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MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96774] Sun, 22 August 2010 09:23 Go to next message
sparkienme is currently offline  sparkienme   United States
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I think I read somewhere someone put a grease fitting in the macerator impeller body. My impeller freezes up when it sets for a while and I think a shot of grease on shut down would prevent this.
Anyone have any suggestions ?
Thanks
Mike
Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96781 is a reply to message #96774] Sun, 22 August 2010 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Try a 1/4 cup olive oil as you are dumping. I never close the valve
between the tank and the pump. That will keep the impeller blades from
sticking also.............Terry

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> I think I read somewhere someone put a grease fitting in the macerator impeller body. My impeller  freezes up when it sets for a while and I think a shot of grease on shut down would prevent this.
> Anyone have any suggestions ?
> Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96785 is a reply to message #96774] Sun, 22 August 2010 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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When I bought my new Jabsco mascerator, I stuck my finger in the pump outlet
to see how supple the impeller was and withdrew a very greasy black nasty
lubricant. My guess is that a shot of silicone grease, not dino based,
probably is a good thing. Those impellers look very much like a water pump
for outboard motors, and they don't like petroleum products at all. They
kinda swell up like brake parts do when you wash them in solvent.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:23 AM, mike n karen <sparknme@earthlink.net>wrote:

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> I think I read somewhere someone put a grease fitting in the macerator
> impeller body. My impeller freezes up when it sets for a while and I think
> a shot of grease on shut down would prevent this.
> Anyone have any suggestions ?
> Thanks
> Mike
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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96789 is a reply to message #96785] Sun, 22 August 2010 10:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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James Hupy wrote on Sun, 22 August 2010 10:16

When I bought my new Jabsco mascerator, I stuck my finger in the pump outlet
to see how supple the impeller was and withdrew a very greasy black nasty
lubricant. My guess is that a shot of silicone grease, not dino based,
probably is a good thing. Those impellers look very much like a water pump
for outboard motors, and they don't like petroleum products at all. They
kinda swell up like brake parts do when you wash them in solvent.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403


i don't think that was a "lubricant"!
oh, you did say a "new pump" didn't you.


Fred V
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P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96794 is a reply to message #96789] Sun, 22 August 2010 10:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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I opened the new box and the mascerator was all bright and shiny, and when I
withdrew my nitrile gloved finger from that pump orfice, that same visual
image crossed my mind, too. I wonder if our adversion to changing baby
diapers ever goes away? Inquiring minds would like to know.
Jim Hupy
Salem, OR
78 Royale 403

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:52 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net> wrote:

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> James Hupy wrote on Sun, 22 August 2010 10:16
> > When I bought my new Jabsco mascerator, I stuck my finger in the pump
> outlet
> > to see how supple the impeller was and withdrew a very greasy black nasty
> > lubricant. My guess is that a shot of silicone grease, not dino based,
> > probably is a good thing. Those impellers look very much like a water
> pump
> > for outboard motors, and they don't like petroleum products at all. They
> > kinda swell up like brake parts do when you wash them in solvent.
> > Jim Hupy
> > Salem, Or
> > 78 Royale 403
>
> i don't think that was a "lubricant"!
> oh, you did say a "new pump" didn't you.
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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96800 is a reply to message #96794] Sun, 22 August 2010 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Skinner may have the best suggestion. I used to never close my 12 volt gate. Seems I did not have impeller problems. Last couple of years I been closing it off so the Jabsco does dry out. Now, I think I will go back to Terry's idea. I have a brand new pump in there.
Dan


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Re: MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96817 is a reply to message #96774] Sun, 22 August 2010 15:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When my impeller "froze" the first time I removed and disassembled the pump while silently, to myself, cursing at the %^&$&I% who put something down the toilet that jammed it up. My surprise, nothing was jamming it at all. I reassembled it using silicone plumbers grease and it worked great - for a year or so. Then the problem reoccurred. This time I applied the silicone grease through the outlet hole. Of course you have to drain the system first - unpleasant at best but, fortunately, my system is set up to retain the original dump system.

Finally, I found that using a screwdriver in the slot in the end of the motor and giving it a counterclockwise turn even a small amount is sufficient to allow the pump to run. I'm going to try Terry's method of a quarter cup of olive oil and keep the gate valve open.


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Re: MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #96819 is a reply to message #96817] Sun, 22 August 2010 15:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh yea, that screwdriver slot has got me going every winter, out in Az. Sucker freezes.
Just opened my gate so it should be good and wet inside the pump.
Thanks Terry.
Dan


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Re: MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #97250 is a reply to message #96817] Wed, 25 August 2010 23:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Finally, I found that using a screwdriver in the slot in the end of the motor and giving it a counterclockwise turn even a small amount is sufficient to allow the pump to run.
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I've just completed the installation of the macerator on the GMC.
I wired a DPDT Center off switch so that up would be forward or discharge, center off and down would be reverse.

I am hoping I am being forward thinking and it would help release the pump if anything gets stuck.

Of course, if the impeller is stalled because of dried crud, the reverse most likely won't work. But I am thinking if you open the sludge valve to the Macerator and let the muck get wet for awhile, it may just release itself....

Have not used it yet but its all in place..... I too kept the old system and added a sludge valve just after the "T" to the macerator, JUST IN CASE....



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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #97252 is a reply to message #97250] Wed, 25 August 2010 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terrance Boyd is currently offline  Terrance Boyd   United States
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Larry

There is the possibility if you reverse the macerator you will spin the
shaft inside the impeller. The impeller is rubber,the hole in it has a flat
spot to match the flat on the shaft. I forced mine with a screwdriver. Had
to replace the impeller.JWHTM

Terry

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Larry <slawrence111@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Finally, I found that using a screwdriver in the slot in the end of the
> motor and giving it a counterclockwise turn even a small amount is
> sufficient to allow the pump to run.
> _________________________________________________________
>
>
> I've just completed the installation of the macerator on the GMC.
> I wired a DPDT Center off switch so that up would be forward or discharge,
> center off and down would be reverse.
>
> I am hoping I am being forward thinking and it would help release the pump
> if anything gets stuck.
>
> Of course, if the impeller is stalled because of dried crud, the reverse
> most likely won't work. But I am thinking if you open the sludge valve to
> the Macerator and let the muck get wet for awhile, it may just release
> itself....
>
> Have not used it yet but its all in place..... I too kept the old system
> and added a sludge valve just after the "T" to the macerator, JUST IN
> CASE....
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #97254 is a reply to message #97252] Thu, 26 August 2010 00:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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I second Terry's concern. As the impeller turns, its vanes "lean back" in
the eccentric housing, so that some of the vanes are always in a "wrong way"
/ "locked up" position when you reverse the direction. One might get away
with forcing a new, flexible, impeller backward, but as they age and take a
set, they'll easily break off if turned backward.

Ken H.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Terrance Boyd <newtent@gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry
>
> There is the possibility if you reverse the macerator you will spin the
> shaft inside the impeller. The impeller is rubber,the hole in it has a flat
> spot to match the flat on the shaft. I forced mine with a screwdriver. Had
> to replace the impeller.JWHTM
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> Terry
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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #97331 is a reply to message #97254] Thu, 26 August 2010 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, ok....

I thought I was thinking ahead but I guess I was thinking ahead to get a new poo wheel.

Thanks for the warning, I suppose I need to cripple that option.



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Re: [GMCnet] MACERATOR Grease impeller [message #97395 is a reply to message #97331] Thu, 26 August 2010 21:29 Go to previous message
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Larry C wrote on Thu, 26 August 2010 14:58

Well, ok....

I thought I was thinking ahead but I guess I was thinking ahead to get a new poo wheel.

Thanks for the warning, I suppose I need to cripple that option.





Oh yea Larry. Not good to turn an older impellor the wrong way. I know all about it. Rolling Eyes
Dan


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