| A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99809] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 20:24  |
hertfordnc
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Last weekend I accidently bought a 2006 Civic Hybrid. So i got a little caught up in what the kids are doing ot maximize mileage.
They actually drive without AC to get 3 extra MPG- (screw that)
But they also inflate the tires to the max number on the sidewall and some go op over 50 PSI.
Is the this just uncomfortable or stupidly dangerous?
thanks
dave
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99814 is a reply to message #99809] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 20:31  |
Dennis S
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Dave,
Some aspects of so-called hypermileage driving are dangerous -- tailgating trucks, etc...
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
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From: dave silva <gmc@davesilva.com>
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Sent: Tue, Sep 14, 2010 8:24 pm
Subject: [GMCnet] A little common sense from the adults? non GMC
Last weekend I accidently bought a 2006 Civic Hybrid. So i got a little caught
p in what the kids are doing ot maximize mileage.
They actually drive without AC to get 3 extra MPG- (screw that)
But they also inflate the tires to the max number on the sidewall and some go op
ver 50 PSI.
Is the this just uncomfortable or stupidly dangerous?
thanks
dave
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99824 is a reply to message #99809] |
Tue, 14 September 2010 21:24 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| hertfordnc wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 19:24 |
Last weekend I accidently bought a 2006 Civic Hybrid. So i got a little caught up in what the kids are doing ot maximize mileage.
They actually drive without AC to get 3 extra MPG- (screw that)
But they also inflate the tires to the max number on the sidewall and some go op over 50 PSI.
Is the this just uncomfortable or stupidly dangerous?
thanks
dave
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If it has the original spec tires, they are already low rolling resistance and have reduced grip. Other than medium and heavy duty trucks, I would never run the tires at the maximum printed on the sidewalls.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99841 is a reply to message #99839] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 00:17 |
James Hupy
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Dan, I know that you are a VW nut. I had a diesel jetta that would always go
400+ miles on 10 gallons of diesel. I drove it like you drive a bug, foot to
the floor up to the speed limit. I drove it as a driver when I was looking
for a VW rabbit pickup with a blown engine that I could swap the diesel
into. Never found one and someone wanted a first car for his daughter and
offered me an obscene amount of money for the jetta, so I sold it to him. It
had 225,000 miles on it and still ran without burning any crankcase oil. It
was a 5 speed manual trans. Helluva lot better built car than a honda.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Bob, Road and Track just did an article on them. I thought sure the little
> one was the new civic. Whatever it was I liked the look. It probably had a
> rear seat but it looked like a 2 seat sports car. I am not much on the
> present day hybrids but I could handle this one. I also like the Camry that
> Rob has. I think Ford's is same car, different body.
> Anyway, send me a picture of your new car Bob.
> Dan,
> trying to keep the Vibe gt rolling, waiting on a solid 40 mpg car, not
> hybrid.
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99845 is a reply to message #99829] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 06:24 |
hertfordnc
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 21:49 |
Dave, is that the little one that is real short on the back end? Looks like a 2 seater. I like the looks. The Prius is ugliest car out there.
Dan
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Mine looks like this:
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/2006/civic-hybrid/certified-used/overview-panorama.jpg
Honda's response to the Prius, which has a unique look, is to make a hybrid that looks like the rest of model line.
Of course, the hybrid relies heavily on good driving practice to achieve good MPG. But I can get a steady 40 MPG just by not driving like a teenager.
The hypermilers are missing the point, anybody can design a fuel efficient car if you want to give up comfort, freeway speeds and climate control. But that's just not the American Way (do the Aussies and the Canadians here feel the same?)
My question about tire pressure is this;
the 44 psi on the sidewall is based on MAX load of 1800 lb per wheel which I am not going to achieve.
I don't mind the ride at that pressure and i like the MPG but is it safe to run tires that hard when you only have about 800 LB on each wheel?
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99867 is a reply to message #99839] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 08:40 |
Bob de Kruyff
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| WD0AFQ wrote on Tue, 14 September 2010 22:12 |
Bob, Road and Track just did an article on them. I thought sure the little one was the new civic. Whatever it was I liked the look. It probably had a rear seat but it looked like a 2 seat sports car. I am not much on the present day hybrids but I could handle this one. I also like the Camry that Rob has. I think Ford's is same car, different body.
Anyway, send me a picture of your new car Bob.
Dan,
trying to keep the Vibe gt rolling, waiting on a solid 40 mpg car, not hybrid.
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Oh--you are talking about the new CRZ--yes that is a Civic. Sorry about that!
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99912 is a reply to message #99877] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 13:09 |
JimGunther
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"Accidently"???
Like, "a couple years ago I bought a GMC Motorhome"
or
"The dog ate my homework"
or
(Explaining to mom while pointing at the big dog) "He followed me home, Can I keep 'em?"
All kidding aside, When does the battery (or whatever magic thing keeps it going) need to be "serviced". Bet it costs more that replacing the timing belt.
Jim Gunther
www.LotusV6.com
now former owner - ;(
73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99935 is a reply to message #99930] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 14:46 |
Keith V
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All I know is everytime I do the math, the payback period for replacing my 215,000 mile 22mpg 1996 Caravan is the entire life of the next three cars I'm likely to own.
If you want to save money you buy a cheap car.
If you want to protect the environment you keep your current car as long as possible.
If you want to make the Toyota execs wallets a little fatter you buy a hybrid.
15000miles per year, 22 mpg = 681 gallons of gas.
60mpg = 250 gallons
$3 per gallon, 681 gallons = $2045
250 gallons = $750
so I could save $1795 in gas a year.
Subtract higher insurance.
subtract higher license tab fees.
subtract car loan interest or lost interest income and you might save $1000 a year.
So it would take 20 to 26 years to make the Prius worth while financially.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99936 is a reply to message #99935] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 14:48 |
Keith V
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| Keith V wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 14:46 |
All I know is everytime I do the math, the payback period for replacing my 215,000 mile 22mpg 1996 Caravan is the entire life of the next three cars I'm likely to own.
If you want to save money you buy a cheap car.
If you want to protect the environment you keep your current car as long as possible.
If you want to make the Toyota execs wallets a little fatter you buy a hybrid.
15000miles per year, 22 mpg = 681 gallons of gas.
60mpg = 250 gallons
$3 per gallon, 681 gallons = $2045
250 gallons = $750
so I could save $1795 in gas a year.
Subtract higher insurance.
subtract higher license tab fees.
subtract car loan interest or lost interest income and you might save $1000 a year.
So it would take 20 to 26 years to make the Prius worth while financially.
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Dang, screwed up my math, it's even worse, you only save $1295 a year in gas...
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: A little common sense from the adults? non GMC [message #99975 is a reply to message #99936] |
Wed, 15 September 2010 21:05 |
hertfordnc
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| Keith V wrote on Wed, 15 September 2010 14:46 |
All I know is everytime I do the math, the payback period for replacing my 215,000 mile 22mpg 1996 Caravan is the entire life of the next three cars I'm likely to own.
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When you get a car like that it becomes free to drive, the cost of fuel doesn't matter.
But in this case, i'm starting over and it comes down to cost per mile, I think the Civic will come in at bout $.17 for total cost of ownership including fuel.
Better than any car I own or have owned.
It really is getting a steady 41 MPG, the resale is good. We'll see what happens.
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