| [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction [message #91823] |
Tue, 13 July 2010 16:16  |
bdub
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I don't know where to find that material. Can anyone help Ashley?
bdub
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Hi There,
I have a client that is restoring a '76 Palm Beach and they want to
replicate the original interior as closely as possible. I am trying to
source out fabric options and was wondering if you know of any good sources
to find that plaid fabric.
Thank you!
Ashlie Langan
Design Consultant | Project Manager
Covers Unlimited
312.492.7860
www.coversunlimitedinc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction [message #91866 is a reply to message #91827] |
Tue, 13 July 2010 20:07  |
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mike miller
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Interesting, Googled Herculon and got this:
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Olefin: known by many people by the trade name, Herculon. Strong, with natural stain resistant properties, olefin is a bulky fiber. with a coarse "hand" that does not hold up well to direct sunlight. Often it is used to create heavy textured causal fabrics. These fabrics when loosely woven require a latex backing for added strength.
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Most likely that was the original material in my Birch. It has the same texture and feel... just a different patten. The areas near the windows have sun damage.
You might find some new Herculon. but when "restoring a '76 Palm Beach" it would be hard to find ANY new fabric with the same pattern. Getting the same fabric AND the same pattern...
BUT... It may be possible to get "used" fabric.
For example: I have a set of Palm Beach furniture that I have been planning on installing in my 1973 ex-Painted Desert. (Making it a Palm Desert?) The dinette material is worn but the panels, the couch and the rear seating are in very good shape. If people save and "pool" the old material from a couple of Palm Beach coach renovations that use new fabric, there should be enough good old material to piece together one coach worth of original fabric.
Note: That the fabric is fairly easily removed from the frames and springs reducing shipping costs.
It might take a bit of time and effort. How much time and money is the client willing to spend on an "original interior"?
-- Mike
| Fin Beven wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 14:37 |
If this helps, I think that the fabric was called Herculon, and it was also
used on many production boats of that era.
http://www.discountfabricsusacorp.com/plaids1.html
Fin.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billy Massey" <bdub@bdub.net>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction
> I don't know where to find that material. Can anyone help Ashley?
>
> bdub
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> Hi There,
>
> I have a client that is restoring a '76 Palm Beach and they want to
> replicate the original interior as closely as possible. I am trying to
> source out fabric options and was wondering if you know of any good
> sources
> to find that plaid fabric.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Ashlie Langan
>
> Design Consultant | Project Manager
>
> Covers Unlimited
>
> 312.492.7860
>
> www.coversunlimitedinc.com
>
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(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction [message #91875 is a reply to message #91866] |
Tue, 13 July 2010 20:56 |
4701
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Herculon is the worst, though.
In 2003 I got a 77 boat that was originally done in Herculon. When they
say "damaged by the sun" they mean that it breaks down into a substance
that feels like fiberglass dust and gets in everything.
I know he wants to be authentic, but substituting another heavy fabric
might get the looks right and be necessary for his sanity. Besides, any
old fabric you put in there now is just that much closer to degrading
like this.
I had to tear out that old boat and it was awful. But, I re-did it in
leopard print... so it made up for that!
Desmond
On 07/13/2010 06:07 PM, Mike Miller wrote:
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> Interesting, Googled Herculon and got this:
>
> Quote:
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>> Olefin: known by many people by the trade name, Herculon. Strong, with natural stain resistant properties, olefin is a bulky fiber. with a coarse "hand" that does not hold up well to direct sunlight. Often it is used to create heavy textured causal fabrics. These fabrics when loosely woven require a latex backing for added strength.
>>
>
> Most likely that was the original material in my Birch. It has the same texture and feel... just a different patten. The areas near the windows have sun damage.
>
> You might find some new Herculon. but when "restoring a '76 Palm Beach" it would be hard to find ANY new fabric with the same pattern. Getting the same fabric AND the same pattern...
>
> BUT... It may be possible to get "used" fabric.
>
> For example: I have a set of Palm Beach furniture that I have been planning on installing in my 1973 ex-Painted Desert. (Making it a Palm Desert?) The dinette material is worn but the panels, the couch and the rear seating are in very good shape. If people save and "pool" the old material from a couple of Palm Beach coach renovations that use new fabric, there should be enough good old material to piece together one coach worth of original fabric.
>
> Note: That the fabric is fairly easily removed from the frames and springs reducing shipping costs.
>
> It might take a bit of time and effort. How much time and money is the client willing to spend on an "original interior"?
>
> -- Mike
>
> Fin Beven wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 14:37
>
>> If this helps, I think that the fabric was called Herculon, and it was also
>> used on many production boats of that era.
>>
>> http://www.discountfabricsusacorp.com/plaids1.html
>>
>> Fin.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Billy Massey"<bdub@bdub.net>
>> To:<gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 2:16 PM
>> Subject: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction
>>
>>
>>> I don't know where to find that material. Can anyone help Ashley?
>>>
>>> bdub
>>>
>> ===========================
>>
>>> Hi There,
>>>
>>> I have a client that is restoring a '76 Palm Beach and they want to
>>> replicate the original interior as closely as possible. I am trying to
>>> source out fabric options and was wondering if you know of any good
>>> sources
>>> to find that plaid fabric.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Ashlie Langan
>>>
>>> Design Consultant | Project Manager
>>>
>>> Covers Unlimited
>>>
>>> 312.492.7860
>>>
>>> www.coversunlimitedinc.com
>>>
>>>
>
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction [message #91921 is a reply to message #91875] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 08:09 |
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mike miller
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| 4701 wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 18:56 |
Herculon is the worst, though....
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I know he wants to be authentic, but substituting another heavy fabric
might get the looks right and be necessary for his sanity. Besides, any
old fabric you put in there now is just that much closer to degrading
like this. ...
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I do not disagree with you about substituting newer materials. BUT I was giving a way to stay "truly" original. I an fairly sure the rear seating I have had been covered for most of it's life... made up into a bed. Many other coaches will be the same.
However... if the owner uses the coach, Like you said, he would be MUCH better off with new upholstery fabric. Anyone know good material? (I doubt it would be cheap.) I was thinking something designed for outdoor furniture would be good... then again, I know very little about the subject.
OBTW: Did you look at the website? ( www.coversunlimitedinc.com ) NON-GMC but nice work. Read how they started, interesting concept for starting a business,
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
More Sidekicks than GMC's and a late model Malibu called 'Boo'
http://m000035.blogspot.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 76 Palm Beach Interior Reproduction [message #91930 is a reply to message #91823] |
Wed, 14 July 2010 09:33 |
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When I bought my '75 Palm Beach in '98, the PO told me he had done a very thorough search for the original material. He got some from the original manufacturer and was told there was no more available from them. His search of all other sources he could find, no one had any stock. He had redone the interior (upholstery, carpet and cabinet doors) the year before I bought the coach. He definitely had the resources to do the searching so I have to believe him. Used material seems to be all that is available, and not much of that. HTH
Little Yimmy - W9VUA
75 PB - F260206
Twin Cities, MN
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