| Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94310] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 11:07  |
gbarrow2
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Wayne and Lisa,
I hope you don't mind me hanging your laundry in public but perhaps we will receive some input from others to help deal with minor issues and possibly order parts before the coach gets to New York.
The coach is running great- No Problems.
I left MGM-GMC last Tuesday evening about 7:30. New BFG Commercial TA's inflated to 65 lbs all around.
I never hear the Electro Level pumps run but the bags stay inflated with no leak down overnight. So that system is ok.
Because your engine is new and the coach is new to me I am constantly watching the oil pressure and engine temp.
Stock oil pressure gauge reads steady on the 3/4 mark.
Stock water temp gauge stays on the 1/4 mark until we pull a long hill then it will rise to 1/2.
I have checked the temps at the thermostat housing, radiator cap, and various other spots with a infra-red thermometer. Nothing reads over 180*. I have seen no additional coolant in the expansion tank so the engine is not getting hot enough to overcome the radiator cap pressure.
The fan clutch operates normally on startup but I was concerned that it wasn't kicking in under load because I hadn't heard it.
Outside temps have been less than 90* I finally heard the clutch engage on a hill north of Klamath Falls,Ore. I have heard it a couple of times since; so it is working properly.
I check wheel temp when I get gas (which is often) by touching each one with my hand. None have been hot yet.
I also check the oil often. I have added 2 quarts in 1500 miles.
After leaving Miguels I headed over the Grapevine on I-5 toward San Leandro to pick up my wife.
Northbound the Grape vine starts out with six miles of 6% up hill. Temp never went above the 1/2 mark.
Below 50 mph I manually shifted to 2nd-was able to maintain 40 to 45 without WOT and no lugging. I'm not sure it is accurate but the vac gauge stayed above 10 inches.
Cruising at 60 to 65 on level road the vac gauge reads about 18 inches.
I spent the first night among the Newells and other high priced coaches in the parking lot at Harris Ranch, a well known spot by California RV travelers. Your "little" blue coach fit right in with the high dollar coaches. I was last in- after mid night- and first out.
I have been checking out the house systems as necessary while under way.
Miguel spent about an hour working on the water heater before I left his shop. Finally got it to ignite. I didn't need hot water so I turned it off. Turned it back on this a.m. to check it out. It lit right up and produced hot water in about 20 minutes. He also worked on the radio for me. It doesn't work; Gets power to it but won't turn on. Didn't make sense to have him chase that.
The house water system works well with plenty of pressure. If left on the pump doesn't cycle unless a valve is opened. So, there are no leaks in the system.
I have seen no oil, tranny fluid or engine coolant leaks under the coach.
The toilet is a Thetford Aqua Magic Aruroa. Looks good but doesn't hold water.The only problem with that is that the water sealis needed to prevent holding tank odor from rising into the coach.
I have tried cleaning the valve seal-I can't find any thing that should prevent the blade from sealing. The pedal and blade move freely but it just doesn't seal.
I'm sure the seal is easily replaceable but requires dismantling the toilet. Not a job I want to do on the road.
Maybe some one will have a suggestion that I can try. That is assuming that any one is still reading this.
When I first looked down through the toilet I was surprised to find the black tank dry and clean.
So we implemented the Rick Denny "no poop" in the coach rule.
I plan to deliver the coach with the tanks clean, empty and dry.
I pumped the fresh water tank into the black and gray tanks so I could check the macerator and dump valves.
That's when I discovered the 2nd minor issue. There are 2 small leaks in the sewer system. One is at the rubber reducer fitting that connects the drain line to the macerator. I tried tightening the clamps. Hard to do without ramps or jacks.
The other minor leak is on the downstream side of dump valve on the black tank flange. It has been repaired before.
I emptied the tanks ( the macerator works fine ) but he switch is under the coach near the dump valves; requires you to get down on your knees and look under the coach to activate it.
I bought a holding tank repair kit and and tried to fix the leak while at the KOA in Klamath Falls, Ore. It is difficult without being able to get the coach higher off the ground.I made it better but there is still a small drip.
That's why I want to deliver the coach dry and empty. It will be easy for you to repair.
The system is still operable. It is just a matter of leaving the valves closed until ready to dump. Then open the valves and activate the macerator. Both leaks are downstream from the valves and are very minor. There is no drip with the valves closed.
I hooked the coach to city water system once just to check for leaks. It didn't leak and none of the fixtures drip under pressure.
I filled the fresh water tank and treated it with bleach to sanitize it. I have since drained the bleach water, refilled and treated with baking soda. I will flush the fresh water system and the holding tanks few more times a few more times before we get to New York. So everything should be ready to go for you.
This A.M. I discovered that the furnace works fine. It got a little chilly overnight (some where in the 40's). Reset the thermostat and the furnace fired right up and ran till I shut it down.
Two issues that you may want to deal with sooner rather than later:
The door latch only catches on the first stop. The strike plate pin is worn out. Not a safety problem but an irritant.
I had the same problem with my door. I replaced the strike plate with one from Bert and Faye Curtis. Now my door closes easily and latches properly.
The other issue is the retactable door step. It doesn't work and hangs at a steep angle. It will be easy to slip and fall if you try to use it. And it hangs out far enough and low enough that you must be careful not to hang it up on the curb when parking on the street. I have secured it up with a bungee cord to keep it out of the way.
You may want to consider changing to a Ragusa step.
Oh, and by the way, we're having a great time, now at the West Glacier KOA Outside Glacier National Park, headed for Great Falls, Montana and then down to Yellowstone.
Gene Barrow
Lake Almanor, Ca.
1976 Palm Beach
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| Re: Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94347 is a reply to message #94310] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 16:53  |
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mike miller
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Nice combined coach evaluation and trip report!
| gbarrow wrote on Mon, 02 August 2010 09:07 |
... The toilet is a Thetford Aqua Magic Aruroa. Looks good but doesn't hold water.The only problem with that is that the water sealis needed to prevent holding tank odor from rising into the coach.
I have tried cleaning the valve seal-I can't find any thing that should prevent the blade from sealing. The pedal and blade move freely but it just doesn't seal.
I'm sure the seal is easily replaceable but requires dismantling the toilet. Not a job I want to do on the road.
Maybe some one will have a suggestion that I can try. That is assuming that any one is still reading this. ...
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You are probably correct that the toilet seals will need replacing, but I have had good luck with olive oil to lube the seals. (I have been told that other oils will damage the seals.) They MIGHT seal better when lubed.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94359 is a reply to message #94357] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 18:44 |
Smitty52
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Thanks Gene,
Glad to hear the coach is running great. I will look into getting the latch plate. Let me digest the rest again and will look for comments by others.
We appreciate your time testing everything for us. Hopefully, you are having a good time despite the minor issues.
Take care and see you soon.
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: [GMCnet] food in New York -- off topic [message #94383 is a reply to message #94367] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 21:35 |
Tim Conway
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On Aug 2, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Richard wrote:
> We love to eat so I found this list of options.
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> http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/721266?
> tag=footer_recommendation;board_discussion_module_small
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> Any other 'must try restaurants' from you East Coasters?
Lots of suggestions from some serious gourmands there, Bukzin. I've
actually eaten at two of those, Patsy's with excellent coal oven
pizza, and Katz's for pastrami. Lately I've read some think Katz's
has been going downhill, at least for the pastrami, hot dogs are
still highly recommended though.
I've seen excellent reviews of Eleven Madison Park (aka EMP). My must
try is Peter Luger's across the bridge in Brooklyn. Are you going
anywhere else in the area besides Manhattan?
I can't afford to eat at these restaurants or fix my GMC, but I sure
like reading about others GMCing and fine dining, LOL.
Tim Conway
LI NY 78 PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] food in New York -- off topic [message #94389 is a reply to message #94367] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 22:03 |
gmcrv1
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Carnegie Deli has the name for great sandwiches. But there is another
really good NY deli named Katz's on Houston St. NYers pronounce it "how
stun" street - do not ask for Houston St. they will send you to the airport!
There are two great pizza parlors in Brooklyn, if you get that far. They
fight over who started making the first pizzas in the US. The names escape
me but you can probably google Original Brooklyn pizza. These guys are good
- no great! they will toss the pizza dough as they work it to another
employee at the other side of the restaurant.
There are some great places to eat - depends on which end of the spectrum
you want to feast on $ or $$$$$.
My brother and I used to take the bus for 17cents to watch the TWA Super G
Constellations land at EWR along with the DC3's, DC7's and if you were
really lucky an American 707 Astrojet! Allegany, Mohawk, Braniff, Eastern,
Pan Am, Capitol and their Vickers Viscount...Then hop the bus for another
18cents and go into the city.
Back in the ___.
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:
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> We too am headed to New York soon, can't wait!
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> (instead of the GMC coach we'll be on United coach, boo hoo)
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> We love to eat so I found this list of options.
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> http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/721266?tag=footer_recommendation;board_discussion_module_small
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> Any other 'must try restaurants' from you East Coasters?
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> --
> Bukzin
> 1977 Palm Beach
> Chico California
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| Re: [GMCnet] food in New York -- off topic [message #94400 is a reply to message #94383] |
Mon, 02 August 2010 22:39 |
gmcrv1
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Tim,
I forgot all about Peter Luger'! The best! Probably like you - can't
afford to eat there and upfit a GMC.
That's why there is always Nathan's! Which I buy 5 pounds at a time at the
Costco in Memphis...while I look at batteries for the GMC...
Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Tim Conway <mactac735@mac.com> wrote:
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> On Aug 2, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Richard wrote:
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> > We love to eat so I found this list of options.
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> > http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/721266?
> > tag=footer_recommendation;board_discussion_module_small
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> > Any other 'must try restaurants' from you East Coasters?
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> Lots of suggestions from some serious gourmands there, Bukzin. I've
> actually eaten at two of those, Patsy's with excellent coal oven
> pizza, and Katz's for pastrami. Lately I've read some think Katz's
> has been going downhill, at least for the pastrami, hot dogs are
> still highly recommended though.
>
> I've seen excellent reviews of Eleven Madison Park (aka EMP). My must
> try is Peter Luger's across the bridge in Brooklyn. Are you going
> anywhere else in the area besides Manhattan?
>
> I can't afford to eat at these restaurants or fix my GMC, but I sure
> like reading about others GMCing and fine dining, LOL.
>
> Tim Conway
> LI NY 78 PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94448 is a reply to message #94360] |
Tue, 03 August 2010 10:12 |
Bob de Kruyff
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""Quick update. Talked with Faye and the striker plate is on the way. It should be here when you get here.""
Be cautious when you remove the screws holding the plate on--many times the nuts on the backside will fall of and you won't be able to get to them easily--depending on the particulars of your coach.
Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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| Re: Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94495 is a reply to message #94310] |
Tue, 03 August 2010 16:24 |
Luvn737s
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Enjoy the drive!
My family had tossed around names like "Big Blue" and "Papa Smurf", but I'll bet you can come up with some better ones.
Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
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| Re: Escape to New York- Trip report [message #94512 is a reply to message #94495] |
Tue, 03 August 2010 18:25 |
Smitty52
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Being the proud owner of 2 AMC's at the moment I can assure you that we will not refer to the coach as Wayne's World. I have owned 27 AMC's over the years and never a Pacer. I must admit though that we almost bought a new Pacer in 76 from the AMC dealer in Ishpeming Michigan while stationed at KI Sawyer AFB. Family size dictated a Matador wagon instead.
Although I do like the sound of papa smurf 
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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