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Re: [GMCnet] Thermasan Waste Distruct System [message #97789] |
Sun, 29 August 2010 23:11 |
steve n
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Matt -
Thanks for the very interesting scenario regarding the Thermasan System.
I don't know why, but I totally forgot about our fine Arab friends and their embargo in the mid 70's (one of the first sock-it-to-America episodes).. I was in the Automobile business back then and should certainly have remembered that (and did after you reminded me). It had a disastrous effect on our business also. - I know that it certainly had an effect on the RV business.....Sales going "in the tank" is, I guess, putting it mildly.
I didn't realize that the State & Federal Government (EPA, etc), were having that sort of negative effect on the RV business with their regulations...I thought that, at that time and for the time being, larger pieces of equipment, (truck, RV's, etc) were exempt from most of the regulations. - I do remember the early days of pollution control, the PCV valves, the catalytic converters, etc.
Anyway, thanks for your insight...I appreciated your thought & info.
Steve Nowak
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Re: [GMCnet] Thermasan Waste Distruct System [message #97790 is a reply to message #97789] |
Mon, 30 August 2010 00:09 |
James Hupy
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I remember a Richfield station/auto repair business in my town back in 1956
that I used to hang around. The owner had a 55 chev 150 station wagon w/6
cyl and 3 speed w/ overdrive that consistently got 23 to 25 mpg. Then came
the higher horsepower rigs that got increasingly poor fuel milage, but still
weren't really terrible. Then came the 70's. Instead of getting 13 to 15
mpg, they added the first generation emission controls, AIR pumps,
EGR,s, Closed crankcase ventilation systems, spark retard and different cam
timing. Mileage went down to 8 to 10 mpg.
The tailpipe emissions smelled like rotten eggs and burned your eyes, but
the DEQ and other Regulatory agencies said that the exhaust was cleaner and
much better for the environment. Yeah, right. Lets see, no power, no
mileage, mufflers that rotted off in short order, carb screws with plastic
plugs or caps over them that made them difficult to adjust and tune up costs
went through the roof. Points type ignition systems wouldn't produce enough
spark to light off those lean mixtures. Of course they imposed much more
stringent regulations on imported cars than they required of domestic
produced autos. They adapted to fuel injection systems and electronic
ignition systems that would really get your attention if you pulled off a
spark plug boot when they were running, and they got 30 mpg doing it. Didn't
take long and Detroit was in serious trouble. Couldn't give their stuff away
and couldn't make them run either. It wasn't until the electronic (computer
controlled) engine management systems came along that Detroit recovered from
that regulatory quagmire. But, the air in the Los Angeles Basin finally
began to show improvement. Plug in diagnostics helped tame the tune up
puzzle, but the replacement costs of that electronic stuff is still crazy.
These GMC's were exempt from some of the regulations because, like trucks,
the regulations were not as stringent except for the California equipped 77
& 78 coaches.Where do we go from here?
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:11 PM, fluffyms <fluffyms@juno.com> wrote:
> Matt -
>
> Thanks for the very interesting scenario regarding the Thermasan System.
>
> I don't know why, but I totally forgot about our fine Arab friends and
> their embargo in the mid 70's (one of the first sock-it-to-America
> episodes).. I was in the Automobile business back then and should certainly
> have remembered that (and did after you reminded me). It had a disastrous
> effect on our business also. - I know that it certainly had an effect on
> the RV business.....Sales going "in the tank" is, I guess, putting it
> mildly.
>
> I didn't realize that the State & Federal Government (EPA, etc), were
> having that sort of negative effect on the RV business with their
> regulations...I thought that, at that time and for the time being, larger
> pieces of equipment, (truck, RV's, etc) were exempt from most of the
> regulations. - I do remember the early days of pollution control, the PCV
> valves, the catalytic converters, etc.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your insight...I appreciated your thought & info.
>
> Steve Nowak
>
>
>
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