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PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90679] Thu, 01 July 2010 12:58 Go to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Does anyone use a PT Cruiser for a Tow?
Are there Advantages/Disadvantages that some might know of.
We do not want to have another vehicle, (4 now) and thought about replacing the Toyota Sienna with something somewhere near comparable, seats 4 and some carrying cargo room.
The PT weighs right at 3000 lbs, the Sienna is 4200+.
Appreciate your thoughts



Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90689 is a reply to message #90679] Thu, 01 July 2010 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I have a HHR which is 3100 lbs. Down side is you cannot exceed 65 mph and thats
not a problem for me. Blue Ox has the base plate you can get for about $225. Has
a lot of storage area.
 Wesley Chalk




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Does anyone use a PT Cruiser for a Tow?
Are there Advantages/Disadvantages that some might know of.
We do not want to have another vehicle, (4 now) and thought about replacing the
Toyota Sienna with something somewhere near comparable, seats 4 and some
carrying cargo room.
The PT weighs right at 3000 lbs, the Sienna is 4200+.
Appreciate your thoughts


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Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado


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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90691 is a reply to message #90689] Thu, 01 July 2010 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jknezek is currently offline  jknezek   United States
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Wesley - where do you see the HHR tow plate for $225? I've been seeing it for $305-$325 and am in the market.

Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90695 is a reply to message #90679] Thu, 01 July 2010 14:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jade is currently offline  jade   United States
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Richard;
We checked on getting a PT when looking for a toad.
Our Grandson worked for Chrys.and told us we had to install an oil pump for
the trans. if we wanted to tow it flat,
or we had to use a dolly.
He had a friend that worked at GM and talked us into an HHR which we bought
and have towed it flat for 4 years with no problems
JADE
72 23' ?/ 73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ
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>
>
> Does anyone use a PT Cruiser for a Tow?
> Are there Advantages/Disadvantages that some might know of.
> We do not want to have another vehicle, (4 now) and thought about
> replacing the Toyota Sienna with something somewhere near comparable,
> seats 4 and some carrying cargo room.
> The PT weighs right at 3000 lbs, the Sienna is 4200+.
> Appreciate your thoughts
>
>
> --
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> Punta Gorda, Florida
> 76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
> 94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado
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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90696 is a reply to message #90689] Thu, 01 July 2010 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jade is currently offline  jade   United States
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Wesley;
Check with Dave Lenzi on the 65 mph speed limit as he also tows an HHR.
He worked for GM and told me that they set 65 speed for all of their
vehicles with auto trans.
I tow faster than 65 a lot of times with no problems.
JADE
73 23' ?? 73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
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I have a HHR which is 3100 lbs. Down side is you cannot exceed 65 mph and
thats
not a problem for me. Blue Ox has the base plate you can get for about $225.
Has
a lot of storage area.
Wesley Chalk




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From: Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 12:58:14 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow



Does anyone use a PT Cruiser for a Tow?
Are there Advantages/Disadvantages that some might know of.
We do not want to have another vehicle, (4 now) and thought about replacing
the
Toyota Sienna with something somewhere near comparable, seats 4 and some
carrying cargo room.
The PT weighs right at 3000 lbs, the Sienna is 4200+.
Appreciate your thoughts


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Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado


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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90697 is a reply to message #90696] Thu, 01 July 2010 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wesley Chalk is currently offline  Wesley Chalk   United States
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Will do, thanks.
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From: Jim Decheine <jade@tabletoptelephone.com>
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Wesley;
Check with Dave Lenzi on the 65 mph speed limit as he also tows an HHR.
He worked for GM and told me that they set 65 speed for all of their
vehicles with auto trans.
I tow faster than 65 a lot of times with no problems.
JADE
73 23' ?? 73 26' Painted Desert
Ajo, AZ.
KC7QGC
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From: "Wesley Chalk" <chalkw@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow


I have a HHR which is 3100 lbs. Down side is you cannot exceed 65 mph and
thats
not a problem for me. Blue Ox has the base plate you can get for about $225.
Has
a lot of storage area.
Wesley Chalk




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From: Richard MacDonald <rm1936@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Thu, July 1, 2010 12:58:14 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow



Does anyone use a PT Cruiser for a Tow?
Are there Advantages/Disadvantages that some might know of.
We do not want to have another vehicle, (4 now) and thought about replacing
the
Toyota Sienna with something somewhere near comparable, seats 4 and some
carrying cargo room.
The PT weighs right at 3000 lbs, the Sienna is 4200+.
Appreciate your thoughts


--
Richard MacDonald
Punta Gorda, Florida
76 Edgemonte TZE 266V102313
94 K2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel Silverado


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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90713 is a reply to message #90697] Thu, 01 July 2010 16:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Richard, you can tow a PT Cruiser. Get the 5 speed and you won't have to worry about it, just hook up and go. We have the Vibe GT with 6 speed. It is 300 lbs lighter than the stated 3k for the PT. Not a problem one, at any speed.
Dan


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Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90721 is a reply to message #90679] Thu, 01 July 2010 16:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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5 speed Manual?

Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90759 is a reply to message #90721] Thu, 01 July 2010 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oldngray wrote on Thu, 01 July 2010 16:54

5 speed Manual?


Yes, clutch.
dan


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Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90797 is a reply to message #90759] Fri, 02 July 2010 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Did not know they had a stick shift, would be ok for me but not the Wife.


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90837 is a reply to message #90797] Fri, 02 July 2010 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

Check with Dave Lenzi on the 65 mph speed limit as he also tows an HHR. He worked for GM and told me that they set 65 speed for all of their vehicles with auto trans. I tow faster than 65 a lot of times with no problems.
JADE


I found out by accident that you can even tow an HHR in reverse for 600 miles with a problem.


John Sharpe
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Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90838 is a reply to message #90759] Fri, 02 July 2010 11:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WD0AFQ wrote on Thu, 01 July 2010 20:54

Oldngray wrote on Thu, 01 July 2010 16:54

5 speed Manual?


Yes, clutch.
dan



Automatics have clutches too Wink


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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90839 is a reply to message #90838] Fri, 02 July 2010 11:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kim David McNeill Sim is currently offline  Kim David McNeill Sim   United States
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Before I bought my HHR I checked and was told by the dealer there was no problem towing an HHR behind a motorhome, same info was in FMCA mag.
According to dealer I would not have to do anything or add anything to my HHR other then the normal towing package equipment

Kim

Kim and Pat Simmons
'76 Eleganza II
New Richmond, Ohio
TZE166V101526




On Jul 2, 2010, at 12:39 PM, Keith V wrote:

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> WD0AFQ wrote on Thu, 01 July 2010 20&#58;54
>> Oldngray wrote on Thu, 01 July 2010 16&#58;54
>>> 5 speed Manual?
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>> Yes, clutch.
>> dan
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> Automatics have clutches too ;)
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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90850 is a reply to message #90837] Fri, 02 July 2010 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to hear "the rest of the story " on that!
 Wesley Chalk




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Quote:
> Check with Dave Lenzi on the 65 mph speed limit as he also tows an HHR. He
>worked for GM and told me that they set 65 speed for all of their vehicles with
>auto trans. I tow faster than 65 a lot of times with no problems.
> JADE


I found out by accident that you can even tow an HHR in reverse for 600 miles
with a problem.
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Re: PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90875 is a reply to message #90679] Fri, 02 July 2010 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I use a PT cruiser for towing, auto trans. You must put in a lub pump.
from personal experience be shure the pump is plumed properly to pump fluid to the output side and not dumping into the pan.
It takes 2500 miles to destroy the trans, and $1900.00 to fix

Ed Geise
1976 glenbrook
marana AZ
Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90881 is a reply to message #90850] Fri, 02 July 2010 20:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to hear "the rest of the story " on that!
Wesley Chalk




Wesley, After I hook-up the tow bar, I back-up the HHR to lock at least one telescoping arm of the Blue Ox tow bar. In May I left Bean Station drove 500-600 miles to Topeka IN. When I went to start the HHR after it was disconnected from the coach, I discovered it was still in 'reverse'. I had neglected to shift it back into neutral before I stared towing.

I drove the HHR 1300 miles home and put another couple of thousand miles on it since then and it seems to work fine. I guess towing does not cause enough line pressure to apply the clutches.

Quote:

Before I bought my HHR I checked and was told by the dealer there was no problem towing an HHR behind a motorhome, same info was in FMCA mag.
According to dealer I would not have to do anything or add anything to my HHR other then the normal towing package equipment


You don't need the HHR 'tow package' to tow. However, you should remove the #8 fuse to avoid running the battery down. The key has to be left on for the steering wheel to be unlocked while it is being towed. Neither the sales or service departments at the dealer knew this but it is spelled out in the owners manual.


John Sharpe
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'40 Ford Panel Delivery TPI
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Re: [GMCnet] PT Cruiser as a Tow [message #90913 is a reply to message #90881] Sat, 03 July 2010 05:06 Go to previous message
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I purchased a switch out of Canada for the fuse, I will try to find out where
and let you know. Works great{until you granddaughter flips it and doesnt tell
you}.
 Wesley Chalk




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Sent: Fri, July 2, 2010 8:30:37 PM
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Quote:
> I would like to hear "the rest of the story " on that!
>  Wesley Chalk


Wesley,  After I hook-up the tow bar, I back-up the HHR to lock at least one
telescoping arm of the Blue Ox tow bar.  In May I left Bean Station drove
500-600 miles to Topeka IN.  When I went to start the HHR after it was
disconnected from the coach, I discovered it was still in 'reverse'.  I had
neglected to shift it back into neutral before I stared towing.


I drove the HHR 1300 miles home and put another couple of thousand miles on it
since then and it seems to work fine.  I guess towing does not cause enough line
pressure to apply the clutches.

Quote:
> Before I bought my HHR I checked and was told by the dealer there was no
>problem towing an HHR behind a motorhome, same info was in FMCA mag.
> According to dealer I would not have to do anything or add anything to my HHR
>other then the normal towing package equipment


You don't need the HHR 'tow package' to tow.  However, you should remove the #8
fuse to avoid running the battery down.  The key has to be left on for the
steering wheel to be unlocked while it is being towed.  Neither the sales or
service departments at the dealer knew this but it is spelled out in the owners
manual.
--
John Sharpe
Humble,TX
'40 Ford Deluxe TBI
'78 Eleganza TBI
'78 Royale TBI
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