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1977Production#0001 is currently offline  1977Production#0001   United States
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This was the first time I realized how small and nimble the GMC's are compared with SOB. This is an old pic from FEB 2010 from ALL Wheel Brake/Alignment in Redding CA. This was our second stop in waking up Carbon Footprint from a 5 year hibernation with the PO. This shop has a GMC parts book on hand and a line to JimK if anyone needs service in Reding CA.

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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88690 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1977Production#0001 is currently offline  1977Production#0001   United States
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Monaco's are Expensive too: The Camelot on the left MSRP $226,000
and the Dynasty on the right MSRP $436,000. Overall height with OPTIONAL satellite is 12'11" YES... 12feet 11inches!


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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88695 is a reply to message #88690] Tue, 15 June 2010 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Teri and I live in our GMC for up to 4 months at a time. We kinda feel like apartment dwellers. The GMC is perfect size for two best friends who still enjoy meeting each other in the hallway.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Does RV Size matter? [message #88715 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> This was the first time I realized how small and nimble the GMC's are
> compared with SOB. This is an old pic from FEB 2010 from ALL Wheel
> Brake/Alignment in Redding CA.
>

we were on the Copper Canyon train with the GMC, when we were parked in
campgrounds, we looked just like that picture. I said to the wife
"we look like a cockroach" she told me not to say that, so we got the name
"grasshopper", and cricket.

http://gmcmotorhome.info/


the older I get the more I want a smaller rig (not like Songer) I find the
grand kids fit fine till they won't go with us any more (about 12 years
old).

All the Forrest and coastal campgrounds have a 19' limit here in Orgn, so I
went to a 23 (19' feet between the wheels ;>)

just my story
gene



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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88717 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 16:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It does to me, every time I see one of those huge SOB's the Driver looks so small, makes me think that Cannibals must have shrunk them. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy



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Dan,
You love birds enjoy the GMC.
Grace and I rub or back to back and belly to belly.


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Teri and I live in our GMC for up to 4 months at a time. We kinda feel like apartment dwellers. The GMC is perfect size for two best friends who still enjoy meeting each other in the hallway.
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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88730 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 18:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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the size gives us opportunities to be affectionate.


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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88734 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I guess it does. We stopped somewhere and were discussing RV travel with some humongus bus owners. One ask Mary how we get by without a toad. Said lady was astonished when Mary told her that we take the coach where ever we choose to go. How that, with the exception of parking structures (most have less than 10' clearance), we take it anyplace that they might choose to drive the Explorer that they drag along.

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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88736 is a reply to message #88734] Tue, 15 June 2010 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I looked at a lot of sobs before we bought the GMC. I was sure I would not have one longer than 32 foot after I drove a 40 ft pusher. Hated the feel of that thing on the road. I dont care how well an sob is made it will not drive like a GMC, that is "right". I am pretty sure that the GMC is cheaper to be fixed than any sob when a problem arrives. Try to get a car mechanic to work on a Diesel Pusher, won't happen.
Life is so good in a GMC and the owners, of other GMCs, make life that much brighter. No sob group will compare. I suspect the Airstream group is a good group for a bunch of trailer trash. Very Happy I have looked into some of the sob groups and none are as active or friendly, from what I could tell.
Would be a good guess that those who own both, GMC and sob, find the GMC groups the more to their liking. As I have said before, I no longer care about your GMC, so much, as I want to know how you and your family are doing. I got a GMC and will have it til I no longer need a motorhome, because of the group.
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Re: [GMCnet] Does RV Size matter? [message #88738 is a reply to message #88736] Tue, 15 June 2010 18:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,

None of the other groups could be anywhere near as friendly - you and Teri
are not in them! Well er, Teri anyway! ;-)

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
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USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gregg

Life is so good in a GMC and the owners, of other GMCs, make life that much
brighter. No sob group will compare. I have looked into some of the sob
groups and none are as active or friendly, from what I could tell.


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Re: [GMCnet] Does RV Size matter? [message #88740 is a reply to message #88738] Tue, 15 June 2010 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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LOL Rob.
Teri has always been friendly. I spent almost 30 years being known as a mean guy with no heart, convicts and their families.
So, I am getting a late start on this friendly thing.
Dan


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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88741 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A little bit off topic but .. the latest months Motorhome magazine that arrived in the mail the other day has a review of a brand new 25' 5" class A on the Sprinter chassis. It is an "A" not a "C" $141K and some. So you pay one of the Jims 70K-80K to do a GMC for you(I hope this is an in the ballpark price) with rebuilt 455 or 403, Manny tran, new diff gears, 4bagger suspension, snazzy interior, etc, and you use the other $60K-$70K over time to pay for the difference in gas mileage between the "Sprinter" A and the GMC. OK, so someone figure out how many miles to use up the $70K. They say the "Sprinter" gets 16 MPG.

$141K for 25' 5" WOW !!!!

DAV EKING


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Dave,
70K at $3 gal would purchase 23,333.33 gallons of gas. The GMC at 10
mph would travel 233,333.33 miles on that 70K. The Sprint at 16 would
travel 373,333.28 miles but they've already spent the 70K. For them
to travel the 233,333.33 miles as the GMC would cost an extra
$43,749.99 at regular gas prices. I think Diesel is a bit more so it
will just add to the figure.

Roger Black
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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88748 is a reply to message #88688] Tue, 15 June 2010 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I love this reasoning. I only ever find one flaw in it... you need 70K in cash, or a lot of home equity, to do the GMC route. Some idiot dealer is almost guaranteed to give you financing on the new A. One of the things I love about my GMC... pay as you go. One of the things I hate about my GMC, I can't actually pay as fast as I want to go...

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Jeremy Knezek
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....Too much information Jim......
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Jeremy, I think lots of folks are in that boat, or GMC. But, one can have the GMC now and work on it for a few years to get it where you desire. Took me two years to get to where I thought we could travel the USA without problems. Except for blowing the engine we have never had any problems that I could not deal with in an rv park or someplace. So, keep working on it. Yall have a nice coach already and you have only owned it a couple or 3 years. You are ahead of many of these guys here who have never taken their's out of the driveway.
Dan


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Re: Does RV Size matter? [message #88762 is a reply to message #88759] Tue, 15 June 2010 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On the other hand Dan... it's getting hard to take a trip these days without my wife saying something along the lines of... "remember that trip where we had to get off here because (you pick the mispronounced problem) broke?" I can say, though, that with the exception of our first trip (also our first wedding anniversary), we've made it home every time. As Jim B. says, they'll run broken... Wouldn't trade our GMC for the world. A few good months at work and we might even change out the final drive and get the HHR towable for my 10yr college reunion in VA this fall. This weekend we're off to Huntsville to see the Space and Rocket Museum. It's father's day, so this trip is my pick!

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Jeremy Knezek
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Re: [GMCnet] Does RV Size matter? [message #88769 is a reply to message #88762] Tue, 15 June 2010 21:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jeremy,

Fact is, that "...remember when..." routine is part of the fun and fond
memories for the entire family.

SHE and I, have them going back to '57 in my folk's travel trailer (which
I'd rebuilt from a rotted hulk) at Myrtle Beach; through our pop-up in the
Sierras and Oregon; the '76 Titan all over the SE; the '90 Airstream Land
Yacht all over the SW; the 40 SOB all over; and finally, best of all and
everywhere from Key West to Fairbanks, the GMC. They all had their quirks
and "problems" but we survived them all and wouldn't take anything for the
adventures. Your kids will love it all, just as ours did Just wish we were
out there collecting more right now!

Ken H.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Jeremy <jtknezek@hotmail.com> wrote:

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>
> On the other hand Dan... it's getting hard to take a trip these days
> without my wife saying something along the lines of... "remember that trip
> where we had to get off here because (you pick the mispronounced problem)
> broke?"...
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Yep, Teri and I have a few places out in Arizona that we pass and laugh about something that happened to us there in the GMC. You 2 and the baby are making memories that will last a lifetime. I have no doubt that someday yall will be the spokespersons for the GMC family. You are getting a headstart on many of us also. When I was your age I was working two jobs trying to feed two kids and put an exwife through college. I did not know what a vacation was much less a GMC. Now I have a beautiful wife and GMC and am on a permanant vacation. Life is good.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Does RV Size matter? [message #88784 is a reply to message #88747] Tue, 15 June 2010 23:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Interesting conversation and observations.

I think that after ten years I'll be ready to return to the GMC from the HR
because size does matter. Right now, for us, an office when on the road,
room for family eating in on rainy nights and not sleeping on a couch in the
hallway (Royale rear bath syndrome) isn't my cup of tea, so to speak. I'm
also getting too old to climb on the roof to get the chairs, mat, grill, and
bolo toss game. Basement storage is very appealing.

As to price -- you couldn't get me to buy a new motorhome regardless of the
brand. Let the wealthier of this world take the really big hit in value for
the first several years.

Now, as to clubs I can only tell you of my encounter with two Safari clubs
and a Freightliner group. Technical types in these clubs answered a lot of
questions I pitched their way. When asked, they looked for someone to check
out a coach for me. This tells me that people are people wherever you go --
some are helpful and some are not, some are friendly and some are soreheads.
Most people want to help if asked in the right way. In my opinion, brand of
coach has nothing to do with being friendly or not.

Anyone that looks down on a GMC owner is a foolish. Anyone that looks down
on the owner of an SOB is equally so. It's that thing about walking two
miles in someone else's sandals. Of course, it seems to be human nature to
want to talk about someone. As I learned a long time ago, every language has
a term for "hillbilly". It seems that those who live in the valley want to
look down on those that live in the hills.

Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen and
1997 Endeavor by Holiday Rambler/Freightliner/Caterpillar
Louisville, KY
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