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[GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:26 Go to next message
gmc gmc is currently offline  gmc gmc   United States
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ok first my house battery tray all rusted. I will order nice new one from
that company here on list.

but for now or this weekend Think carpenter buddy and I will jsut put in a
2x12 or whatever for the weekend trip. that will work right?

Then buy whatever batteries you all recommend. 2 deep cycle golf cart
batteries in series I recall is best???? I might be plugged in to 110 90%
of time, but when driving or nights or some rare times might need house
batteries.

then what store and brand is most recommended???? I have autozones or farm
and fleets here as well as most other stores as am in a larger or medium
size city :)

thanks so much for great advices.

Mike Derr
Madison, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97849 is a reply to message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""then what store and brand is most recommended???? I have autozones or farm
and fleets here as well as most other stores as am in a larger or medium
size city Smile

""

Mike, if you have Sam's Club, or Costco, those would be the best deals on 6V golf cart batteries (and yes, in series). If not, Interstate is a descent supplier as well.


Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97853 is a reply to message #97849] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I bought 2 golf cart batteries from Costco in Livermore, Ca. and plopped them on the Duane Simmons Polyethylene tray that I'd bought some time ago. The batteries were $77 each, but they nicked me for a $10 core fee Grrrrrr. The tray makes sliding in and out very easy, and it is sized just right for my Palm Beast.

We will dry camp for a night or two over the weekend and these batteries give us plenty of juice for lights, radio, toilet, water pump, and so on.

I'm considering putting a solar panel on the roof to keep the charge up, since we have so much sunlight, and our dry camping is rarely more than 2 days I'm thinking a small one would do the trick. Also our Progressive Dynamics charger should be able to maintain the batteries very well.


Larry Davick
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Fremont, Ca
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97855 is a reply to message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,
Since it does not appear that you will be using the battery power a lot, consider using just one deep discharge battery. Available at Walmart, around $75 and easier to install than two 6 volt batteries.
The battery compartment floor is plywood and your carpenter friend can probably make a nice replacement -- you could then use a simple plastic tray screwed to the floor and a battery hold-down from Autozone to secure the battery.

Dennis

gmc gmc wrote on Mon, 30 August 2010 19:26

ok first my house battery tray all rusted. I will order nice new one from
that company here on list.

but for now or this weekend Think carpenter buddy and I will jsut put in a
2x12 or whatever for the weekend trip. that will work right?

Then buy whatever batteries you all recommend. 2 deep cycle golf cart
batteries in series I recall is best???? I might be plugged in to 110 90%
of time, but when driving or nights or some rare times might need house
batteries.

then what store and brand is most recommended???? I have autozones or farm
and fleets here as well as most other stores as am in a larger or medium
size city Smile

thanks so much for great advices.

Mike Derr
Madison, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97856 is a reply to message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The tray's are out of stock at JimK's, and Duane is ill, so it'll be a while. I'm waiting for one too...

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97857 is a reply to message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 19:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just purchased two golf cart batteries from Sam's Club (the local Costcos don't carry them around me), and they seem to do a nice job and have a reasonable warrantee.

The nicest battery tray I've found is the one JimK carries that has the poly battery tray mounted with heavy-duty stainless slides that allow you to easily slide them out for servicing. Not cheap, but very well made and worth the money (IMHO).


George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97858 is a reply to message #97846] Mon, 30 August 2010 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm running a Lifeline 8D agm battery and it works great. Was a bit of a PITA due to the weight, but the battery has performed flawlessly...

73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97893 is a reply to message #97858] Mon, 30 August 2010 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Has anyone gone all electric on their GMC? I'm just starting on a total
resto which will be a Florida coach
and i don't care for propane, and i would take out the gas heat and maybe
put 12v heat tapes under the floor covering
for the few times i might need it, I was thinking of putting 2- 8d's where
the tank is and a 3'd one next to the
onan and installing a 3000 watt inverter. till me if you all think that
would work.WOW, thats adding 400 #.
thanks for the advise,
larry erd

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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97897 is a reply to message #97893] Tue, 31 August 2010 03:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You will get way more energy per pound using propane for cooking and the refrigerator. If you want to remove the furnace that is your call. It does not weight much and you will not gain that much space by removing it.

Total electric does not sound bad until you figure out how much you have to give up in cost, weight, operational time off of shore power or running the generator at $3.00 a gallon.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97907 is a reply to message #97846] Tue, 31 August 2010 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry, 12Volt heat tapes? I'd be doudtful about how much heat they would contribute and if it was sufficient, how long it would work on batteries. Remember, Ohm's law. If something uses (draws) 5 amps at 110V to contribute 550 Watts, the equivalent at 12V would be in excess of 50 AMPS !!!! Batteries and other 12V stuff don't like this !!!!

DAVE KING


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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97934 is a reply to message #97907] Tue, 31 August 2010 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you rarely overnight, without 110 volts, don't waste a lot of money on batteries. Do like Dennis says, one 12volt from Walmart is about 75 bux. You won't be watching 6 hours of tv on it but it will keep your lights on til bedtime. It should run your funace most of the night, if you shut your lights off early.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97981 is a reply to message #97934] Tue, 31 August 2010 17:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i converted the entire coach to LED lights and Shur-flo fans. We can now go
a few days on a single wally world battery!

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New Albany, IN
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> If you rarely overnight, without 110 volts, don't waste a lot of money on
> batteries. Do like Dennis says, one 12volt from Walmart is about 75 bux. You
> won't be watching 6 hours of tv on it but it will keep your lights on til
> bedtime. It should run your funace most of the night, if you shut your
> lights off early.
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97990 is a reply to message #97981] Tue, 31 August 2010 17:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have done same but many folks don't want to mess with led lights, especially if they are plugged in all or most of the time. My big "battery getter" is two tv's and recharging 2 laptops, after dark. I try to have laptop batteries charged before the sun goes down. My new one will run 6-7 hours on battery so that gets me to bedtime.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #97996 is a reply to message #97990] Tue, 31 August 2010 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,



Have you documented your solar set-up, or do you know if there is a good resource for adding solar to the coach?



I should have started a new thread...

Larry Davick
Fremont, California
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'76 (ish) Palm Beach

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I have done same but many folks don't want to mess with led lights, especially if they are plugged in all or most of the time. My big "battery getter" is two tv's and recharging 2 laptops, after dark. I try to have laptop batteries charged before the sun goes down. My new one will run 6-7 hours on battery so that gets me to bedtime.
Dan
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I should have started a new thread...

Larry Davick
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The Mystery Machine
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I have done same but many folks don't want to mess with led lights, especially if they are plugged in all or most of the time. My big "battery getter" is two tv's and recharging 2 laptops, after dark. I try to have laptop batteries charged before the sun goes down. My new one will run 6-7 hours on battery so that gets me to bedtime.
Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #98004 is a reply to message #97996] Tue, 31 August 2010 20:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't think so Larry. It is simple to do correct. Many installers do not do it right so the purchaser gets less than he pays for.
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #98142 is a reply to message #98004] Wed, 01 September 2010 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok... added new wood floor to battery area, old one rotten. We did nto use
treated wood though yet, will do in near future before i buy a sliding tray.

So if I buy 2 6 volt battery's, I need to get a little jumper cable? as I
see - and + cables there now...

Or I can just buy 1 deep cycle Optima maybe brand battery? or a deep cycle
marine battery and be all ok?

I do not use the GMC much really a few times a year is all, hope to use it
more next year though. But have long winter her ein WI, but I can take
those battery(s) out in winter and store in basement and trickle charge em

thanks for advice I buy a battery or 2 tomorrow based on advices here.

appreciate all help.

Mike Derr
Madison, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #98151 is a reply to message #98142] Wed, 01 September 2010 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike,

Two 6 volt golf cart batteries will be about the same price as one Optima at Sams Club. Most battery power for the buck. I've had two different sets that gave good service for 8 years. Main caution - if you still have original buzz box charger, don't leave it plugged in charging batteries when coach is not in use.

Hal Kading 77 Kingsley 455 Las Cruces NM
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I am using two Sam's Club Golf Cart batteries, and they seem to work just fine.

The Optimas seem to be more prone to failure these days. I had some years ago that seemed to last forever, but the last two I bought (for other cars) lasted only a bit longer than their warrantee (which has been shortened by Optima). Nice batteries, but I don't think they're worth the extra money they cost these days.


George Rudawsky
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #98157 is a reply to message #98142] Thu, 02 September 2010 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just did this. I replaced a big single "heavy duty" battery with two Costco golf cart batteries. These have the screw terminals and my local auto parts store had exactly what I needed. I think my cable is too long - the shortest they had was 14" but it worked out very well.

I replaced the positive cable too, since it had some corrosion.

Larry Davick
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On Sep 1, 2010, at 8:11 PM, gmc gmc <gmc@derr.ws> wrote:

> ok... added new wood floor to battery area, old one rotten. We did nto use
> treated wood though yet, will do in near future before i buy a sliding tray.
>
> So if I buy 2 6 volt battery's, I need to get a little jumper cable? as I
> see - and + cables there now...
>
> Or I can just buy 1 deep cycle Optima maybe brand battery? or a deep cycle
> marine battery and be all ok?
>
> I do not use the GMC much really a few times a year is all, hope to use it
> more next year though. But have long winter her ein WI, but I can take
> those battery(s) out in winter and store in basement and trickle charge em
>
> thanks for advice I buy a battery or 2 tomorrow based on advices here.
>
> appreciate all help.
>
> Mike Derr
> Madison, WI
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Re: [GMCnet] Best Battery solution for house batteries??? [message #98160 is a reply to message #98142] Thu, 02 September 2010 03:48 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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gmc gmc wrote on Wed, 01 September 2010 22:11

ok... added new wood floor to battery area, old one rotten. We did nto use
treated wood though yet, will do in near future before i buy a sliding tray.

So if I buy 2 6 volt battery's, I need to get a little jumper cable? as I
see - and + cables there now...

Or I can just buy 1 deep cycle Optima maybe brand battery? or a deep cycle
marine battery and be all ok?

I do not use the GMC much really a few times a year is all, hope to use it
more next year though. But have long winter her ein WI, but I can take
those battery(s) out in winter and store in basement and trickle charge em

thanks for advice I buy a battery or 2 tomorrow based on advices here.

appreciate all help.

Mike Derr
Madison, WI




Go to TSC. Here are a couple of jumper cables that will work for you:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/vehicle-maintenance-accessories/vehicle-batteries/vehicle-battery-chargers-accessories/vehicle-battery-cables/cable-switc h-12-in-x-1-ga-size-black-color-0474500

http://www.tractorsupply.com/vehicle-maintenance-accessories/vehicle-batteries/vehicle-battery-chargers-accessories/vehicle-battery-cables/cable-switc h-12-in-x-4-ga-size-red-color-0474403

I think Wally World has some hanging on hooks near the batteries.





Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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