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| Steering stabilizer [message #100368] |
Sun, 19 September 2010 18:02  |
GMCNUSA
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The spring loaded steering shock on my coach is a 4 Way brand and I have strange noises when I turn the steering wheel at very slow speed. The spring on the shock is about 2 inches from touching the end of shock mount. There seems to be some thought to remove these spring loaded devices. I have no experience installing or adjusting, this is my first vehicle with one. Need advice on what to do. I am not totally sure how it works it looks like if you need to hold steering to fight the crown of road or strong cross wind you would be pushing or pulling on the spring. I need to tighten or remove to confirm that the noise is the spring jumping on and off the shock end.
What did the GMC have as original equipment?
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100372 is a reply to message #100368] |
Sun, 19 September 2010 18:30  |
Ken Henderson
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Larry,
As far as I'm concerned, the spring loaded steering shock absorber is a
nonsense idea looking for a steering system to screw up. For just the
reasons you hinted. First off, under what conditions should it be adjusted?
A perfectly flat, level road with no wind so that it holds the steering
straight ahead? Fine, then when a cross wind, or a crown on the road called
for counter-steering, you'd have to fight the spring as well as the adverse
condition. What kind of sense does that make?
I took one off of my latest GMC as quickly as I could. I think some sucker
bought it at a flea market 'cause it was still shiny-new. I hope I sold it
to him cheap, so he didn't get gypped too badly. :-)
Original equipment was a simple shock absorber. While I didn't really miss
having it, I did install a new one. Problem was, in order to install the
abomination, they cut the OEM bracket from the frame. I had to devise a new
one. The original was welded; my replacement is bolted on.
Ken H.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Larry and Cheryl Dilk <lwd222@msn.com>wrote:
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> The spring loaded steering shock on my coach is a 4 Way brand and I have
> strange noises when I turn the steering wheel at very slow speed. The spring
> on the shock is about 2 inches from touching the end of shock mount. There
> seems to be some thought to remove these spring loaded devices. I have no
> experience installing or adjusting, this is my first vehicle with one. Need
> advice on what to do. I am not totally sure how it works it looks like if
> you need to hold steering to fight the crown of road or strong cross wind
> you would be pushing or pulling on the spring. I need to tighten or remove
> to confirm that the noise is the spring jumping on and off the shock end.
> What did the GMC have as original equipment?
>
>
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| Re: Steering stabilizer [message #100377 is a reply to message #100368] |
Sun, 19 September 2010 18:52 |
Keith V
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| GMCNUSA wrote on Sun, 19 September 2010 18:02 |
The spring loaded steering shock on my coach is a 4 Way brand and I have strange noises when I turn the steering wheel at very slow speed. The spring on the shock is about 2 inches from touching the end of shock mount. There seems to be some thought to remove these spring loaded devices. I have no experience installing or adjusting, this is my first vehicle with one. Need advice on what to do. I am not totally sure how it works it looks like if you need to hold steering to fight the crown of road or strong cross wind you would be pushing or pulling on the spring. I need to tighten or remove to confirm that the noise is the spring jumping on and off the shock end.
What did the GMC have as original equipment?
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IMHO, I'm with Ken, it's a product designed by someone who doesn't understand steering systems. Chuck it.
The only think I can think it would do is make the driver think something is different,it must be better.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100388 is a reply to message #100372] |
Sun, 19 September 2010 20:13 |
GMCNUSA
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Sun, 19 September 2010 19:30 |
Larry,
As far as I'm concerned, the spring loaded steering shock absorber is a
nonsense idea looking for a steering system to screw up. For just the
reasons you hinted. First off, under what conditions should it be adjusted?
A perfectly flat, level road with no wind so that it holds the steering
straight ahead? Fine, then when a cross wind, or a crown on the road called
for counter-steering, you'd have to fight the spring as well as the adverse
condition. What kind of sense does that make?
I took one off of my latest GMC as quickly as I could. I think some sucker
bought it at a flea market 'cause it was still shiny-new. I hope I sold it
to him cheap, so he didn't get gypped too badly. 
Original equipment was a simple shock absorber. While I didn't really miss
having it, I did install a new one. Problem was, in order to install the
abomination, they cut the OEM bracket from the frame. I had to devise a new
one. The original was welded; my replacement is bolted on.
Ken H.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Larry and Cheryl Dilk <lwd222@msn.com>wrote:
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> The spring loaded steering shock on my coach is a 4 Way brand and I have
> strange noises when I turn the steering wheel at very slow speed. The spring
> on the shock is about 2 inches from touching the end of shock mount. There
> seems to be some thought to remove these spring loaded devices. I have no
> experience installing or adjusting, this is my first vehicle with one. Need
> advice on what to do. I am not totally sure how it works it looks like if
> you need to hold steering to fight the crown of road or strong cross wind
> you would be pushing or pulling on the spring. I need to tighten or remove
> to confirm that the noise is the spring jumping on and off the shock end.
> What did the GMC have as original equipment?
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Keith and Ken thanks for the replys and supporting my very unexperienced thought to remove the spring and install a new shock.
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100407 is a reply to message #100388] |
Sun, 19 September 2010 22:22 |
Carl S.
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Larry,
I got mine from Applied GMC:
http://www.gmcrvparts.com/prod.itml/icOid/654
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100417 is a reply to message #100407] |
Mon, 20 September 2010 08:01 |
Steven Ferguson
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Carl,
I'm pretty sure that is not the unit in discussion here. There is a
product out there called "Steer Safe" that can really mess up a front
end if not installed perfectly correct, and it seldom is. Sometimes,
even then, it increases problems vice solving them. All too often
it is used as a bandaid for some other problem.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Larry,
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> I got mine from Applied GMC:
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> http://www.gmcrvparts.com/prod.itml/icOid/654
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> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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| factory Steering stabilizer [message #100419 is a reply to message #100417] |
Mon, 20 September 2010 09:02 |
bukzin
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So, the correct (factory) version of this part
improve steering?
Mine looks like its 30 years old. Should I replace it?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100425 is a reply to message #100417] |
Mon, 20 September 2010 11:49 |
Carl S.
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[quote title=Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 20 September 2010 06:01]Carl,
I'm pretty sure that is not the unit in discussion here. There is a
product out there called "Steer Safe" that can really mess up a front
end if not installed perfectly correct, and it seldom is. Sometimes,
even then, it increases problems vice solving them. All too often
it is used as a bandaid for some other problem.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Larry,
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> I got mine from Applied GMC:
>
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com/prod.itml/icOid/654
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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Yeah Steve,
I thought Larry was talking about replacing that "Steer Safe" unit with a standard steering stabilizer.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Steering stabilizer [message #100494 is a reply to message #100425] |
Mon, 20 September 2010 22:44 |
GMCNUSA
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[quote title=Carl S. wrote on Mon, 20 September 2010 12:49]| Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 20 September 2010 06:01 |
Carl,
I'm pretty sure that is not the unit in discussion here. There is a
product out there called "Steer Safe" that can really mess up a front
end if not installed perfectly correct, and it seldom is. Sometimes,
even then, it increases problems vice solving them. All too often
it is used as a bandaid for some other problem.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
> Larry,
>
> I got mine from Applied GMC:
>
> http://www.gmcrvparts.com/prod.itml/icOid/654
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
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> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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Steve Ferguson
Sierra Vista, AZ
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Yeah Steve,
I thought Larry was talking about replacing that "Steer Safe" unit with a standard steering stabilizer.
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You guys are correct I had an aftermarket spring over shock that mounted between the frame and the steering cross link. I am replacing it with factory setup new dampner.
Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
76 Eleganza II
Patterson 455,Turbo City TBI,
Just LOVE It!
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