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Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92690] Tue, 20 July 2010 12:47 Go to next message
Bruce is currently offline  Bruce   United States
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I put in all new bearings when I bought the coach ... however I guess that
was 10 years and 45k miles ago...
Guess what is getting replaced this weekend?
Bruce




In a message dated 7/20/2010 9:39:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
emerystora@mac.com writes:
Bruce
You have now found out that the "Old Wobble Test" is meaningless. The
only way to check the rear wheel bearings is to remove the hubs and check the
bearings. You don't say when they were last repacked. Do you know when it
was?

The GMC Maintenance Schedule and Maintenance Manual says that you should
clean and repack them every 24,000 miles. Part of the reason for this is
because the rubber seal on the inside bearing wears and will begin to allow
the entry of water into the bearing.

Over the years I have made it a point to repack mine at about that
mileage. I was planning to do it right after the GMCMI Spring Convention this
year but I have to go to Denver because of my daughter's broken leg. So I
finally got around to doing it last week. I had about 28,000 miles since the
last repack. Three of the wheels looked fine. The Mobil 1 grease was
still bright red except for a very thin film of it just inside the seals.
However on one wheel I found that the outside bearing had some severe
"etching" on two of the rollers and there was etching in one spot on the cup. This
could easily have led to a bearing failure on my next trip which is
planned to be about a 5000 mile round trip.

There was no sound, overheating or any other symptom of this. I have seen
or heard of several people losing their rear wheel and I sure don't want
it to happen to me. It usually takes out the spindle as well as the
bearings and possibly even parts of the fiberglass body and this involves major
work and expense to replace. Much easier to do preventative maintenance and
be safe.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM

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Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92733 is a reply to message #92690] Tue, 20 July 2010 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Emery,
Any chance you have one seal that is wrong and was touching the bearing cage. There are some poorly designed seals out there. Just ask Dave L.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92741 is a reply to message #92733] Tue, 20 July 2010 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Larry wrote:

>
>
> Emery,
> Any chance you have one seal that is wrong and was touching the bearing cage. There are some poorly designed seals out there. Just ask Dave L.
> --
> Larry :)
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.

There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92760 is a reply to message #92741] Tue, 20 July 2010 23:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


"' What???


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92761 is a reply to message #92760] Tue, 20 July 2010 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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He's not counting the grease cap as a seal.

Ken H.


On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@aol.com> wrote:

>
>
> ""There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.
>
> "' What???
> --
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Ken Henderson
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76 X-Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92763 is a reply to message #92760] Tue, 20 July 2010 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:

>
>
> ""There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
> "' What???
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
> _______________________________________________

I was asked ifmy problem bearing could have been caused by
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Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92764 is a reply to message #92760] Tue, 20 July 2010 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Bob de Kruyff <NEXT2POOL@AOL.COM> wrote:

>
>
> ""There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.
>
> Emery Stora
> 77 Kingsley
> Santa Fe, NM
>
>
> "' What???
> --
> Bob de Kruyff
> 78 Eleganza
> Chandler, AZ
> _______________________________________________
>
I was asked if my problem with my bearing could have been caused by
the metal lip on the seal touching the bearing. Since the bearing in
question was a rear outer bearing I replied that the are no seals on
the rear outer bearings.

This is correct unless you consider the cups over the axle nut a seal.
However that would not be a seal that has a lip that could contact the
bearing.

Emery Stora
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Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92773 is a reply to message #92741] Wed, 21 July 2010 06:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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emerystora wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 19:28


On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Larry wrote:

>
>
> Emery,
> Any chance you have one seal that is wrong and was touching the bearing cage. There are some poorly designed seals out there. Just ask Dave L.
> --
> Larry Smile
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.

There are no seals on the rear outer bearings.

Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM


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Ah...outside bearing...missed that...sorry.


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Good luck or Bad Luck??? (long) [message #92797 is a reply to message #92764] Wed, 21 July 2010 10:06 Go to previous message
Bob de Kruyff   United States
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""This is correct unless you consider the cups over the axle nut a seal.
However that would not be a seal that has a lip that could contact the
bearing.
""


AHHH--now I understand:)


Bob de Kruyff
78 Eleganza
Chandler, AZ
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