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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92012] Thu, 15 July 2010 08:07 Go to next message
David L Greenberg is currently offline  David L Greenberg   United States
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:53:33 -0500 Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com>
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>
>
> bukzin wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 21:38
> > Mine is a stock (I believe) '77 Palm Beach with a 6k Onan.
> >
> > Does it matter which size switch I order?
> >
> > This would just keep me from having to move the plug
> > from the Onan to shore power, is that correct
> > or are there other benefits?
>
>
> I believe all GMC upfitted coaches came wired for 50amp cords. I
> also believe the Coachman coaches (Royale and Birchaven) came wired
> with 30 amp and had what works out as a "manual" transfer switch.
> Other upfitters coaches are a grab-bag.

Not all GM finished coaches had 50A cords-73-early 75 had 30 A.


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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92036 is a reply to message #92012] Thu, 15 July 2010 12:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shawnee is currently offline  shawnee   United States
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David L Greenberg wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:07


On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:53:33 -0500 Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com>
writes:
>
>
> bukzin wrote on Wed, 14 July 2010 21:38
> > Mine is a stock (I believe) '77 Palm Beach with a 6k Onan.
> >
> > Does it matter which size switch I order?
> >
> > This would just keep me from having to move the plug
> > from the Onan to shore power, is that correct
> > or are there other benefits?
>
>
> I believe all GMC upfitted coaches came wired for 50amp cords. I
> also believe the Coachman coaches (Royale and Birchaven) came wired
> with 30 amp and had what works out as a "manual" transfer switch.
> Other upfitters coaches are a grab-bag.

Not all GM finished coaches had 50A cords-73-early 75 had 30 A.


David Lee Greenberg
Port St Lucie, FL skype: david.lee.greenberg
Dedicated to the Preservation of the Classic GMC Motorhome




Dave,

If you mean all GM finished early 73 through early 75 only had 30 amp cords I have to disagree. My early 74 Canyonlands and my neighbor's early 74 Eleganza both have 50 amp. Maybe I misunderstood you message.


Gene Dotson
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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92048 is a reply to message #92012] Thu, 15 July 2010 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Denney is currently offline  Richard Denney   United States
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On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:07 AM, David L Greenberg
<davegreenberg1@juno.com>wrote:

> Not all GM finished coaches had 50A cords-73-early 75 had 30 A.
>

I thought it was the reverse. My '73 certainly came with a 50-amp plug and
receptacle for the Onan.

Of course, the coaches were wired for two independent 20-amp sets of
circuits, for 40 amps total (on the neutral return, at least).

But have never found a formula that would allow prediction of the type of
plug on any given coach, especially considering what prior owners might have
done. So the only way to know is to look.

Rick "recognizing that this question is often a substitute for, 'which
transfer switch should I buy?'" Denney
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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92055 is a reply to message #92048] Thu, 15 July 2010 16:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Arthur Mansfield is currently offline  Arthur Mansfield   United States
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When at Bean Station working on my generator we turned on everything two Ac plus loading up the inside it pulled just under 30 AMPs. My hot water heater draws 10 AMPs when heating the water. It is not the original hot water heater (tri-mpode). The starting load of two AC and the hot water heater could push the 30 AMPs if anything else was running. So I would except a 30 AMP might be marginal. 50 AMP is over kill. Some have put 30 AMPS in the 6KW generator with on problems. I installed a 40AMP in my generator just to be safe. As far as I am concern plugging and unplugging to switch between generator and external power is not a problem and will not fail as I have read has happened to transfer switches.

Art & Doris
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On Jul 15, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Richard Denney wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:07 AM, David L Greenberg
> <davegreenberg1@juno.com>wrote:
>
>> Not all GM finished coaches had 50A cords-73-early 75 had 30 A.
>>
>
> I thought it was the reverse. My '73 certainly came with a 50-amp plug and
> receptacle for the Onan.
>
> Of course, the coaches were wired for two independent 20-amp sets of
> circuits, for 40 amps total (on the neutral return, at least).
>
> But have never found a formula that would allow prediction of the type of
> plug on any given coach, especially considering what prior owners might have
> done. So the only way to know is to look.
>
> Rick "recognizing that this question is often a substitute for, 'which
> transfer switch should I buy?'" Denney
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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92070 is a reply to message #92055] Thu, 15 July 2010 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Art,

you said "I installed a 40AMP in my generator just to be safe"


Did you mean the circuit breaker mounted on the Onan
or something else?


Thanks!


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92071 is a reply to message #92070] Thu, 15 July 2010 19:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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circuit breaker in Onan
On Jul 15, 2010, at 6:40 PM, Richard wrote:

>
>
> Art,
>
> you said "I installed a 40AMP in my generator just to be safe"
>
>
> Did you mean the circuit breaker mounted on the Onan
> or something else?
>
>
> Thanks!
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> Bukzin
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Re: [GMCnet] 30 or 50 amp [message #92083 is a reply to message #92012] Thu, 15 July 2010 20:32 Go to previous message
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David L Greenberg wrote on Thu, 15 July 2010 09:07


Not all GM finished coaches had 50A cords-73-early 75 had 30 A.

David Lee Greenberg


Dave,
My late '73 - 23' has a 50Amp cable and two 40amp circuits. I guess I could run the AC, the water heater, the microwave and the 58" plasma screen and still be able to weld (with small rod).

Matt


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