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Dennis S is currently offline  Dennis S   United States
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When considering personnel safety while traveling in our GMC's -- if you have considered a taser -- please read on. Reprinted here with the permission of the author, PaducahMichael, from a fly fishing forum on which I participate.

QUOTE Fishing with my wife is one of my great pleasures. But she fishes more slowly (she says more thoroughly) than I do and often gets tired even faster than I do. That means she is often alone on the stream or hiking back to the car. And even after she has reached the car she's still alone. She's a pretty tough cookie for 66 years old, but I worry about her being by herself if some idiot comes along....

So I decided to get her something for self defense. I can't get her a hand gun. She'd shoot to kill, and with her Army training, she'd probably hit the target. Besides, you can get arrested for carrying in the National Parks.

Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest. What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety....??

WAY TOO COOL! Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home.

I loaded two AAA batteries in the darn thing and pushed the button. Nothing!

I was disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against a metal surface at the same time; I'd get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs. AWESOME!!!

Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Shorty what that burned spot is on the face of her microwave.

Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it couldn't be all that bad with only two triple-A batteries, right?

There I sat in my recliner, my cat Prissy looking on intently (trusting little soul) while I was reading the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving target.

I must admit I thought about zapping Prissy (for a fraction of a second) and thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat. But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would work as advertised. Am I wrong?

So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a t-shirt with my glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, and taser in another.

The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of water.

Any burst longer than three seconds would be wasting the batteries. All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5 ' long, less than 3/4 inch in circumference; pretty cute really and (loaded with two itsy, bitsy triple-A batteries) thinking to myself, 'no possible way!'

What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best...?

I'm sitting there alone, Prissy looking on with her head cocked to one side as to say, 'don't do it dipshit,'and I'm reasoning that a one second burst from such a tiny little ole thing couldn't hurt all that bad. I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button, and . . .

HOLY MOTHER . .WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION . . WHAT THE HELL !!!

I'm pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in the recliner, then body slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again.

I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my eyes, body soaking wet, both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in the oddest position, and tingling in my legs.

The cat was making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a picture frame hanging above the fireplace, obviously in an attempt to avoid getting slammed by my body flopping all over the living room.

Note: If you ever feel compelled to 'mug' yourself with a taser, one note of caution: there is no such thing as a one second burst when you zap yourself! You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing about on the floor. A three second burst would be considered conservative?

SON-OF-A-Gun, THAT HURT LIKE HELL !!!

A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that point), I collected my wits (what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape. My bent glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace.

The recliner was upside down and about 8 feet or so from where it originally was.

My triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching.

My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip weighed 88 lbs.

I had no control over the drooling. Apparently I messed myself, but was too numb to know for sure and my sense of smell was gone.

I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head which I believe came from my hair.I 'm still looking for my nuts and I'm offering a significant reward for their safe return!!

P. S. My wife loved the gift, and now regularly threatens me with it!

END QUOTE



Dennis S
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93239 is a reply to message #93232] Sun, 25 July 2010 22:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tim Conway is currently offline  Tim Conway   United States
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On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Dennis Sexton wrote:

> When considering personnel safety while traveling in our GMC's --
> if you have considered a taser -- please read on. Reprinted here
> with the permission of the author, PaducahMichael, from a fly
> fishing forum on which I participate.


In this version the cat's name is Gracie...

http://www.snopes.com/humor/follies/taser.asp

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93249 is a reply to message #93239] Mon, 26 July 2010 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kind of ike shooting yourself to see if the gun really works.

The law was recently changed. Concealed and loaded weapons are now allowed in National Parks if you meet the carry requirements of the state where the National Park is located.


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Re: GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93261 is a reply to message #93232] Mon, 26 July 2010 07:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Problem:

There are many states and localities have very severe restrictions - as strict as firearm possession (like in Chicago).

These restrictions often cover anything else you might think worth having. We have to protect the perpetrators from any injustice similar to what they impose.

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93262 is a reply to message #93232] Mon, 26 July 2010 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I realize this is a humorous story Dennis, but a small percentage of
humans are not affected by these devices. I am one of them. While I
was attending officer update training, the instructor passed an Ultron
II around and each officer had to zap himself with it. You can only
imagine the reactions. When it was passed to me, I put it against my
thigh, pulled the trigger and passed it to the next officer. The
instructor thought I had not done as instructed so for the next live
demo, guess who got volulnteered. I had to hold a tennis ball at
arm's length while the instructor jammed the thing into my forearm to
show the class how the electricity overcomes brain and muscle
functions. Nada! I finally pulled away because my skin was starting
to smoke and that HURT! He looked at me, then jammed it into my chest
and pulled the trigger again. Nada, same two burn holes in my skin,
same smell. At that point I was ready to clock the idiot as I had
told him twice it doesn't seem to bother me.
Those things do work and I've seen people relieve themselves while
getting a jolt. They are non lethal and have neutralized thousands of
situations where more violent solutions would have to be used were it
not for these devices. Keep in mind that drunks and dopers are in the
group that are least suceptable to it's effects.

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Dennis Sexton <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
> Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my interest.  What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects of the taser were supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate time to retreat to safety....??
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93264 is a reply to message #93249] Mon, 26 July 2010 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ken,
In order to declare under oath that you know for sure that the tool
you are using to neutralize a situation is non lethal, it must be in
your training records that you have had that device use on yourself.
As far as the firearms go, it's the old forgiveness over permission thing.

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Kind of ike shooting yourself to see if the gun really works.
>
> The law was recently changed.  Concealed and loaded weapons are now allowed in National Parks if you meet the carry requirements of the state where the National Park is located.
> --
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93265 is a reply to message #93239] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tim -- thank you for the snopes posting.

My apologies to all -- when I posted this I had no reason to doubt the author -- especially since he knew my intentions were to share the story. Apparently he is a better fisherman than I had thought.

It was stll a funny read.

Dennis

Tim Conway wrote on Sun, 25 July 2010 22:25


On Jul 25, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Dennis Sexton wrote:

> When considering personnel safety while traveling in our GMC's --
> if you have considered a taser -- please read on. Reprinted here
> with the permission of the author, PaducahMichael, from a fly
> fishing forum on which I participate.


In this version the cat's name is Gracie...

http://www.snopes.com/humor/follies/taser.asp

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93267 is a reply to message #93262] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 6:26 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I realize this is a humorous story Dennis, but a small percentage of
> humans are not affected by these devices. I am one of them.

> Keep in mind that drunks and dopers are in the group that are
> least suceptable to it's effects.
>

Now,Steve, do you want to try and explain to us again why you were not
affected!? :) :)

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93269 is a reply to message #93267] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Emery Stora wrote:

> Now,Steve, do you want to try and explain to us again why you were not
> affected!? :) :)


LOL!

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93270 is a reply to message #93262] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 07:26

Keep in mind that drunks and dopers are in the
group that are least suceptable to it's effects.


Steve Ferguson




So...you're a doper?? Wink


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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93271 is a reply to message #93265] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Dennis Sexton wrote:

> Tim -- thank you for the snopes posting.
>
> My apologies to all -- when I posted this I had no reason to doubt
> the author -- especially since he knew my intentions were to share
> the story. Apparently he is a better fisherman than I had thought.
>
> It was stll a funny read.


Very welcome, Dennis. I was caught by quite a few similar stories
myself. Some really hilarious. Airline pilot who didn't know the
microphone was live, or the housewife wearing only a football helmet
and the meter reader. (I also always check inflammatory political
emails , same rate of truth :-)

Now I automatically go to Snopes...

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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93273 is a reply to message #93271] Mon, 26 July 2010 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AND, if you check out Snopes, you'll find that the husband/wife
team that ARE that site seem to have occasional betrayals of
their left-wing political outlook!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
~ Mac Macdonald ~
~ Oklahoma City ~
~~ "Money Pit" ~~
~ '76 ex - P.B. ~
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~


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* man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is Congress. *

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> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:34:27 -0400
> From: mactac735@mac.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Dennis Sexton wrote:
>
>> Tim -- thank you for the snopes posting.
>>
>> My apologies to all -- when I posted this I had no reason to doubt
>> the author -- especially since he knew my intentions were to share
>> the story. Apparently he is a better fisherman than I had thought.
>>
>> It was stll a funny read.
>
>
> Very welcome, Dennis. I was caught by quite a few similar stories
> myself. Some really hilarious. Airline pilot who didn't know the
> microphone was live, or the housewife wearing only a football helmet
> and the meter reader. (I also always check inflammatory political
> emails , same rate of truth :-)
>
> Now I automatically go to Snopes...
>
> Tim Conway
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93291 is a reply to message #93270] Mon, 26 July 2010 12:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dopey sometimes, doper, never!

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
>
>
> Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 07:26
>> Keep in mind that drunks and dopers are in the
>> group that are least suceptable to it's effects.
>>
>>
>> Steve Ferguson
>
>
> So...you're a doper??    ;)
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93323 is a reply to message #93291] Mon, 26 July 2010 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Last holiday season the local police department came to our Chamber of
Commerce meeting and gave a presentation on how to protect your store, it's
contents and yourself from criminals that come out for the holidays. Now in
Tennessee, it's pretty easy to get a handgun carry permit, but how many of
the"general public" really know how to use a firearm and how many will
actually have the where-with-all to protect themselves and not just empty a
14 round clip? Which could take out every piece of glass in a GMC!

Their answer was to get a couple of cans of "Wasp Stopper" or it's
equivalent. Unlike pepper spray and mace, it is legal in all 50 states. It
will spray 15 to 20 feet - enough reach for even a 26' coach. And who would
question why you have a couple of cans in your coach - just point them to
the mud dabbers.

Main point was - to be sure you know how to use your weapon of
choice effectively and don't hang around to see how well it worked.

Call 911 and get another can of Wasp Stopper - for the mud dabbers.

Tom Eckert N2VWN
73 Glacier
Oakland, TN

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> Dopey sometimes, doper, never!
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:30 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Steven Ferguson wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 07:26
> >> Keep in mind that drunks and dopers are in the
> >> group that are least suceptable to it's effects.
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve Ferguson
> >
> >
> > So...you're a doper?? ;)
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Re: [GMCnet] GMC security -- Taser on board? Long post [message #93370 is a reply to message #93323] Mon, 26 July 2010 19:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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""Their answer was to get a couple of cans of "Wasp Stopper" or it's
equivalent. Unlike pepper spray and mace, it is legal in all 50 states. It
will spray 15 to 20 feet - enough reach for even a 26' coach. And who would
question why you have a couple of cans in your coach - just point them to
the mud dabbers.
"" I've used that stuff, but not for this reason. I like this idea!


Bob de Kruyff
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Chandler, AZ
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Tim Conway wrote on Mon, 26 July 2010 08:34


On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Dennis Sexton wrote:

(I also always check inflammatory political
emails , same rate of truth Smile

Now I automatically go to Snopes...

Tim Conway




FYI,
In addition to Snoops, two other good sources:

http://www.truthorfiction.com/

and

http://www.factcheck.org/


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Dennis,
That shiny thing in your cheek . . . It's a hook. Wink
George Washington did not use his 2nd Amendment rights to talk the British out of here, he SHOT THEM.
Get a real weapon.


Hardie Johnson "Crashj"
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Last year at the end of the season, Lowe's marked it down from $2.97 a can
to $1. I still have a few left...

Tom

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> ""Their answer was to get a couple of cans of "Wasp Stopper" or it's
> equivalent. Unlike pepper spray and mace, it is legal in all 50 states. It
> will spray 15 to 20 feet - enough reach for even a 26' coach. And who would
> question why you have a couple of cans in your coach - just point them to
> the mud dabbers.
> "" I've used that stuff, but not for this reason. I like this idea!
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On Jul 26, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Larry wrote:

> FYI,
> In addition to Snoops, two other good sources:
>
> http://www.truthorfiction.com/
>
> and
>
> http://www.factcheck.org/



Thanks for those, Larry.

Looking around the first one, on stories with warnings or alerts, one
of them was on wasp spray, which coincidentally was also brought up
here. It was not dismissed, but did have some caveats. I checked
Snopes and it was essentially the same. Funny it came up just
checking out the site...

Tim Conway
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