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[GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90018] Sat, 26 June 2010 17:30 Go to next message
paul h cashman is currently offline  paul h cashman   United States
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Ken,
You must be paying the Preacher more than me.
I wasted about Five Hours, trying to get the Beads ,in one Wheel.
I tried a lot of things ,one was using an old Radio Antenna that would reach
past the threads of the Valve ,another a Straw inserted in the Valve
opening, nothing worked.
When you remove a Wheel and laying flat the Valve is about 45* ,the beads
still would no flow,.I tilted the Tire till the Valve was Vertical and they
still jammed and I had to Vibrate the Stem to make them flow.
Then I discovered, that if you lay the Tire in the Sun ,the air heats and
starts coming out the stem and if you poured the beads slow enough they
wouldn't jam ,you can see the beads being blown out of the stem and keeping
it cleared.
Paul Cashman
Riverdale GA


>
>
> Paul,
>
> When I first installed Counteract, I did it without removing the wheels.
> I
> just jacked up each wheel, let the air out, removed the Schrader valve and
> installed the Counteract with the stem near the ground. Then squirted
> some
> air into the the stem to clear the threads before reinstalling the valve
> and
> reinflating.
>
> I tried to use a big (horse size) syringe to inject the beads through a
> short tube that fit it and the valve stem. The beads didn't squirt real
> easy, but the syringe did make a pretty good funnel.
>
> Overall it was a LOT easier than removing the wheels and having them
> broken
> down to drop the bags inside.
>
> Ken H.
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Paul Cashman
> <paulcashman@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> Has anyone tried, to add the Beads ,with the Valve stem center at the
>> top
>> ,but still on the Coach. , with the Valve Stem held up ?
>> It's Hot here in Georgia and that would make the Job, a lot easier..
>> Paul Cashman
>> Riverdale GA
>>
>>
>

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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90019 is a reply to message #90018] Sat, 26 June 2010 17:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Coit is currently offline  Ken Coit   United States
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I understand a vibrator does wonders. Try your low speed sander against the
stem.

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Raleigh, NC
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90031 is a reply to message #90018] Sat, 26 June 2010 19:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Paul,

What kind of "beads" are you using? The Counteract I use consists of beads
so small that it's more like a powder. If you're using those WalMart balls
they keep talking about, you may have to force each one through the stem
with a punch, I'd think. :-)

Ken

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Paul Cashman <paulcashman@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Ken,
> You must be paying the Preacher more than me.
> I wasted about Five Hours, trying to get the Beads ,in one Wheel.
> I tried a lot of things ,one was using an old Radio Antenna that would
> reach
> past the threads of the Valve ,another a Straw inserted in the Valve
> opening, nothing worked.
> When you remove a Wheel and laying flat the Valve is about 45* ,the beads
> still would no flow,.I tilted the Tire till the Valve was Vertical and they
> still jammed and I had to Vibrate the Stem to make them flow.
> Then I discovered, that if you lay the Tire in the Sun ,the air heats and
> starts coming out the stem and if you poured the beads slow enough they
> wouldn't jam ,you can see the beads being blown out of the stem and keeping
> it cleared.
> Paul Cashman
> Riverdale GA
>
>
> >
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > When I first installed Counteract, I did it without removing the wheels.
> > I
> > just jacked up each wheel, let the air out, removed the Schrader valve
> and
> > installed the Counteract with the stem near the ground. Then squirted
> > some
> > air into the the stem to clear the threads before reinstalling the valve
> > and
> > reinflating.
> >
> > I tried to use a big (horse size) syringe to inject the beads through a
> > short tube that fit it and the valve stem. The beads didn't squirt real
> > easy, but the syringe did make a pretty good funnel.
> >
> > Overall it was a LOT easier than removing the wheels and having them
> > broken
> > down to drop the bags inside.
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Paul Cashman
> > <paulcashman@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >> Has anyone tried, to add the Beads ,with the Valve stem center at the
> >> top
> >> ,but still on the Coach. , with the Valve Stem held up ?
> >> It's Hot here in Georgia and that would make the Job, a lot easier..
> >> Paul Cashman
> >> Riverdale GA
> >>
> >>
> >
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90032 is a reply to message #90019] Sat, 26 June 2010 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

I understand a vibrator does wonders. Try your low speed sander against the stem.



I don't think so. Laughing


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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90037 is a reply to message #90031] Sat, 26 June 2010 19:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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You know, if I were going to do the job again on mounted tires, I think I'd
make a little pressurized canister. With a funnel shape toward an output
hose to fit the valve and an air hose coupler for inlet. Just 1 or 2 psi
(maybe from a vacuum cleaner) should safely push the beads into the tire --
I think.

Ken H.


On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:

> Paul,
>
> What kind of "beads" are you using? The Counteract I use consists of beads
> so small that it's more like a powder. If you're using those WalMart balls
> they keep talking about, you may have to force each one through the stem
> with a punch, I'd think. :-)
>
> Ken
> PS: Sorry I didn't trim the previous post; I really thought it was
> off-net. KH
>


> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Paul Cashman <paulcashman@bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>> You must be paying the Preacher more than me...
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90048 is a reply to message #90037] Sat, 26 June 2010 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Coit is currently offline  Ken Coit   United States
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Here's a link for the doubters:

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/service.htm#EZInstall

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Ken Coit, ND7N
Raleigh, NC
Parfait Royale
1978 Royale Rear Bath, 403, 3.07
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90089 is a reply to message #90048] Sun, 27 June 2010 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Burton is currently offline  Ken Burton   United States
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You guys are making it awful difficult. If you take the tire to Walmart, they will break the bead for free. Then simply pour in what ever amount you want and air it up again.

Walmart does not charge to break the bead or to even remove the tire from the sheel. They do charge to mount a tire on a wheel.

At least that is the way it is at my local Walmart.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90101 is a reply to message #90032] Sun, 27 June 2010 08:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Another job for the multi-tool. Heh, heh.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 5:07 PM, John Sharpe <johnasharpe@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> Quote:
>> I understand a vibrator does wonders. Try your low speed sander against the stem.
>
>
> I don't think so. :lol:
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Re: [GMCnet] Fw: ballenceing beads [message #90113 is a reply to message #90032] Sun, 27 June 2010 08:52 Go to previous message
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John Sharpe wrote on Sat, 26 June 2010 19:07

Quote:

I understand a vibrator does wonders. Try your low speed sander against the stem.



I don't think so. Laughing
.
i think he meant his wife's vibrator! LOL



Fred V
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P'cola, Fl
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