| Bath module leaking onto floor during showers [message #92675] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 11:33  |
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RF_Burns
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When taking a shower our wet bath module leaks onto the floor and drips by the back passenger corner... Ok is more than a drip.. it running out!
I'm thinking it must be leaking onto the floor around the toilet. its definitely leaking onto the top of the floor, not leaking on top of the black tank. What is there to seal the toilet? regular toilet seal?
I saw on the photo site someone changing the flange but it wasn't clear if this is an easy on-the road fix or one best left till we return in a week's time.
Any ideas for a quick and dirty fix till we get back?
thanks
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: Bath module leaking onto floor during showers [message #92695 is a reply to message #92675] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 13:10  |
John Sharpe
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When taking a shower our wet bath module leaks onto the floor and drips by the back passenger corner... Ok is more than a drip.. it running out!
I'm thinking it must be leaking onto the floor around the toilet. its definitely leaking onto the top of the floor, not leaking on top of the black tank. What is there to seal the toilet? regular toilet seal?
I saw on the photo site someone changing the flange but it wasn't clear if this is an easy on-the road fix or one best left till we return in a week's time.
Any ideas for a quick and dirty fix till we get back?
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The toilet flange is screwed to the floor of the shower and a rubber seal is used between the toilet and the flange. I could be the shower drain pipe leaking because it is between the bath module floor and the coach floor. You could check this out by running the shower directly into the drain. If you detect a leak then it is in the shower drain pipe. Water could have frozen in the p-trap and split a pipe. With all the potential complications you could run into, I would quit using the shower until I got home. Just enjoy yourself and use shower houses or motels.
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'78 Eleganza TBI
'89 Spectrum 2000 MPI V-10
'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
johnasharpe@gmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bath module leaking onto floor during showers [message #92717 is a reply to message #92675] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 15:17 |
powerjon
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The only way that you could have a leak of water during a shower is
that the seal between the shower drain and floor has failed and the
water is leaking on to the floor under the shower. There is very
little possibility that the toilet flange is leaking because of the
way it is installed. One other alternative is that you have a crack
in the fiberglass floor. You need to remove the board at the front of
the shower and look underneath.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/search.php?searchid=19097
I prefer the closable shower drain that is available from Cinnabar.
They have it at a reasonable price, around $20 Part# 600510
J.R. Wright
GMC GreatLaker
TZE Zone Restorations
77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan
On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:33 PM, Bruce Hislop wrote:
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> When taking a shower our wet bath module leaks onto the floor and
> drips by the back passenger corner... Ok is more than a drip.. it
> running out!
> I'm thinking it must be leaking onto the floor around the toilet.
> its definitely leaking onto the top of the floor, not leaking on top
> of the black tank. What is there to seal the toilet? regular toilet
> seal?
> I saw on the photo site someone changing the flange but it wasn't
> clear if this is an easy on-the road fix or one best left till we
> return in a week's time.
> Any ideas for a quick and dirty fix till we get back?
>
> thanks
>
>
> --
> Bruce Hislop,
> S. Ontario Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
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| Re: Bath module leaking onto floor during showers [message #92721 is a reply to message #92675] |
Tue, 20 July 2010 16:26 |
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Matt Colie
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| RF_Burns wrote on Tue, 20 July 2010 12:33 |
When taking a shower our wet bath module leaks onto the floor and drips by the back passenger corner... Ok is more than a drip.. it running out!
I'm thinking it must be leaking onto the floor around the toilet. its definitely leaking onto the top of the floor, not leaking on top of the black tank. What is there to seal the toilet? regular toilet seal?
I saw on the photo site someone changing the flange but it wasn't clear if this is an easy on-the road fix or one best left till we return in a week's time.
Any ideas for a quick and dirty fix till we get back?
thanks
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Bruce,
This sounds very much like a problem (actually two problems) that I had.
First - short answer.
I would not attempt either repair while on the road if I had any choice at all.
Cheap and dirty to get home: Put duck tape (must be duck and not duct - for the obvious reason) around the toilet base and the floor drain. REMOVE it as SOON as you can. The goo is nasty to get clean later.
Long answer
Assuming (not a real good bet) that your wetbath is like my 73, there are two places you should look at.
First is the shower drain. Mine was actually loose in the module floor. I removed it, it unscrews, and the only thing that was sealing it was some dried out and broken up plumber's putty. I had to remove the kick board under the module (2 screws) to put in a spacer so the floor drain could actually be tightened on new bedding compound (plumber's putty would do).
Second is the toilet floor flange. You have to remove the pot. Then you are looking at the floor flange. If that flange is not sealed to the module floor then water can run out under it and into the back bedroom. Almost any caulk at all will do to seal the flange to the module floor. The rubber seal under the pot will have nothing what ever to do with this leak as it serves only as a gas seal between the pot and the floor flange. You can usually buy a replacement for the rubber seal under the pot even though it is part of a kit. The kit is to replace the valve that freezes and cracks, but that is the way to get that ring.
Good Luck
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Bath module leaking onto floor during showers [message #92831 is a reply to message #92780] |
Wed, 21 July 2010 17:45 |
Steven Ferguson
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You two must be awful tiny folks. When I'm in the shower, there isn't
enough room left over for me to change my mind.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Bruce Hislop <bruce@perthcomm.com> wrote:
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> I picked up a rubber toilet seal and some "Crack Seal" while we were out and about yesterday aft. When we got back I got down and dirty with the flash light to see what I was dealing with.
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> The toilet is a Thetford, but has been changed, has a date code of April/94. I could quickly see the cause of the leak. I suspect it has leaked since it was replaced! There is a opening at the front under the flush pedal and it was very evident that there was nothing sealing water from running under the flange. There is a similiar opening at the back.
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> I elected to run some Crack Seal around the entire base. Then I built up a dam at the front and back openings about an inch high.
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> This morning I watched as Paula took her shower... all was dry! Woo Hoo!
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> When we get back I'll do a permanent fix.
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> Bruce Hislop,
> S. Ontario Canada
> 77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI and ESC.
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=29001
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