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[GMCnet] Cross country adventure from beautiful Prince Edward Island [message #92661] Tue, 20 July 2010 07:34 Go to next message
Gerald Work is currently offline  Gerald Work   United States
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Hi all,

Our GMC continues to perform like a champ. We are now 5,800 miles into our adventure, averaging 8.4 mpg, and enjoying some of the best rv parks we have seen anywhere, the Provincial parks on PEI. The island is spectacular in it's own way with lots of small fishing villages dotting the coast line and farms in the interior but these parks deserve special mention. We have only stayed at two of them so far and these two plus the others we have driven through have all been outstanding.

The one we are in at the moment (Brudenell Provincial Park on the east coast of the island) is a resort with three golf courses, large swimming pool, beaches, hotel rooms, cabins, full service RV sites and acres of well maintained grass and flowers. Best of all for us is direct access to over 400 km of bicycle trails that follow an abandoned rail line that criss crosses the island. Yup, it really is as nice as it sounds. Price? $28 per day senior rate. Weather has been beautiful during the day with rain some nights.

Yesterday we rode our bikes on the bike trail into the small fishing town of Georgetown. What a treat. The boats coming in were full of muscles that leave the Island in large bins by truck for distribution around the region. In the center of town is a large formal garden that is on land reclaimed from a former cattle and horse watering area. Three people were there doing maintenance, one of whom was the prime mover in starting the park some 30 years ago. They said the town residents pay them a small amount for maintaining the park but much of the manpower is volunteer. The town is also full of interesting, historically significant houses and buildings. Idyllic. While it will be difficult to leave such a beautiful area we do want to circumnavigate the island while we are here so will stay one more night and then continue ccw around the perimeter of the island.

We may have solved the mysterious leak in our GMC, fingers crossed. I removed the cap on the old, small bathroom vent. It was designed so that when closed a thick foam gasket on the inside of that cap would seal against a cast aluminum ring on the housing. On ours, that gasket was missing. Normally that would not be much of an issue since there is about a 3/4" channel between that outer seal ring and the inner ring around the fan itself. In our case the vent had been mounted via pop rivets from below that project from the underside of the roof up into that channel. It looks to me like water could pass the missing seal, puddle in the bottom of the channel and leak though the pop rivets down onto the top side of the ceiling panels where it could flow to leak out around the ps rear window. The vent had been installed with the "front" mark pointing to the ps. Hmmmm.

Since our coach has leather ceiling panels, the panels themselves were made from some kind of water resistant rigid material which would allow this to go on without showing from the inside. That is my hypothesis and I am sticking by it.........until proven wrong, again (grin).

Anyway, I sealed the pop rivets with Captain Tulley's leak sealer and did a temp gasket made from Polyseamseal. I did buy some foam weather strip and will do the permanent fix for the seal today. In last nights rain we did not leak, but there was little wind to drive the water under that cap so can't be sure that was the source until we have to drive in a hard rain.

More later.

Jerry Work
78 royale rear lounge

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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure from beautiful Prince Edward Island [message #92662 is a reply to message #92661] Tue, 20 July 2010 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eddie Pettit is currently offline  Eddie Pettit   United States
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Jerry,

Sounds like you've picked an excellent place to stay. I hope you've solved
your leaking issue. Thanks for sharing.

Eddie Pettit

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> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Work

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> Subject: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure from beautiful

> Prince Edward Island

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Our GMC continues to perform like a champ. We are now 5,800

> miles into our adventure, averaging 8.4 mpg, and enjoying

> some of the best rv parks we have seen anywhere, the

> Provincial parks on PEI. The island is spectacular in it's

> own way with lots of small fishing villages dotting the coast

> line and farms in the interior but these parks deserve

> special mention. We have only stayed at two of them so far

> and these two plus the others we have driven through have all

> been outstanding.

>

> The one we are in at the moment (Brudenell Provincial Park

> on the east coast of the island) is a resort with three golf

> courses, large swimming pool, beaches, hotel rooms, cabins,

> full service RV sites and acres of well maintained grass and

> flowers. Best of all for us is direct access to over 400 km

> of bicycle trails that follow an abandoned rail line that

> criss crosses the island. Yup, it really is as nice as it

> sounds. Price? $28 per day senior rate. Weather has been

> beautiful during the day with rain some nights.

>

> Yesterday we rode our bikes on the bike trail into the small

> fishing town of Georgetown. What a treat. The boats coming

> in were full of muscles that leave the Island in large bins

> by truck for distribution around the region. In the center

> of town is a large formal garden that is on land reclaimed

> from a former cattle and horse watering area. Three people

> were there doing maintenance, one of whom was the prime mover

> in starting the park some 30 years ago. They said the town

> residents pay them a small amount for maintaining the park

> but much of the manpower is volunteer. The town is also full

> of interesting, historically significant houses and

> buildings. Idyllic. While it will be difficult to leave

> such a beautiful area we do want to circumnavigate the island

> while we are here so will stay one more night and then

> continue ccw around the perimeter of the island.

>

> We may have solved the mysterious leak in our GMC, fingers

> crossed. I removed the cap on the old, small bathroom vent.

> It was designed so that when closed a thick foam gasket on

> the inside of that cap would seal against a cast aluminum

> ring on the housing. On ours, that gasket was missing.

> Normally that would not be much of an issue since there is

> about a 3/4" channel between that outer seal ring and the

> inner ring around the fan itself. In our case the vent had

> been mounted via pop rivets from below that project from the

> underside of the roof up into that channel. It looks to me

> like water could pass the missing seal, puddle in the bottom

> of the channel and leak though the pop rivets down onto the

> top side of the ceiling panels where it could flow to leak

> out around the ps rear window. The vent had been installed

> with the "front" mark pointing to the ps. Hmmmm.

>

> Since our coach has leather ceiling panels, the panels

> themselves were made from some kind of water resistant rigid

> material which would allow this to go on without showing from

> the inside. That is my hypothesis and I am sticking by

> it.........until proven wrong, again (grin).

>

> Anyway, I sealed the pop rivets with Captain Tulley's leak

> sealer and did a temp gasket made from Polyseamseal. I did

> buy some foam weather strip and will do the permanent fix for

> the seal today. In last nights rain we did not leak, but

> there was little wind to drive the water under that cap so

> can't be sure that was the source until we have to drive in a

> hard rain.

>

> More later.

>

> Jerry Work

> 78 royale rear lounge

>

> Sent from my iPad

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Re: [GMCnet] Cross country adventure from beautiful Prince Edward Island [message #92664 is a reply to message #92661] Tue, 20 July 2010 09:29 Go to previous message
James Hupy is currently offline  James Hupy   United States
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Gerald, when I was chasing leaks in my 78 Royale w/dry side bath, there was
evidence of the small pop up bathroom fan leaking water. I drilled out the
rivets from the roof and removed the outside part from the coach. The
previous owner had smeared some kind of silicone sealant all around it
including the drain hole. It was also installed with the front mark
installed to the rear of the coach, and this appeared to be the way coachman
installed it. The PO also helped me out by covering the silicone with a
Bondo type product. I threw it in my glass bead cabinet and removed all the
finish, and powder coated it. I replaced the pop rivets with captive nuts
and stainless screws w/neoprene washers under the heads. Repainted the
inside parts and replaced the push to start switch which was full of rust.
Lubed the fan motor and now it works like it should and no more leaks. Those
assemblers at Coachman must have been very poorly trained and left
unsupervised. Lots of their work is just plain wrong.
Incidentally, While you were in Quartzite this past winter, My brother in
law & his wife with a SOB towing a Jeep Grand Cherokee met you and had a
discussion about Mary & I having a GMC. They took lots of Pix & it looked
like some good times around the campfires in spite of the Monsoon rains.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
78 Royale 403

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Gerald Work <glwork@me.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Our GMC continues to perform like a champ. We are now 5,800 miles into our
> adventure, averaging 8.4 mpg, and enjoying some of the best rv parks we have
> seen anywhere, the Provincial parks on PEI. The island is spectacular in
> it's own way with lots of small fishing villages dotting the coast line and
> farms in the interior but these parks deserve special mention. We have only
> stayed at two of them so far and these two plus the others we have driven
> through have all been outstanding.
>
> The one we are in at the moment (Brudenell Provincial Park on the east
> coast of the island) is a resort with three golf courses, large swimming
> pool, beaches, hotel rooms, cabins, full service RV sites and acres of well
> maintained grass and flowers. Best of all for us is direct access to over
> 400 km of bicycle trails that follow an abandoned rail line that criss
> crosses the island. Yup, it really is as nice as it sounds. Price? $28
> per day senior rate. Weather has been beautiful during the day with rain
> some nights.
>
> Yesterday we rode our bikes on the bike trail into the small fishing town
> of Georgetown. What a treat. The boats coming in were full of muscles that
> leave the Island in large bins by truck for distribution around the region.
> In the center of town is a large formal garden that is on land reclaimed
> from a former cattle and horse watering area. Three people were there doing
> maintenance, one of whom was the prime mover in starting the park some 30
> years ago. They said the town residents pay them a small amount for
> maintaining the park but much of the manpower is volunteer. The town is
> also full of interesting, historically significant houses and buildings.
> Idyllic. While it will be difficult to leave such a beautiful area we do
> want to circumnavigate the island while we are here so will stay one more
> night and then continue ccw around the perimeter of the island.
>
> We may have solved the mysterious leak in our GMC, fingers crossed. I
> removed the cap on the old, small bathroom vent. It was designed so that
> when closed a thick foam gasket on the inside of that cap would seal against
> a cast aluminum ring on the housing. On ours, that gasket was missing.
> Normally that would not be much of an issue since there is about a 3/4"
> channel between that outer seal ring and the inner ring around the fan
> itself. In our case the vent had been mounted via pop rivets from below
> that project from the underside of the roof up into that channel. It looks
> to me like water could pass the missing seal, puddle in the bottom of the
> channel and leak though the pop rivets down onto the top side of the ceiling
> panels where it could flow to leak out around the ps rear window. The vent
> had been installed with the "front" mark pointing to the ps. Hmmmm.
>
> Since our coach has leather ceiling panels, the panels themselves were made
> from some kind of water resistant rigid material which would allow this to
> go on without showing from the inside. That is my hypothesis and I am
> sticking by it.........until proven wrong, again (grin).
>
> Anyway, I sealed the pop rivets with Captain Tulley's leak sealer and did a
> temp gasket made from Polyseamseal. I did buy some foam weather strip and
> will do the permanent fix for the seal today. In last nights rain we did
> not leak, but there was little wind to drive the water under that cap so
> can't be sure that was the source until we have to drive in a hard rain.
>
> More later.
>
> Jerry Work
> 78 royale rear lounge
>
> Sent from my iPad
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