| propane fill valve stuck [message #92688] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 12:41  |
ldone
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Are these valves repairable? I removed the valve from the tank and hit everything with wd40 and the parts that move seemed to move properly. I am guessing that the valve was just stuck since it hasen't been filled in many moons. It seems to be in 2 parts but was unable to separate them.
76PB
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| Re: propane fill valve stuck [message #92718 is a reply to message #92688] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 15:53  |
Rick Williams
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As long as you have it removed, just buy a new one. They are not that expensive. I paid $26.00 in 2008. Get it at a propane supply store. Be sure to use thread sealant approved for propane.
Rick
Rick Williams
Bliss, Michigan
1978 Eleganza II
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| Re: propane fill valve stuck [message #92724 is a reply to message #92688] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 17:25 |
fred v
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the fill neck actually has 2 valves in it. there is the big ball that you can see from the outside and there is an inner check valve also. if the ball is loose then it's probably the inner valve that is stuck. if the tank is empty you can remove the fill neck and see what is wrong.
been there, got the tee shirt.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: propane fill valve stuck [message #92739 is a reply to message #92688] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 19:20 |
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Thank you all for your input. I took the fill valve apart as much as I could and shot everything w/penetrating oil. The inner valve that pops open when gas flows in seemed to be a little hesitant to open. I worked with it for awhile. I held it to my mouth and blew into it and the valve popped open with very little pressure(wife says I am windy but most of it is low pressure)I would guess maybe 1/2 pound pressure is all the pressure needed. Will try again to fill tomorrow. Thanks for the tip on sealing tape. I used regular teflon tape, hope that is suitable for propane contact.
76PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] propane fill valve stuck [message #92752 is a reply to message #92742] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 21:27 |
fred v
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| emerystora wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 19:33 |
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There os a teflon tape for gas connections. It usually is yellow colored. The white stuff is for water.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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i used regular plumbing paste when i put mine back on. doesn't leak. should i remove it and re-do?
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: propane fill valve stuck [message #92769 is a reply to message #92688] |
Wed, 21 July 2010 05:06 |
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You cannot expect regular white teflon tape to maintain a seal against leaking propane. Change it. It will eventually leak. As Emery said theres a yellow version of the tape specificaly for use with propane.
I don't know about plumbing paste.
Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa
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| Re: propane fill valve stuck [message #92840 is a reply to message #92688] |
Wed, 21 July 2010 21:37 |
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I was unable to get the old valve working. I Found a new valve in Heath Ohio. They refer to them as 80/20 valves. I had to check a half dozen places to find one in stock. Price has gone up too. It was $90+. It is not the same dimensions as the old valve. There is a shutoff float attached to it........had to remove float to install...no big deal. I always used the purge valve as an indicator when the tank was full. I don't use much propane but it is nice to have sometimes.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions..and....oh yeah...it came with some pipe thread compound on it...blue stuff.
76PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] propane fill valve stuck [message #92895 is a reply to message #92888] |
Thu, 22 July 2010 17:24 |
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| emerystora wrote on Thu, 22 July 2010 15:18 |
On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:10 PM, mills wrote:
> That one is just an "inny" isn't it? I need an "outie".
> My vapor valve leaks when I open it.
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> Greeley, CO
> 1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
> 1973 Glacier 230 TZE-033V101993
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I think that the 1-3/4" Acme thread is an outer thread. Usually this fitting has both inner and outer threads.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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isn't the Acme thread the one that the hose attaches to? my tank had a reducer bushing to accept the 3/4" pipe thread. i do recall that it had that red sealer on the threads but i added the pipe dope.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] propane fill valve stuck [message #92898 is a reply to message #92895] |
Thu, 22 July 2010 17:29 |
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On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:24 PM, fred veenschoten wrote:
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> emerystora wrote on Thu, 22 July 2010 15:18
>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 1:10 PM, mills wrote:
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>>> That one is just an "inny" isn't it? I need an "outie".
>>> My vapor valve leaks when I open it.
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>>> Jim Mills
>>> Greeley, CO
>>> 1973 CanyonLands 260 TZE-063V100731(under renovation)
>>> 1973 Glacier 230 TZE-033V101993
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> isn't the Acme thread the one that the hose attaches to? my tank had a reducer bushing to accept the 3/4" pipe thread. i do recall that it had that red sealer on the threads but i added the pipe dope.
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> Fred V
> '77 Royale RB 455
> P'cola, Fl
Yes, it is. I had assumed that was what Jim Mills meant by an "outie".
Your guess is as good as mine as to what an "inny" and an "outie" is. Actually at first I thought he was referring to his "belly button".
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] propane fill valve stuck [message #92902 is a reply to message #92901] |
Thu, 22 July 2010 18:18 |
emerystora
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OK. I think I understand what you mean now.
You are referring to the tank fill valve as an "inny" and the tank
withdrawal valve as the "outie".
The tank fill valve has threads on the inside which fits some fill
lines and it also has threads on the outside so it can be filled by
the larger Acme threaded fill fitting. That is what i thought you
meant by an "inny" and an "outie" which is why I said it had both.
The tank withdrawal is a standard POL valve.
Emery Stora
On Jul 22, 2010, at 5:02 PM, mills <mills@bmi.net> wrote:
> Would a "goes in" and a "goes out" be better?
> I was referring to the propane fill fitting and the propane withdrawal
> fitting.
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> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 16:29 -0600, Emery Stora wrote:
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>> On Jul 22, 2010, at 4:24 PM, fred veenschoten wrote:
>> Yes, it is. I had assumed that was what Jim Mills meant by an
>> "outie".
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>> Your guess is as good as mine as to what an "inny" and an "outie"
>> is. Actually at first I thought he was referring to his "belly
>> button".
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>> Emery Stora
>> 77 Kingsley
>> Santa Fe, NM
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