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turboford is currently offline  turboford   United States
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I am new to this site and am presently
looking to purchase a GMC Motorhome.

What I need to know is, is there any special things that
I should look for when checking out one of these RV's ?

I have had a lot of experience with the drive train due to owning several
Oldsmobile's with the 455 and even two Tornado's that were front wheel drive.

every since I attended an RV show in LA when I was 12 years old I have been in love with the look of these classic Beauty's

Me and my wife are going to live in the RV year round but due to our both being disabled it will only be used for travel twice a year.

it is very important for me to get as much information as possible because the two vehicles I am presently looking at are going to be financed by the present owners which happen to be used car lots,
so I will not only be paying a premium but one of the of the ones I am looking at will be financed at a huge interest rate.

I have very little options as far as financing go so dealing with less than optimum financing options are unavoidable.
it is unfortunate but when I survived cancer my credit rating did not .lol

also I have seen several models with twin beds in the rear and we need a full or preferably a queen size bed is that an option that is model specific?

thanks in advance for your help

Re: New with many questions [message #88065 is a reply to message #88062] Fri, 11 June 2010 12:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1977Production#0001 is currently offline  1977Production#0001   United States
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Welcome good luck in the search! here are SOME of the potential GMC floorplans to choose from. There is also a rear bath floorplan with a mini bathtub.
http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/99flyer/26ftplans1.jpg

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/99flyer/26ftplans1.jpg


Giovanni(Carlo) 1977 GMC Kingsley 26ft "Carbon Footprint" Rear Twin, Dry Bath, Original Headliner

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Re: New with many questions [message #88072 is a reply to message #88065] Fri, 11 June 2010 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turboford is currently offline  turboford   United States
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thanks for the reply.after looking at the floor plans it seems that the double bed will be what we will get.
I am looking into a third option ,a 76 palm beach model with cool green shag carpeting.lol.

how well do these tow? I have a mustang that I like to take to shows that weighs about 3200 lbs ,I know the engine would have no problem pulling it but how well do the front drive GMC's do with a small trailer?

again thanks so much for the help
Re: New with many questions [message #88073 is a reply to message #88072] Fri, 11 June 2010 13:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1977Production#0001 is currently offline  1977Production#0001   United States
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turboford wrote on Fri, 11 June 2010 11:46

thanks for the reply.after looking at the floor plans it seems that the double bed will be what we will get.
I am looking into a third option ,a 76 palm beach model with cool green shag carpeting.lol.

how well do these tow? I have a mustang that I like to take to shows that weighs about 3200 lbs ,I know the engine would have no problem pulling it but how well do the front drive GMC's do with a small trailer?

again thanks so much for the help


To get the biggest bed you can convert the rear twins to a bed the full width of the coach bigger than a queen I think. Regarding the Towing...Use the search function to search the GMCnet. It ha many postings on towing including a guy that tows 2 cars and a golf cart. From what I have come across you need to change the final drive to successfully and reliably tow. I've heard towing with the stock final drive will toast the tranny. Again the search will find postings from the experts...


Giovanni(Carlo) 1977 GMC Kingsley 26ft "Carbon Footprint" Rear Twin, Dry Bath, Original Headliner

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Re: [GMCnet] New with many questions [message #88092 is a reply to message #88062] Fri, 11 June 2010 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Look at this information.

http://gmcmotorhome.info/buygmc.html

J.R. Wright

On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Robert wrote:

>
>
> I am new to this site and am presently
> looking to purchase a GMC Motorhome.
>
> What I need to know is, is there any special things that
> I should look for when checking out one of these RV's ?
>
> I have had a lot of experience with the drive train due to owning
> several
> Oldsmobile's with the 455 and even two Tornado's that were front
> wheel drive.
>
> every since I attended an RV show in LA when I was 12 years old I
> have been in love with the look of these classic Beauty's
>
> Me and my wife are going to live in the RV year round but due to our
> both being disabled it will only be used for travel twice a year.
>
> it is very important for me to get as much information as possible
> because the two vehicles I am presently looking at are going to be
> financed by the present owners which happen to be used car lots,
> so I will not only be paying a premium but one of the of the ones I
> am looking at will be financed at a huge interest rate.
>
> I have very little options as far as financing go so dealing with
> less than optimum financing options are unavoidable.
> it is unfortunate but when I survived cancer my credit rating did
> not .lol
>
> also I have seen several models with twin beds in the rear and we
> need a full or preferably a queen size bed is that an option that is
> model specific?
>
> thanks in advance for your help
>
>
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Re: New with many questions [message #88125 is a reply to message #88062] Fri, 11 June 2010 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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You may want to consider a larger more modern RV if you are both disabled and will full time and only move it a couple of times per year. In fact, a fifth wheel would be a good choice. the slides will give you more room for mobility. Also, it opens up your choices to more dealers, and better financing from the struggling RV industry. You may find a nice rig with less than 4% financing over 15 yrs.

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: [GMCnet] New with many questions [message #88138 is a reply to message #88062] Fri, 11 June 2010 20:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Robert,

Please consider very carefully whether the GMC is the right option for
you and your wife. Let there be no doubt in your mind: The 32+ year
old GMC is potentially (likely) a high-maintenance vehicle. With all
the features and expenses of a luxury automobile, plus all the
maintenance-prone features of a house, expenses are inevitable.

Don't be lulled into a false sense of security by your plan to only
move a couple of times per year; frequent use is much better for the
mechanical systems than is sitting idle. You'll very likely have
unanticipated and unpleasant surprises beginning at least one-half of
those trips. Unless you're able to do virtually all maintenance
yourself, you're likely to encounter problems getting reasonably
priced and reliable repair on the GMC -- not many mechanics are left
who are willing or capable of working on a vehicle of its age --
especially with it's being a motorhome, which immediately turns off a
lot of mechanics.

By your own admission, you're going to pay a premium interest rate for
the GMC you're considering; I suspect you'll be paying a premium price
also, at least for today's depressed market. The only salvation might
be if you're gettin a rock bottom price in exchange for the high
interest rate for tax purposes. There ARE less expensive options,
such as a 5th wheel trailer, for maintenance, insurance, and original
cost.

You are a remarkable couple if you can endure the tight quarters of
the GMC for full time living; we've spent many months at a time in a
40' motorhome with reasonably congeniality; one 4 month trip in the
GMC convinced us that 30 days is probably the maximum we should
attempt in the future. At the very least, you will probably find it
necessary to make unanticipated design changes to create a more
comfortable living environment -- the sofas and dinettes in GMCs are
not generally very comfortable for extended use.

After 52 years of RVing, including all versions, and 12 years with a
GMC, in your situation the GMC definitely would not be my choice given
your ground rules. And I haven't even started on (lack of) storage
space, the need to carry tools and spares, etc., etc., etc.

I really hate to discourage anyone from joining this august group, but
I can't in good conscience encourage, or fail to discourage, you in
this choice.

Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com



On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Robert <turbomustang84@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> I am new to this site and am presently
> looking to purchase a GMC Motorhome.
>
> What I need to know is, is there any special things that
> I should look for when checking out one of these RV's ?
>
> I have had a lot of experience with the drive train due to owning several
> Oldsmobile's with the 455 and even two Tornado's that were front wheel drive.
>
> every since I attended an RV show in LA when I was 12 years old I have been in love with the look of these classic Beauty's
>
> Me and my wife are going to live in the RV year round but due to our both being disabled it will only be used for travel twice a year.
>
> it is very important for me to get as much information as possible because the two vehicles I am presently looking at are going to be financed by the present owners which happen to be used car lots,
> so I will not only be paying a premium but one of the of the ones I am looking at will be financed at a huge interest rate.
>
> I have very little options as far as financing go so dealing with less than optimum financing options are unavoidable.
> it is unfortunate but when I survived cancer my credit rating did not .lol
>
> also I have seen several models with twin beds in the rear and we need a full or preferably a queen size bed is that an option that is model specific?
>
> thanks in advance for your help
>
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76 X-Birchaven
76 X-Palm Beach
Re: New with many questions [message #88252 is a reply to message #88062] Sat, 12 June 2010 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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well when considering a GMC motorhome I had given a lot of thought to size and comfort ,and I feel the size is plenty big enough for me ,my wife and our little dog .

and although fifth wheels are comfortable they can not fulfill the need I have to tow my mustang to car shows etc .
as far as getting a more modern motorhome it just dose not seem as practical financially to me .

I am looking at several GMC's from $7000 to $14000 and I like the drive train ,I have put nearly 750,000 miles on different cars with the 455 in it and personally have found them rock solid .

my real concern is the transmission ,even though I had a couple of Olds Tornado's with no trouble or problems with the transmissions .
it was a car and not a heavy motorhome .

what I am more concerned with are the the things I am not familiar with such as the suspension .

I also like the fact that the GMC is a purpose built vehicle and not a frame with the rest more of an afterthought.

plus I drive a turbocharged mustang convertible as a daily driver and that would not be considered the most practical of cars but I have always walked to the beat of a different drum.
so conformity has never been my strong suit.
Re: [GMCnet] New with many questions [message #88279 is a reply to message #88252] Sat, 12 June 2010 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ken Henderson is currently offline  Ken Henderson   United States
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Robert,

Welcome aboard! We'll help all we can. :-)

I wouldn't worry about the transmission. There are a lot of GMC's
towing toads heavier than your Mustang without trouble. If you ever
do have problems, Manny Trovao is Mr. 425 and will build you a
reliable one. You may, however, want to consider a higher ratio final
drive from Jim Kanomata's Applied GMC, or Manny's Powerdrive 3.50
chain drive.

Ken H.

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Robert <turbomustang84@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> well when considering a GMC motorhome I had given a lot of thought to size and comfort ,and I feel the size is plenty big enough for me ,my wife and our little dog .
>...
> so conformity has never been my strong suit...
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Re: New with many questions [message #88323 is a reply to message #88062] Sun, 13 June 2010 00:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My only advice is to not be fooled by the low buy-in price of these vehicles. They take a bit of care and that costs money. The cheap ones for sale are from owners unwilling to accept this truth. Someone has to spend the money and they decided it wasn't going to be them.

Randy
1973 26' Painted Desert
Ahwatukee (Phoenix) AZ
Re: New with many questions [message #88555 is a reply to message #88323] Mon, 14 June 2010 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
turboford is currently offline  turboford   United States
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well I had an unfortunate weekend,there was a 73 GMC for sale at a local RV dealership and I decided to bring my wife to see it to give her an idea of what they looked like.

I was hoping due to the listed price of $9998 that it would be in clean condition and it was far from that.
she did like some things about it but compared to others that I have seen I would rate this a 3 out of 10 and it would have served me better for my wife to have never seen this relic.

I did find out she likes the green palm beach model so if I can find one of those in decent shape I still might be able to get her to see it my way.

bummer
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There is a 78 Royal on Craigslist in Albuquerque for $22,999.
Should be in better shape if you want to try again.

http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/rvs/1789132560.html


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