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Tubing fabrication [message #91804] Tue, 13 July 2010 13:37 Go to next message
petemosss is currently offline  petemosss   United States
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When flaring 37 deg ends on steel tubing one uses steel nuts and sleeves.

When flaring 37 deg ends on copper tubing one uses steel nuts and sleeves.

When flaring 37 deg ends on aluminum tubing can one use steel nuts and sleeves vs the overpriced speedshop aluminum nuts and sleeves?


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Re: Tubing fabrication [message #91822 is a reply to message #91804] Tue, 13 July 2010 16:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GeorgeRud is currently offline  GeorgeRud   United States
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It sounds like the flare is the same, but I wonder if corrosion from dissimilar metals would be a problem. Also, the softer aluminum may deform too much when tightened by the steel nut (?).

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Re: [GMCnet] Tubing fabrication [message #91915 is a reply to message #91822] Wed, 14 July 2010 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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George,
I have had good luck with alum fuel lines with 37 deg flares. The
soft alum really conforms well to the male surface. Much easier to
use that SS which tends to gall softer materials.

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Re: [GMCnet] Tubing fabrication [message #91917 is a reply to message #91915] Wed, 14 July 2010 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carleton Douglas[1] is currently offline  Carleton Douglas[1]   United States
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Steel brake lines work real well also and I think they are much
cheeper than alum..

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:27 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com> wrote:
> George,
>  I have had good luck with alum fuel lines with 37 deg flares.  The
> soft alum really conforms well to the male surface.  Much easier to
> use that SS which tends to gall softer materials.
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:21 PM, George Rudawsky <GeorgeRud@aol.com> wrote:
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>>
>> It sounds like the flare is the same, but I wonder if corrosion from dissimilar metals would be a problem.  Also, the softer aluminum may deform too much when tightened by the steel nut (?).
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Re: [GMCnet] Tubing fabrication [message #91974 is a reply to message #91917] Wed, 14 July 2010 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Carlton,
I would only use steel for brake lines. The aluminum was for fuel.
Had a car with a fuel cell and it had 1/2" aluminum fuel lines. Nice
to work with but again, for brakes I would only use steel.

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> Steel brake lines work real well also and I think they are much
> cheeper than alum..
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Re: [GMCnet] Tubing fabrication [message #91976 is a reply to message #91974] Wed, 14 July 2010 17:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try this.

http://www.fedhillusa.com/


Tom Eckert N2VWN
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On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> Carlton,
> I would only use steel for brake lines. The aluminum was for fuel.
> Had a car with a fuel cell and it had 1/2" aluminum fuel lines. Nice
> to work with but again, for brakes I would only use steel.
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Carleton Douglas <aecsdouglas@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Steel brake lines work real well also and I think they are much
> > cheeper than alum..
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> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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Re: Tubing fabrication [message #92014 is a reply to message #91804] Thu, 15 July 2010 08:22 Go to previous message
petemosss is currently offline  petemosss   United States
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Thanks for the input. I'm thinking fuel here and female vs inverted flare. I bought a 20' stick of hydraulic steel tube from my favorite supply house and in just under a few weeks siting outside(protected too) it has rusted both inside and out. I paid $1.13' and the local speed shop has 25' rolls of 3/8" alum for $28. so costs are close. I have all the POR15 tank products but derusting and coating 3/8" pieces of tubing do not sound fun or practical. Supply house does not sell Aluminum tubing and they can't advise. Aluminum nuts and sleeves thru Russell or Aeroquip are astronomical and for weight reasons I think.

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