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Sat, 26 June 2010 19:26  |
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Matt Colie
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I took the coach to Sault Saint Marie Michigan from the south. That requires crossing the Mackinac Bridge. We did that before and the toll was about (IIRC)1.50$ per axle (OK it was a rip-off for a GMC). Total of 4.50.
That was then.
This is now.
Motorhomes now have a special rate of 4.50 per axle (all motorhomes) and they have ZERO understanding that a GMC has a tandem as opposed to a dual axle). The 30k# pusher ahead of me paid 9$, I was charged 13.50$.
I am going to write a nice, but unfortunate letter to the Mackinaw Bridge Authority and tell them that neither I nor any other GMC owner is going to pay that fare if if can ever be avoided.
If I even get a response, I will expect it will do no good at all, but I AIN'T DOIN' THAT AGAIN.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90044 is a reply to message #90040] |
Sat, 26 June 2010 19:36  |
Keith V
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There must be some way to claim that there is only 1 axle, and that the wheels are for and aft rather than side by side...
The actual axle is what we call the bogie.
Like it's just a front / rear dually?
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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| Re: A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90045 is a reply to message #90040] |
Sat, 26 June 2010 19:39 |
jknezek
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I tried this argument on the FL turnpike. Even invited the toll collector to get out and take a look. Blocked the lane for a good long time and let me tell you there were some angry people behind me. Got nowhere. Wrote letter. Got nowhere. I wish you good luck.
Thanks,
Jeremy Knezek
1976 Glenbrook
Birmingham, AL
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| Re: [GMCnet] A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90047 is a reply to message #90040] |
Sat, 26 June 2010 19:35 |
Ken Henderson
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That kind of foolishness REALLY gets under my skin. I'm downright paranoid
about toll roads, especially those in the interstate system. Fortunately
that aversion fits nicely with my preference for secondary roads. I
usually tell GPS to calculate the shortest route, selecting vias which force
it miss interstates. I crossed most of the Cumberland Plateau on roads with
NO paint on them (fortunately SHE wasn't with me). :-)
Ken H.
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> I took the coach to Sault Saint Marie Michigan from the south. That
> requires crossing the Mackinac Bridge. We did that before and the toll was
> about (IIRC)1.50$ per axle (OK it was a rip-off for a GMC). Total of
> 4.50...
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| Re: [GMCnet] A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90056 is a reply to message #90053] |
Sat, 26 June 2010 20:21 |
Ken Henderson
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It's a whole new travel experience. On one little barely two lane Tennessee
road, I pulled over to let the following PU pass, since I was in no hurry.
The lady driving stopped to ask if she could help. :-) When's the last
time you enjoyed that kind of neighborliness on the interstate? Or anywhere
else?
Ken H.
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Roger Black <r1black@comcast.net> wrote:
> (fortunately SHE wasn't with me). :-)
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> Glad I wasn't either!!!!
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| Re: A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90092 is a reply to message #90040] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 01:46 |
idrob
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| mcolie wrote on Sat, 26 June 2010 17:26 |
I took the coach to Sault Saint Marie Michigan from the south. That requires crossing the Mackinac Bridge. We did that before and the toll was about (IIRC)1.50$ per axle (OK it was a rip-off for a GMC). Total of 4.50.
That was then.
This is now.
Motorhomes now have a special rate of 4.50 per axle (all motorhomes) and they have ZERO understanding that a GMC has a tandem as opposed to a dual axle). The 30k# pusher ahead of me paid 9$, I was charged 13.50$.
Matt
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Matt: I was traveling with friends, they had a motorhome, I had a truck and trailer. Same bridge you went over. I paid double what they did, as I had 4 axles, two on the truck, two on the trailer. They had two axles. I was a bit upset, but nothing will change they way they count things. Of course their motorhome out weighed me by probably 50%, but that is not the "system" they use.
Relax and enjoy the ride. The UP is nice in the summer. Now, campground fees... there is the real rip. LOL.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90095 is a reply to message #90040] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 04:59 |
Rusty
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Since we have EZpass here in the northeast, when I pay a toll in the coach I use a transponder associated with my car hence I pay a car toll with the coach. This works over the bridges in PA, NJ, DE, MD and VA. It didnt work in OH since they dont use it, or was that Indiana? EIther way until they get smarter with the transponders or sensors, I suppose I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa
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| Re: [GMCnet] A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90116 is a reply to message #90100] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 09:56 |
JimGunther
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| Steven Ferguson wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 08:57 |
Just buy a Quadrabag setup and lift two wheels while you pay your
toll. Think of how much you could save in tolls with a small,
$1,400.00 investment. That kind of math has put me in line for a G job.
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I expect you're kidding (a little) here Steve, HOWEVER, I THINK that is exactly what some trucks (heavy dump types) do. Pay toll based on number of axles/wheels wheels on the ground at the booth. I believe they count the number of "axles" in contact with the pavement.
Maybe another good reason to upgade to the Quadra.
IMHO: Sounds "whiny" to complain about toll disparity - Can you imagine how crazy it would be if the weighed every non-paseenger vehicle. Criminy that could create more union jobs than the so-called stimulus bill.
Jim Gunther
www.LotusV6.com
now former owner - ;(
73 GMC-II 2600
by Explorer
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| Re: A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90121 is a reply to message #90095] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 10:28 |
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JShot
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| Rusty wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 05:59 |
Since we have EZpass here in the northeast, when I pay a toll in the coach I use a transponder associated with my car hence I pay a car toll with the coach. This works over the bridges in PA, NJ, DE, MD and VA. It didnt work in OH since they dont use it, or was that Indiana? EIther way until they get smarter with the transponders or sensors, I suppose I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
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Rusty,
We use IPass from Illinois because they don't charge a monthly rental fee like Ohio does for their E-ZPass. Now Indiana (IZoom)and Ohio have the reciprocal agreement with Illinois, so our IPass works in all three states (and some on the East coast).
The problem is that there is a height sensor at the toll booths, I believe at 5', 7" that catches the GMC. When we use the transponder in the coach, which is just registered to our cars, it always charges more because of the height.
John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90123 is a reply to message #90121] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 10:36 |
Steven Ferguson
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I have my GPS and map program set for zero toll roads. I see more of
backroad America that way and don't get robbed every 20 miles.
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net> wrote:
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> Rusty wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 05:59
>> Since we have EZpass here in the northeast, when I pay a toll in the coach I use a transponder associated with my car hence I pay a car toll with the coach. This works over the bridges in PA, NJ, DE, MD and VA. It didnt work in OH since they dont use it, or was that Indiana? EIther way until they get smarter with the transponders or sensors, I suppose I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
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> Rusty,
> We use IPass from Illinois because they don't charge a monthly rental fee like Ohio does for their E-ZPass. Now Indiana (IZoom)and Ohio have the reciprocal agreement with Illinois, so our IPass works in all three states (and some on the East coast).
> The problem is that there is a height sensor at the toll booths, I believe at 5', 7" that catches the GMC. When we use the transponder in the coach, which is just registered to our cars, it always charges more because of the height.
> --
> John Shotwell
> Archbold, OH
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
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| Re: [GMCnet] A Bridge toll to reckon or avoid [message #90124 is a reply to message #90123] |
Sun, 27 June 2010 10:49 |
James Hupy
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Those toll bridges and roads back in the East have much to learn about
charging fees. They could learn much from the Washington State Ferry System.
I paid $39.00 for a 20 min ferry ride from Kingston to Edmonds Wa. Funny
thing, my GPS kept telling me "You are exceeding the speed limit" during the
entire ferry ride. Coach was stopped, ferry wasn't. Trip from Vashon to
Kingston I understand is $75.00. Didn't go there.
Jim Hupy
Salem, Or
1978 Royale 403
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> I have my GPS and map program set for zero toll roads. I see more of
> backroad America that way and don't get robbed every 20 miles.
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> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:28 AM, John Shotwell <jshot@rtecexpress.net>
> wrote:
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> > Rusty wrote on Sun, 27 June 2010 05:59
> >> Since we have EZpass here in the northeast, when I pay a toll in the
> coach I use a transponder associated with my car hence I pay a car toll with
> the coach. This works over the bridges in PA, NJ, DE, MD and VA. It didnt
> work in OH since they dont use it, or was that Indiana? EIther way until
> they get smarter with the transponders or sensors, I suppose I'll enjoy it
> while it lasts.
> >
> >
> > Rusty,
> > We use IPass from Illinois because they don't charge a monthly rental fee
> like Ohio does for their E-ZPass. Now Indiana (IZoom)and Ohio have the
> reciprocal agreement with Illinois, so our IPass works in all three states
> (and some on the East coast).
> > The problem is that there is a height sensor at the toll booths, I
> believe at 5', 7" that catches the GMC. When we use the transponder in the
> coach, which is just registered to our cars, it always charges more because
> of the height.
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> > John Shotwell
> > Archbold, OH
> > 78 Royale Center Kitchen
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> Steve Ferguson
> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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