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[GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98774] Mon, 06 September 2010 17:49 Go to next message
Steve Phillips is currently offline  Steve Phillips   United States
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Hi all

I am needing a web site that shows how to adj. the air suspicion om my
78 Birch. It's a dual system .
Any help appreciated.

Steve
78 Birch
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98775 is a reply to message #98774] Mon, 06 September 2010 17:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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Steve

Here is one...

http://gmccoop.com/ride_height_adjust.htm


Dennis Sexton




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i all
I am needing a web site that shows how to adj. the air suspicion om my
8 Birch. It's a dual system .
Any help appreciated.
Steve
8 Birch
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98779 is a reply to message #98775] Mon, 06 September 2010 18:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Phillips is currently offline  Steve Phillips   United States
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Thanks Dennis this should help'.

Steve




On 9/6/2010 4:52 PM, Dennis S wrote:
> Steve
>
> Here is one...
>
> http://gmccoop.com/ride_height_adjust.htm
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> i all
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> 8 Birch. It's a dual system .
> Any help appreciated.
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98781 is a reply to message #98774] Mon, 06 September 2010 18:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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here are some things to read through

http://www.gmcmotorhome.info/levelsch.htm#EL-II

gene



On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 3:49 PM, steve <mr34@pipeline.com> wrote:

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> Hi all
>
> I am needing a web site that shows how to adj. the air suspicion om my
> 78 Birch. It's a dual system .
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Steve
> 78 Birch
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98799 is a reply to message #98774] Mon, 06 September 2010 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you have questions that require a lengthy answer, feel free to contact me
off net at jamesh1296@gmail.com and I will try to help. I have a 78 Royale
that has the same system called EL II. I have worked on it and have learned
quite a bit about them.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

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>
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> Any help appreciated.
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98813 is a reply to message #98774] Tue, 07 September 2010 06:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A work of warning when adjusting the rear ride height. I have found that the mechanical sensors in the rear have a dead band area. After adjusting the rears take the coach for a ride and bring it back to a level place. Then immediately check the rear height again. I think you will find it has moved. adjust the sensor links appropriately and take it for another ride. After two or three trips you will have it set correctly.

Also cut your self a couple of 2x2 or 2x4 wood blocks measured to the correct height. Then use them under the frame for checking the height. It is a lot easier using the wood blocks than measuring to the top of the holes.

I also have been playing with front ride height and wheel loading using a set of scales. I have found 1/4 inch difference in the rear ride height adjustment will cause a 150 pound difference on the front diagonal wheel loading. I mention this so you will attempt to get the rear adjustment as closely as possible to spec.

Good luck. It is not difficult to get it adjusted correctly.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98819 is a reply to message #98813] Tue, 07 September 2010 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Both Dave Lenzi and I sell adjustable ride height links which make the
adjustments somewhat easier. They're sort of like turnbuckles so you just
have to loosen jam nuts then turn the center portion to change the length of
the connecting rod. It's easier to make fine adjustments with them than by
tinkering with the OEM adjustment.

Dave's are beautiful, with SS parts & Heim joints. Mine are cheaper, with
gold cadmium plated steel & sealed ball joints. Both available from JimK or
direct.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
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On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:

> A work of warning when adjusting the rear ride height. I have found that
> the mechanical sensors in the rear have a dead band area. After adjusting
> the rears take the coach for a ride and bring it back to a level place.
> Then immediately check the rear height again. I think you will find it has
> moved. adjust the sensor links appropriately and take it for another ride.
> After two or three trips you will have it set correctly.
> ...
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98821 is a reply to message #98813] Tue, 07 September 2010 07:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken Burton wrote on Tue, 07 September 2010 06:08

A work of warning when adjusting the rear ride height. I have found that the mechanical sensors in the rear have a dead band area. After adjusting the rears take the coach for a ride and bring it back to a level place. Then immediately check the rear height again. I think you will find it has moved. adjust the sensor links appropriately and take it for another ride. After two or three trips you will have it set correctly.

Also cut your self a couple of 2x2 or 2x4 wood blocks measured to the correct height. Then use them under the frame for checking the height. It is a lot easier using the wood blocks than measuring to the top of the holes.

I also have been playing with front ride height and wheel loading using a set of scales. I have found 1/4 inch difference in the rear ride height adjustment will cause a 150 pound difference on the front diagonal wheel loading. I mention this so you will attempt to get the rear adjustment as closely as possible to spec.

Good luck. It is not difficult to get it adjusted correctly.

i put some of Ken's adjustable links on my coach and now it pulls to the right. could i have the load off on one side?


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98824 is a reply to message #98821] Tue, 07 September 2010 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Fred,

When I make the links, I have a jig which sets them to exactly the same
length as the original fixed links. If it pulls, you changed something
(like the length of the links). :-)

Darn it, they keep changing my adjustable links!

Ken H.



On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:33 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:

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> i put some of Ken's adjustable links on my coach and now it pulls to the
> right. could i have the load off on one side?
>
> --
> Fred V
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Re: [GMCnet] NEED WEB SITE ON ADJUSTING THE AIR RIDE [message #98841 is a reply to message #98824] Tue, 07 September 2010 10:05 Go to previous message
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I have found that the ride height sensors don't all work exactly the same
way. This is a cut and try process to get the rear ride height exactly right
and responsive to changes in loading like full freshwater tanks & gasoline
tanks. That is why the adjustable links are important. Also, the led's and
photo transistors which are all 30 plus years old, can and do fail and/or
get enough mud & dirt inside to react kinda funny. It is a GMC after all, it
is just the best, not perfect.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 Royale 403

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Fred,
>
> When I make the links, I have a jig which sets them to exactly the same
> length as the original fixed links. If it pulls, you changed something
> (like the length of the links). :-)
>
> Darn it, they keep changing my adjustable links!
>
> Ken H.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:33 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > i put some of Ken's adjustable links on my coach and now it pulls to the
> > right. could i have the load off on one side?
> >
> > --
> > Fred V
> >
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