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recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 21:19 Go to next message
jayrabe is currently offline  jayrabe   United States
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Seen several coaches with front engine hatch latches either hidden or recessed. I like the clean look. Anybody know how it's done?

Thanks...

some examples:

completely hidden:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31131&title=camaro-front-gmc&cat=7

recessed:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34908&title=recessed-latch&cat=5382

J
76 PB
Portland, OR
Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91727 is a reply to message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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First one appears to be photoshopped. Second one may be Dzus fasteners.

Mike K. '75 PB Southeast Michigan

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Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91728 is a reply to message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JimB has the recessed locks. Used with a special key.
Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91739 is a reply to message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...J...
I put in Leigh Harrison's (completely) hidden laches...
love the look...completely smooth look!..Hot Rod Smooth!!

I'd recomend this system all day long...wish I knew how to
post picks of my coach...but I don't

Dan

PS you'll find leigh in the supplier list



Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91740 is a reply to message #91728] Mon, 12 July 2010 23:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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I know of several GMCs with concealed latches. Most use a spring loaded
pull-chain door latch at each side, most with a chain between them which can
be reached through the grille. Pulling the chain down disengages the latch
on each side from its striker.

At least one owner installed electric door lock operators to extend and
retract similar latches.

Because of the need to bond mounting fixtures to the inside of the lids and
to fill the old operator holes, most do the mod just before painting.

Frank Jenkins' and Ray Bingham's coaches come to mind immediately -- look
for them both at DuQuoin.

Ken H.
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Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91742 is a reply to message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 23:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim K also has the hidden latches which have pull cable from inside coach and there is someone that has done a press and lock and press and release hood latch.

All three are shown on the photo site if you do a search.

Michael
Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91743 is a reply to message #91739] Mon, 12 July 2010 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very cool. Found them on LH site. A bit spendy, but may go that route after researching all options.

Thanks.

J

> From: bord@shaw.ca
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches
>
> ...J...
> I put in Leigh Harrison's (completely) hidden latches...
> love the look...completely smooth look!..Hot Rod Smooth!!
>
> I'd recommend this system all day long...wish I knew how to
> post picks of my coach...but I don't
>
> Dan
>
> PS you'll find leigh in the supplier list


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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91746 is a reply to message #91726] Mon, 12 July 2010 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Your red coach picture is the Jim Bounds kind and are $52 for 8 latches and
two keys. About a two hr job including paint touchup.

Jim R.

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Seen several coaches with front engine hatch latches either hidden or
recessed. I like the clean look. Anybody know how it's done?

Thanks...

some examples:

completely hidden:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31131&title=camaro-fro
nt-gmc&cat=7

recessed:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34908&title=recessed-l
atch&cat=5382

J
76 PB
Portland, OR

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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91751 is a reply to message #91746] Tue, 13 July 2010 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds good. Didn't find them on the Coop website, but I'll give them a call.

Thanks

J

> From: jmrountree@sbcglobal.net
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches
>
> Your red coach picture is the Jim Bounds kind and are $52 for 8 latches and
> two keys. About a two hr job including paint touchup.
>
> Jim R.
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91754 is a reply to message #91740] Tue, 13 July 2010 01:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go to our web site and go to the instruction section.
We also have kits for sale.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> I know of several GMCs with concealed latches. Most use a spring loaded
> pull-chain door latch at each side, most with a chain between them which
> can
> be reached through the grille. Pulling the chain down disengages the latch
> on each side from its striker.
>
> At least one owner installed electric door lock operators to extend and
> retract similar latches.
>
> Because of the need to bond mounting fixtures to the inside of the lids and
> to fill the old operator holes, most do the mod just before painting.
>
> Frank Jenkins' and Ray Bingham's coaches come to mind immediately -- look
> for them both at DuQuoin.
>
> Ken H.
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Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91764 is a reply to message #91726] Tue, 13 July 2010 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jim Wagner is currently offline  Jim Wagner   United States
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This is what I did.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3573

Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh
Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91795 is a reply to message #91746] Tue, 13 July 2010 11:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim Rountree wrote on Mon, 12 July 2010 23:36

Your red coach picture is the Jim Bounds kind and are $52 for 8 latches and
two keys. About a two hr job including paint touchup.

Jim R.

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Subject: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches



Seen several coaches with front engine hatch latches either hidden or
recessed. I like the clean look. Anybody know how it's done?

Thanks...

some examples:

completely hidden:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31131&title=camaro-fro
nt-gmc&cat=7

recessed:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34908&title=recessed-l
atch&cat=5382

J
76 PB
Portland, OR

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weren't those std. on later coaches?


Fred V
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91838 is a reply to message #91764] Tue, 13 July 2010 17:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Great photos, Jim. Thanks. I think that's the route I'll take. Curious about the safety catch. Am I guessing correctly to think that after you push to release, you have to reach under and use a finger to lift the safety catch to fully open the hatch?

And re filling and painting. The instructions on JK's site (http://www.appliedgmc.com/images/hidden_latch.pdf) say to sand the edges of the plugged hole, fill with fiberglass resin, then sand and fill with bondo, sand and paint. Did you do that? I've never done any body work. The part that confuses me is the resin then the bondo. Won't the bondo "bond" to the metal screw heads that plug the hole?

Thanks again.

J
76 PB
Portland, OR



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> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:23:49 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches
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>
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> This is what I did.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3573
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91855 is a reply to message #91838] Tue, 13 July 2010 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If you do not do it right, the hoe will show up later.



On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Great photos, Jim. Thanks. I think that's the route I'll take. Curious
> about the safety catch. Am I guessing correctly to think that after you push
> to release, you have to reach under and use a finger to lift the safety
> catch to fully open the hatch?
>
> And re filling and painting. The instructions on JK's site (
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/images/hidden_latch.pdf) say to sand the edges
> of the plugged hole, fill with fiberglass resin, then sand and fill with
> bondo, sand and paint. Did you do that? I've never done any body work. The
> part that confuses me is the resin then the bondo. Won't the bondo "bond" to
> the metal screw heads that plug the hole?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> J
> 76 PB
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > From: slwjmw@sbcglobal.net
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:23:49 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches
> >
> >
> >
> > This is what I did.
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91856 is a reply to message #91855] Tue, 13 July 2010 18:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Jul 13, 2010, at 7:52 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:

> If you do not do it right, the hoe will show up later.


Hmmm...

Tim Conway
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91857 is a reply to message #91795] Tue, 13 July 2010 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fred v wrote on Tue, 13 July 2010 10:46

Jim Rountree wrote on Mon, 12 July 2010 23:36

Your red coach picture is the Jim Bounds kind and are $52 for 8 latches and
two keys. About a two hr job including paint touchup.

Jim R.

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Subject: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches



Seen several coaches with front engine hatch latches either hidden or
recessed. I like the clean look. Anybody know how it's done?

Thanks...

some examples:

completely hidden:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=31131&title=camaro-fro
nt-gmc&cat=7

recessed:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=34908&title=recessed-l
atch&cat=5382

J
76 PB
Portland, OR

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weren't those std. on later coaches?




Nope


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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches (HOE)!!! [message #91861 is a reply to message #91855] Tue, 13 July 2010 19:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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...so,...if I'm understanding this correctly Jim,...If one does not
"DO IT RIGHT",...the HOE will show up !!...is that right ?
Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91864 is a reply to message #91726] Tue, 13 July 2010 20:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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J,
Yes, that is the way it works. I cut up a little glass matting and mixed with the resin. Then added filler to feather out.
Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh

Great photos, Jim. Thanks. I think that's the route I'll take. Curious about the safety catch. Am I guessing correctly to think that after you push to release, you have to reach under and use a finger to lift the safety catch to fully open the hatch?
Re: recessed/hidded hatch latches [message #91867 is a reply to message #91726] Tue, 13 July 2010 20:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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PS..Don't use these push to lock latches without the safety catch. The latches can be released by hitting a hard bump. I am going to add a piece of hard foam to keep tension on the latch to correct this problem.
Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh


Yes, that is the way it works. I cut up a little glass matting and mixed with the resin. Then added filler to feather out.
Jim Wagner
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Re: [GMCnet] recessed/hidded hatch latches (HOE)!!! [message #91870 is a reply to message #91861] Tue, 13 July 2010 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Yes, I see so many of these being done poorly and it starts showing up after
coulle years.
You need to understand that you need to have a very gradual bevel. This
gives more area for resen to bond to and when the resen rises or shrinks, it
is not noticable.
Going through college, I rebuilt wrecked Corvetts 63-67.
Proof to the pudding is after its been under the sun for couple years.

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