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Sun, 15 August 2010 18:17  |
RUN GMC
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Just got the GMC,I think...oops I know I am a really good hubby and father,I have always put my family first and even before other things I have really wanted.I paid on RUN GMC for over a year until ownership,This was because I didnt want my family to go without.My bad habits include buying 6 football tickets maybe twice a year,working long hours and a 30 pack of bud to last the week.
Since I have gotten RUN GMC, I have been working on it trying to get it ready to take to the dealership.I have been coming home about 2hrs later this week each night getting it ready.
I think maybe I have made a BOO BOO by purchasing it without telling her, so that " Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission theory is OUT THE WINDOW".
Let me add I have 6 children and she believes its NO such thing as My or xtra money,I have been telling her it will give us qaulity time together as a family and affordable outings when complete,SHE THINKS IT A MONEY TRAP!
I know alot of you here have WISDOM above my years and this may not be the right place for advice,but I believe it is so I ask:
What do you think is the right thing to do ? I know I can have the final decision in this matter,but I wanna do it RIGHT!
Oh yeah we are not financially in trouble today,but she thinks that its not promised with the economy.
Please do not respond with sarcasm,It wont HELP!
I believe in FAMILY FIRST !
Thanks in advance,
Frank
RUN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
"Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the capability to rebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a major auto/truck manufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better, stronger, faster."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95957 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 18:43  |
Ken Henderson
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Frank,
There are pros and cons to your situation, as to all. Some that come to
mind:
Pro: 1. Your kids will always remember and treasure the time you'll spend
together in a GMC (or anywhere else).
2. Time spent working on the GMC with your kids (probably mostly
with the boys) will be almost as valuable as recreational time.
Con: 1. The GMC will be TIGHT living quarters for 8 of you.
2. The GMC WILL consume more money and time than you have any idea
now.
You and SHE must agree on the purchase and its use or it will be a constant
irritant.
The phrase " get it ready to take to the dealership" confuses me. If it
means you have to take it to a shop for repairs, now or in the future, you
probably don't need it, because of both the cost and the ability to "survive
on the road".
JMHO after 51 years with one wife (but only 2 surviving kids), 60+ years
with RV's, and 12+ years with a GMC.
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven w/Cad500/Howell EFI+ & EBL
www.gmcwipersetc.com
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Just got the GMC,I think...oops...
> What do you think is the right thing to do ? I know I can have the final
> decision in this matter,but I wanna do it RIGHT!
> ...
> I believe in FAMILY FIRST !
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>
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| Re: Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95959 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 18:54 |
jknezek
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Good luck with this one. Kind of agree with the wife that owning an expensive toy like a motorhome or boat isn't something you do without talking to each other.
That being said, there is some merit to the argument, especially in a family of 6 kids, that a motorhome can be a way to have affordable family vacations. You bring your own food, huge savings over eating out, your own sleeping arrangements, especially with 6 kids (could mean 2 hotel rooms), and the seat cost per mile, even at 8 mpg, isn't too bad. Especially compared to 8 airline tickets to anywhere. I think I'd stick with pointing out the cost savings and mock up the costs of a couple typical vacations for your family and compare it to a mock up vacation in the gmc.
Better leave off the idea that the GMC actually IS a moneypit like your wife suggests. All boys toys like a boat, motorhome, classic car, golf, fishing, etc are expensive to maintain. That's the thing about hobbies. They cost a lot and you have to believe it will bring you more joy than it costs.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95960 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 18:57 |
Dennis S
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Frank,
My opinions...
With 6 childern and a wife -- she's right, you should not have bought it without her buy-in.
Start with a sincere apology. Don't screw it up with "but I thought" blah blah blah
Then open a dialogue about why you thought a motorhome would be good for your family.
It will cost more than think -- so be honest about your budgeted cost to get it on the road.
Commit to doing al the lowest cost items first in order to let the family get acquanted with the coach.
Consider letting the children name the coach -- so it becomes a member of the family.
If the cost to put it back on the road by some set dead line is not met -- commit to selling it and trying to reduce your loss.
DO NOT buy tires and wheels until you are very nearly ready to put it on the road (unless you find an extraordinary deal on 16 inch wheels) --you don't need tires to age out while you restore the interior
If you have any doubts about your own assessment of the coaches condition contact someone on the Black list and ask for help in evaluating the coach -- it has been sitting low to the ground for a long time and frame rust could be an issue.
Good luck,
and remember your family is more important than being right about the GMC.
Dennis Sexton
73 PD 230
Germantown, TN
USA
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95962 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 19:09 |
GMC Cruse
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Frank:
You are right on with the "quality family time" and in my book, you are still putting family first by getting the GMC so you can have family trips.
I'm the oldest of 5 kids and it sounds like my parent's situation was similar to yours. When I was 7 and again when I was 17, they took us five kids on cross country trips to California towing a small camping trailer. To this day, my siblings and I say those were some of the best times we had growing up. Well, maybe except for my youngest brother who accidently got left at a gas station when my parents forgot to count heads after a gas stop in Wyoming on the second trip. lol.
I bought my GMC last summer in part to kind of repay my parents for the two earlier trips. They are in their 80's and wanted to go from Michigan to California to be with my youngest brother on his 50th birthday. My parents, two of my brothers and I piled into the GMC and went to California. We all enjoyed the quality family time of this trip also and will fondly be talking about it for years to come.
If you can get your wife to take that first family trip in the GMC, I'm sure she will start planning the next trip soon afterwards.
Mike K.
'75 PB
Southeast Michigan
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95966 is a reply to message #95959] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 19:21 |
Kimberlea Weeks
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More joy than it can bring. We have a 3 year old granddaughter and she
things our GMC is the cat's meow!!!! Grandma lived in it for one summer and
she got to visit. (even when it was flooding with water.....which grandma
with a little help with other campers solved without grandpa's assistant
which was three hours away and we definitely did not want to alarm him of
the parquet floor a float in the kitchen. Grandma took care of it, and you
know, she became the new GMCMI Convention Manager!) that is right....I guess
the Lord gives us a situation and you decide how to accomplish the task. And
wallla, a miracle comes true and you are given an opportunity in life you
didn't exactly expect, but now you treasure and look forward to many
friendships and memories.
With God's blessings....have a great evening!
Salmon, rice, fresh corn on the cob and white wine.....what more do you
need!!!!!
As our three old granddaughter says, "Grandpa and Grandpa's motorhome
rocks!"(ok, not the literal rocking either boys!)
kim
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:54 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.).
Good luck with this one. Kind of agree with the wife that owning an
expensive toy like a motorhome or boat isn't something you do without
talking to each other.
That being said, there is some merit to the argument, especially in a family
of 6 kids, that a motorhome can be a way to have affordable family
vacations. You bring your own food, huge savings over eating out, your own
sleeping arrangements, especially with 6 kids (could mean 2 hotel rooms),
and the seat cost per mile, even at 8 mpg, isn't too bad. Especially
compared to 8 airline tickets to anywhere. I think I'd stick with pointing
out the cost savings and mock up the costs of a couple typical vacations for
your family and compare it to a mock up vacation in the gmc.
Better leave off the idea that the GMC actually IS a moneypit like your wife
suggests. All boys toys like a boat, motorhome, classic car, golf, fishing,
etc are expensive to maintain. That's the thing about hobbies. They cost a
lot and you have to believe it will bring you more joy than it costs.
--
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95968 is a reply to message #95960] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 19:36 |
gmcrv1
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Frank,
As you can see, you have been given some sound advice. I would go with the
apology and then move on - cautiously.
I do hope you are somewhat mechanically inclined - if not - you will be!
(lol)
Not knowing how soon you want to get this Coach on the road and how much $$$
you have available to get it in that condition leaves some variables.
I would stress the family closeness and the camaraderie you will experience
from these great GMC clubs and organizations and individuals. I too am a
newbie and have been working as time permits trying to get my GMC
confidently road worthy. If you have been following this net you will see
that even the best prepared coaches can brake down. Everything from an AC
failure, a tire mishap or air bag even an engine can have a catastrophic
failure.
My concerns would mostly be with the family. Breaking down in a GMC can
actually be fun - as long as the AC is blowing cold and everyone understands
that it is just a temporary setback - sometimes an affordable repair and
sometimes not quite so affordable. There are those that carry a small
arsenal of tools and parts and others that carry a cell phone and an
American Express card! Just be prepared. Keep the Black List handy and
explain it's concept with your wife.
When I purchased mine a while back, my SO (significant other) went through
it - saw that it needed work and then said she wanted to drive it around the
storage lot. Brought it home a couple of months later.
All it takes is time and money. If you have the time and reasonable skills
- you can save some money, but, parts is parts and some expenses are
unavoidable.
Wish you luck.
Make it fun for everyone.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oaklnand, TN
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:57 PM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Frank,
>
> My opinions...
>
> With 6 childern and a wife -- she's right, you should not have bought it
> without her buy-in.
>
> Start with a sincere apology. Don't screw it up with "but I thought" blah
> blah blah
>
> Then open a dialogue about why you thought a motorhome would be good for
> your family.
>
> It will cost more than think -- so be honest about your budgeted cost to
> get it on the road.
> Commit to doing al the lowest cost items first in order to let the family
> get acquanted with the coach.
> Consider letting the children name the coach -- so it becomes a member of
> the family.
> If the cost to put it back on the road by some set dead line -- commit to
> selling it and trying to reduce your loss.
> DO NOT buy tires and wheels until you are very nearly ready to put it on
> the road (unless you find an extraordinary dea on 16 inch wheels) --you
> don't need tires to age out while you restore the interior
>
> If you have any doubts about your own assessment of the coaches condition
> contact someone on the Black list and ak for help in evaluating the coach --
> it has been sitting low to the ground for a long time and frame rust could
> be an issue.
>
> Good luck,
> and remember your family is more important than being right about the GMC.
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 PD 230
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 6:17 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.).
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> Just got the GMC,I think...oops I know I am a really good hubby and
> father,I
> ave always put my family first and even before other things I have really
> anted.I paid on RUN GMC for over a year until ownership,This was because I
> idnt want my family to go without.My bad habits include buying 6 football
> ickets maybe twice a year,working long hours and a 30 pack of bud to last
> the
> eek.
> Since I have gotten RUN GMC, I have been working on it trying to get it
> ready to
> ake to the dealership.I have been coming home about 2hrs later this week
> each
> ight getting it ready.
> I think maybe I have made a BOO BOO by purchasing it without telling her,
> so
> hat " Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission theory is OUT THE
> INDOW".
> Let me add I have 6 children and she believes its NO such thing as My or
> xtra
> oney,I have been telling her it will give us qaulity time together as a
> family
> nd affordable outings when complete,SHE THINKS IT A MONEY TRAP!
> I know alot of you here have WISDOM above my years and this may not be the
> right
> lace for advice,but I believe it is so I ask:
> What do you think is the right thing to do ? I know I can have the final
> ecision in this matter,but I wanna do it RIGHT!
>
> h yeah we are not financially in trouble today,but she thinks that its not
> romised with the economy.
> Please do not respond with sarcasm,It wont HELP!
> I believe in FAMILY FIRST !
> Thanks in advance,
> Frank
>
> -
>
> UN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
> Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the
> capability to
> ebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a major auto/truck
> anufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better, stronger, faster."
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| Re: Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95971 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 19:59 |
RUN GMC
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As I sit here with Bud (weiser) after a half day of work ,waiting for my fantasy football draft,One of many of my non-expensive hobbies "FREE" I am really greatful of the many positive responses I am recieving.
The wife and kids are out at a college going away party,getting some me time with my GMC Brethren and sisteren (is that a word)?
I am thinking of setting a budget(Agreeable with the wife) to get it road worthy and taking that first trip before (excuse the expression)Doing the MTV "Pimp My Ride" version to it.
After all a "HAPPY WIFE = a HAPPY LIFE"! (I believe that one with all my heart).
Besides who wants to be alone in a 26' DOGHOUSE ????
DON'T ANSWER!
Frank
FYI: When I mentioned the dealership,Its because my field of work is in Automobile Sales and I have the whole shop just as EXCITED as me....."The Power of that RED,WHITE,and BLUE....BUDWEISER!
RUN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
"Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the capability to rebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a major auto/truck manufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better, stronger, faster."
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| Re: Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95974 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 20:11 |
Chr$
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The clean bed and bathroom, plus being able to shower was enough to convince my wife, but I told her before I decided to buy it...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
2010 Nomad 24 Ft TT 390W PV W/MPPT, EV4010 and custom cargo door.
Photosite: Chrisc GMC:"It has Begun" TT: "The Other Woman"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95976 is a reply to message #95971] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 20:21 |
gmcrv1
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Frank,
You're right about being alone in a 26' footer - but sounds like you're
going to have a coach full!
As Dennis mentioned, let the kids name the coach and then depending on their
ages and abilities see who is interested in helping out. There's always
cleaning to be done. Just try to make everything fun and don't give them
overwhelming task - a little at a time and tasks that they can complete. Do
you have the built in vacuum? That might be fun for the girls.
Then there is keeping the wife happy. If you were able to conceal that you
purchased the GMC in the first place, then you may want to use those same
skills while accumulating parts. But, once there is some kind of comfort
level (sooner rather then later), I would let her know the cost of running
and maintaining the coach vs the fun of motoring as a family and cost
savings while traveling. Not to mention how much more comfortable it will
be traveling in a 26 motor home then the family cruiser. Most GMC floor
plans can seat 6 or more safely not counting the pilot & co-pilot.
Should be fun.
Results may vary - your results may be different.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:59 PM, Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
> As I sit here with Bud (weiser) after a half day of work ,waiting for my
> fantasy football draft,One of many of my non-expensive hobbies "FREE" I am
> really greatful of the many positive responses I am recieving.
>
> The wife and kids are out at a college going away party,getting some me
> time with my GMC Brethren and sisteren (is that a word)?
>
> I am thinking of setting a budget(Agreeable with the wife) to get it road
> worthy and taking that first trip before (excuse the expression)Doing the
> MTV "Pimp My Ride" version to it.
>
> After all a "HAPPY WIFE = a HAPPY LIFE"! (I believe that one with all my
> heart).
>
> Besides who wants to be alone in a 26' DOGHOUSE ????
> DON'T ANSWER!
>
> Frank
>
> FYI: When I mentioned the dealership,Its because my field of work is in
> Automobile Sales and I have the whole shop just as EXCITED as me....."The
> Power of that RED,WHITE,and BLUE....BUDWEISER!
> --
>
>
> RUN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
> "Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the
> capability to rebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a major
> auto/truck manufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better, stronger, faster."
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95979 is a reply to message #95974] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 20:25 |
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I had a little head start, we sold the boat first.
I did have to convince her to spend more money than we had planned, but
the decision was precipitated by watching a few tragedies take people we
know far too early. That brought us to the conclusion, "If we don't
live now, when will we?"
We have a 1 year old and a dog. Going anywhere with both was a pain,
now we even do our shopping trips in our coach because it has a fridge,
changing table, playpen, bathroom, kitchen, etc. We make a day of it
even if we're not really going anywhere.
I'm forwarding your original email to my wife without showing her any of
the responses you've got. We'll see what she says..
Desmond
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1977 GMC ex-Palm Beach, 26-3
Treasure Island, CA
KC6VHG, KAG0675 "980"
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95984 is a reply to message #95979] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 21:14 |
RUN GMC
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OK,Bad word BOAT!
Crucify me now! I am currently paying a boat off,Don't need a corvette can take one weeks on end for FREE! Maybe I am going through something right now!
I send my family on vacations twice a year,but never GO because I am a workaholic,I average 60+ hrs weekly.We have owned a Disney Timeshare for the last 10 years,I have only been once.We have a Timeshare in Sandwich,Ma I go for two days a year,never taking more than two days off in a row,for FEAR I may miss a deal!
I have become the BUTT of jokes at work for working so much,but most importantly I have missed my kids vacations and functions that's something I know I will never get back. I am tired of being FRUGAL, I have been frugal all my life.
I am tired of saving....I want something for ME! I have been BLESSED truly!
But yet I am scared to get TWO things I really want that's family oriented.
Ready for ME-TIME!
| 980 wrote on Sun, 15 August 2010 21:25 |
I had a little head start, we sold the boat first.
I did have to convince her to spend more money than we had planned, but
the decision was precipitated by watching a few tragedies take people we
know far too early. That brought us to the conclusion, "If we don't
live now, when will we?"
We have a 1 year old and a dog. Going anywhere with both was a pain,
now we even do our shopping trips in our coach because it has a fridge,
changing table, playpen, bathroom, kitchen, etc. We make a day of it
even if we're not really going anywhere.
I'm forwarding your original email to my wife without showing her any of
the responses you've got. We'll see what she says..
Desmond
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1977 GMC ex-Palm Beach, 26-3
Treasure Island, CA
KC6VHG, KAG0675 "980"
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RUN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
"Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the capability to rebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a major auto/truck manufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better, stronger, faster."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95987 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 21:28 |
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ljdavick
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I wish we had bought ours years ago when our 15 year old daughter was
little.
First come clean and take your lumps. Show her the coach - it's
amazing how supportive our loved ones are when they see our dreams
realized.
Next let her read some the great posts from this list. Your line about
family time is true.
You love her. Trust her.
Larry Davick
Ljdavick at comcast.net
On Aug 15, 2010, at 4:17 PM, Frank Young <Daddyx5@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>
> Just got the GMC,I think...oops I know I am a really good hubby and
> father,I have always put my family first and even before other
> things I have really wanted.I paid on RUN GMC for over a year until
> ownership,This was because I didnt want my family to go without.My
> bad habits include buying 6 football tickets maybe twice a
> year,working long hours and a 30 pack of bud to last the week.
>
> Since I have gotten RUN GMC, I have been working on it trying to get
> it ready to take to the dealership.I have been coming home about
> 2hrs later this week each night getting it ready.
>
> I think maybe I have made a BOO BOO by purchasing it without telling
> her, so that " Its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission
> theory is OUT THE WINDOW".
>
> Let me add I have 6 children and she believes its NO such thing as
> My or xtra money,I have been telling her it will give us qaulity
> time together as a family and affordable outings when complete,SHE
> THINKS IT A MONEY TRAP!
>
> I know alot of you here have WISDOM above my years and this may not
> be the right place for advice,but I believe it is so I ask:
>
> What do you think is the right thing to do ? I know I can have the
> final decision in this matter,but I wanna do it RIGHT!
>
>
> Oh yeah we are not financially in trouble today,but she thinks that
> its not promised with the economy.
>
> Please do not respond with sarcasm,It wont HELP!
>
> I believe in FAMILY FIRST !
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Frank
>
>
> --
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>
> RUN GMC a 1978 GMC ELEGANZA II.
> "Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the technology. We have the
> capability to rebuild the world's only complete motorhome built by a
> major auto/truck manufacturer RUN GMC will be that rv; Better,
> stronger, faster."
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95991 is a reply to message #95984] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 21:28 |
Dennis S
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Frank
I'm guessing that If she doesn't know about the boat we will not hear back from you!
Seriously -- you say you are not mechanical, the GMC you have bought has been sitting outside for nine years, and it is stored on dirt. Please have the frame inspected before you get too much further into this. The coach looks ok in the photos but it's the hidden damage and wear that is so expensive.
And again DO NOT buy new tires before you are a lot further along on the restoration. GMC tires may age out in five years -- if it is two years before you are on the road you have lost 40%
of the life.
Just trying to help!
Dennis S
73 PD 230
Germantown, TN
Dennis S
73 Painted Desert 230
Memphis TN Metro
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95992 is a reply to message #95950] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 22:04 |
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Frank,
This is the first time I've witnessed a GMCnet counseling session.
I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for you. I'll give you what
strikes me after reading some of your responses and those of others.
I was married for 33 years to my former wife. She wasn't the type that
enjoyed camping or allowing me to have fun. I figured that out about year 11
of our marriage.
One of the things I did during those years was buy stuff I wanted and then
make up some grand story as to how I came by the stuff. A friend of mine did
the same except his response was: "I've had it for a long time."
Then thing straightened out for me and I married someone that liked
traveling, doesn't mind to share the driving chore and actually enjoys the
camping experience in a motorhome. Her married daughter and son-in-law enjoy
tenting.
Martha likes the idea of sleeping in our own bed, using our own bathroom,
etc. I do, too. We also enjoy traveling by motorhome instead of by car.
Before we got the GMC we talked about it and looked together.
The point here is that I felt a 1000% better about an honest experience
instead of the previous experience.
Now, if your wife would enjoy the motorhome, I agree. Apologize and be
honest and up front from her on. However, not all wives like that idea. My
wife doesn't understand them but they do exist.
In your situation I'd say traveling in a GMC would be superior to any van
experience.
The cost? Don't kid yourself. Prepare to shell out money. Something is
always waiting to be repaired. Perhaps you both should agree to spending no
more than a fixed amount per year. Then, fix things in the proper order with
safety being first, running well being second, being comfortable third, and
looking good being last.
By the way, my wife and I tried to tackle all of these simultaneously in our
first year of ownership. The amount we spent was amazing. The joy we had was
also amazing.
Life is about making good memories. No one ever came to the end of life
saying: "I wish I had spent more time at work." In your case, selling one
more car will be something you won't value years from now. I think it's time
you spend less time at work and more time with family. You don't have many
years left.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
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| Re: [GMCnet] Needs some HELP! (Ladies PLEASE give insight.). [message #95993 is a reply to message #95979] |
Sun, 15 August 2010 22:52 |
pete lyons
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Frank,
The only thing i bring home without discussing with the wife are
motorcycles, and I usually end matching dollar for dollar in something she
wants.
You're the one who knows your family situation better than anyone else, so
the only thing myself or anyone else can do here is share our life
experiences.
Here's my two cents worth:
My wife and I only have one opportunity to leave a legacy for our children.
We only have one opportunity to develop a relationship with them that when
they are older, they will see us not out of duty, but out of devotion.
The GMC is an investment, not in the coach itself, but in your family. Just
like the credit card commercials, the experiences you are about to have are
priceless.
Is it a money pit? absolutely not. Put yourself on a budget. I'm not
fortunate to have thousands of dollars to dump into this thing, but by
making wise choices I manage to put up to $1500 a year into the coach. I
went overboard by about $2500 one year, but that was doing a complete
remodel and got carried away. You have to put money into something, so the
question is what are you putting your money into? You can't take it with
you, so why not invest in your family? There is no greater return on your
investment!
A Disney vacation for a family of 4 is around $5,000 and only last 7 days.
I've spent $20,000 the last 7 years (including the purchase of the coach)
and I wouldn't change a thing, and neither would the family.
We've broke down many times. We still have occasional problems. The lessons
learned are invaluable. My kids have learned that almost every situation can
be overcome with a little effort. They've learned that even in the worst
situations, we're still together as a family. They've learned to be content
in the face of disappointment. I've learned a new level of patience and self
control. It's in the tough times that we're called to show our strength. The
family looks to us father's for strength and guidance, and that sometimes it
takes tough situations for us to flex our muscles. They've also learned that
sooner or later, we WILL get there.
My children are also learning not to be afraid to do things they've never
done before. Most of the repairs I've done to the coach are things I've
never done before, and they're right there with me learning. I just spent
the last 6 nights underneath the coach in 100degree heat put a an exhaust
system on, and both of my children were there with me. Whether it was
handing me tools or just making sure I had a fresh glass of iced tea, they
were doing their part to help.
Ever since we bought the coach, the whole family has been involved. We named
it Optimus Prime because of the transformation it went through one summer.
My son was 12 when he installed the new sub floor. He picked out the new
dash colors. The wife picked out the new upholstery and flooring.
We've become a team. We refer to ourselves as the "Lyons Team". We go
through it together thick and thin. We've created a family identity that I
know that my children will carry on into their families. My son is already
looking forward to driving the coach.
Now for the practical advice:
1. Buy a $79 towing plan from camping world or someone else. First year we
owned the coach, we only payed gas one way. If you do break down, take the
stress out of the trip for the family by knowing help is only a phone call
away.
2. Find someplace CLOSE to home for camping. If you can find a place with a
swimming pool it just makes it a bonus. We've done some longer trips, only
to realize that at our kid's age, time on the road was just less time
camping.
3. Involve EVERYONE in EVERY decision concerning the coach. Sure, you have
the last word, but sometimes people just want to be heard. the more involved
they are, the more they will feel a part of the coach.
4. Spend the money on things that make camping fun. Go to walmart and let
everyone pick out their camp chairs. Let them get their marshmallow sticks,
flashlights, etc.
5. pack board games that you can play on rainy days.
6. There are a many safety things that need to be addressed first. We all
have our own list, and pick the things that pertain to your coach first.
7. Always remember that nothing is greater than your marriage, and above all
the biggest legacy you can leave for you children is how you and your wife
can overcome conflict and be in unity.
I hope your coach brings the joy to your family that ours has.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Desmond's GMC <980@opg.org> wrote:
> I had a little head start, we sold the boat first.
>
> I did have to convince her to spend more money than we had planned, but
> the decision was precipitated by watching a few tragedies take people we
> know far too early. That brought us to the conclusion, "If we don't
> live now, when will we?"
>
> We have a 1 year old and a dog. Going anywhere with both was a pain,
> now we even do our shopping trips in our coach because it has a fridge,
> changing table, playpen, bathroom, kitchen, etc. We make a day of it
> even if we're not really going anywhere.
>
> I'm forwarding your original email to my wife without showing her any of
> the responses you've got. We'll see what she says..
>
> Desmond
>
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> Treasure Island, CA
> KC6VHG, KAG0675 "980"
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