I can't get this link to work. What am I doing wrong?
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102383 is a reply to message #102370] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 08:11 |
midlf
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| emerystora wrote on Sat, 09 October 2010 21:42 |
The AC EP-24 crosses to an Airtex E3024.
It would be interesting to see some specs on the pump to find out what the psi is.
Emery Stora
On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Steve Southworth wrote:
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Thanks Emory. With your cross reference Airtex number I was able to search and find a part available. I ordered a REPB314509 from Auto Parts Warehouse. It references to a 69-70 Buick Riv, both engines. When I get it I'll run some tests for pressure and volume and report back. I'll also see if I can hook it up to a GMC tank sender (I have spares) similar to the Riv installation.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102384 is a reply to message #102382] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 08:24 |
midlf
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| Dennis S wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 07:30 |
Steve,
The link worked for me from your email -- but took about two minutes to load as it is a pdf ...
Dennis
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I see it is a PDF but our corporate system (which is usually very good) gives me a not resolved DNS error for it. I also found the same site on google while search for Emory's Airtex number but it would not work from there either. Oh well, I did find and order one of these pumps to play with.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102394 is a reply to message #102392] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 10:05 |
emerystora
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If the dimensions of the pump allow it the pump could be mounted
exactly as I mounted the higher pressure pump. My presentation is
being sent to Billy Massey for posting to the GMCMI web site
I am not home yet but i may be able to mail it to him from the road.
I am requesting Steve to send me psi results and dimensions.
There are various socks that will fit the bottom so that it can be
mounted upright in the tank.
Emery Stora
On Oct 10, 2010, at 8:47 AM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
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> I downloaded that file, but wonder how one
> would install one in the fuel tanks in the
> correct position to maximize fuel pickup!
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>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> From: midlf@centurytel.net
>> Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:11:10 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb
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>> emerystora wrote on Sat, 09 October 2010 21:42
>>> The AC EP-24 crosses to an Airtex E3024.
>>> It would be interesting to see some specs on the pump to find out
>>> what the psi is.
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>>> Emery Stora
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>>> On Oct 9, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Steve Southworth wrote:
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>> Thanks Emory. With your cross reference Airtex number I was able to
>> search and find a part available. I ordered a REPB314509 from Auto
>> Parts Warehouse. It references to a 69-70 Buick Riv, both engines.
>> When I get it I'll run some tests for pressure and volume and
>> report back. I'll also see if I can hook it up to a GMC tank sender
>> (I have spares) similar to the Riv installation.
>> --
>> Steve Southworth
>> 1974 Glacier TZE064V100150
>> Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102408 is a reply to message #102394] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 11:41 |
midlf
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| emerystora wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 10:05 |
If the dimensions of the pump allow it the pump could be mounted
exactly as I mounted the higher pressure pump. My presentation is
being sent to Billy Massey for posting to the GMCMI web site
I am not home yet but i may be able to mail it to him from the road.
I am requesting Steve to send me psi results and dimensions.
There are various socks that will fit the bottom so that it can be
mounted upright in the tank.
Emery Stora
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I was not thinking of mounting it upright but trying to mount it similar to the Riveria installion instructions I posted on the photo site. That way I would not have to make any modifications to the fuel pickup other than adding a thru bushing for the power lead to the pump. I've ordered one of the socks for a vertical mound and have a stock sock so we'll see how it goes.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102411 is a reply to message #102384] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 12:09 |
Ken Burton
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| midlf wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 08:24 |
| Dennis S wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 07:30 |
Steve,
The link worked for me from your email -- but took about two minutes to load as it is a pdf ...
Dennis
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I see it is a PDF but our corporate system (which is usually very good) gives me a not resolved DNS error for it. I also found the same site on google while search for Emory's Airtex number but it would not work from there either. Oh well, I did find and order one of these pumps to play with.
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I am just now getting back on GMCnet. I see others suggested the fix for your catalog access problem. If your DNS will not resolve the name, You could always temporarily change the DNS in your TCP/IP settings to 4.2.2.2 . You will have to change it back (probably to automatic) if you are using a corporate DNS to access local applications.
I was not suggesting any particular pump in that catalog. I was trying to point out that there were several low pressure in tank pumps available in that catalog.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102415 is a reply to message #102412] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 12:54 |
midlf
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| emerystora wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 12:11 |
Hi Steve
I looked at the MultiMedia picture that you had posted and I now see the Riviera instructions that you refer to. So you are planning on mounting it to the end of the stock GMC pickup tube. As long as it is supported properly so it can't flop around inside the tank it should work. You will not be able to pull quite as much fuel from the tank though as you could with a vertical mount as the pickup sock will suck air sooner.
When you get your pump please send me the dimensions and the psi output that you test.
Emery Stora
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As part of my installation I am planning on setting it up so it picks up as much as a stock setup. Not yet sure what that will entail but I have spare senders and tanks to play with.
for safety I plan to test using K-1 kerosene, for my pressure, flow and pickup bench testing. Anyone know any reason why this not a good idea?
I'll post the dimensions as soon as I get the pump. The pressure and flow tests will take a bit longer, as I've still gotta work for $. (Retirement will not mean I no longer have to work, just that I will not be paid to work.) The mounting and pickup tests will take even longer.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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| Re: [GMCnet] GM in tank fuel pump for carb [message #102440 is a reply to message #102436] |
Sun, 10 October 2010 18:16 |
midlf
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| Surbo wrote on Sun, 10 October 2010 18:02 |
Steve & Emery;
With a pump of that vintage, I would be concerned about it being compatible with the reformulated fuels of today.
Bob Drewes in SESD
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The ones I will be playing with I would expect to be of recent mfr. I will not be using the one I showed on the photo archive. I hope to sell that OEM NIB with instructions on EBay to some Riv fanatic. Hopefully I'll get enough to pay for what I have ordered.
Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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