Home » Public Forums » GMCnet » Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87830] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 08:27  |
Gary Cottingame
Messages: 85
Registered: January 2005
Karma: 0
|
Member |
|
|
Hupy
You got pictures to post to go with that explanation. (:^)
Thanks
Gary
73 26 CL
TZE21
Denison Tx
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:48 PM
I used a different solution on my 78 Royale. I replaced the 16.5" steel
wheels with 16" steel wheels from Chev & Gmc 1 Ton FRONT wheels. Up to 1999
or 2000 (before metric) They are hub centered, but with the front brake
calipers that I run on my coach, there was an interference problem. How I
solved this was to machine some aluminum wheel spacers that were the same
thickness as the extended part of the front hub. I pressed out the original
wheel studs and replaced them with 1/2" longer studs. I then machined a
piece of stainless steel equal in thickness to the wheel with the Outside
diameter about .002" smaller than the wheel Inside diameter. these stainless
pieces are attatched to the hub with Flathead screws with allen sockets. I
now have hub centered 16" steel wheels again. I had a very difficult time
getting the wheels to run true without the hub extensions. She runs 75 mph
now with no wheel shake. With sand blasting, powder coating, long studs,
spacers etc., I still am into it for less money than the Alcoas. But this
won't be everyone's cup of tea but it works for me. Jim Hupy
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> They make them already. They are called hub adapters. They are crap. (At
> least the plastic ones are).
>
> Harry wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 16:45
> > Someone could make a spacer ring to fit between the hub and the larger
> holed rim.
>
>
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra bag. The Engineer's
> Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
>
> Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87842 is a reply to message #87830] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 11:16  |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806
Registered: May 2010
Karma: -62
|
Senior Member |
|
|
I'll take some w/digital camera and send them to you off net because
attatchments don't seem to work consistently. Might be a couple of days. Jim
Hupy
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Hupy
>
> You got pictures to post to go with that explanation. (:^)
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary
> 73 26 CL
> TZE21
> Denison Tx
> --- On Tue, 6/8/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:48 PM
>
>
> I used a different solution on my 78 Royale. I replaced the 16.5" steel
> wheels with 16" steel wheels from Chev & Gmc 1 Ton FRONT wheels. Up to 1999
> or 2000 (before metric) They are hub centered, but with the front brake
> calipers that I run on my coach, there was an interference problem. How I
> solved this was to machine some aluminum wheel spacers that were the same
> thickness as the extended part of the front hub. I pressed out the original
> wheel studs and replaced them with 1/2" longer studs. I then machined a
> piece of stainless steel equal in thickness to the wheel with the Outside
> diameter about .002" smaller than the wheel Inside diameter. these
> stainless
> pieces are attatched to the hub with Flathead screws with allen sockets. I
> now have hub centered 16" steel wheels again. I had a very difficult time
> getting the wheels to run true without the hub extensions. She runs 75 mph
> now with no wheel shake. With sand blasting, powder coating, long studs,
> spacers etc., I still am into it for less money than the Alcoas. But this
> won't be everyone's cup of tea but it works for me. Jim Hupy
>
> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > They make them already. They are called hub adapters. They are crap. (At
> > least the plastic ones are).
> >
> > Harry wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 16:45
> > > Someone could make a spacer ring to fit between the hub and the larger
> > holed rim.
> >
> >
> > --
> > -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> > 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra bag. The Engineer's
> > Motorhome
> > Scottsdale, AZ
> >
> > Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87843 is a reply to message #87842] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 11:21 |
Gary Cottingame
Messages: 85
Registered: January 2005
Karma: 0
|
Member |
|
|
Are you not registered on bdubs photo site ?
Gary
TZE21
--- On Wed, 6/9/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:16 AM
> I'll take some w/digital camera and
> send them to you off net because
> attatchments don't seem to work consistently. Might be a
> couple of days. Jim
> Hupy
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> > Hupy
> >
> > You got pictures to post to go with that explanation.
> (:^)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gary
> > 73 26 CL
> > TZE21
> > Denison Tx
> > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:48 PM
> >
> >
> > I used a different solution on my 78 Royale. I
> replaced the 16.5" steel
> > wheels with 16" steel wheels from Chev & Gmc 1 Ton
> FRONT wheels. Up to 1999
> > or 2000 (before metric) They are hub centered, but
> with the front brake
> > calipers that I run on my coach, there was an
> interference problem. How I
> > solved this was to machine some aluminum wheel spacers
> that were the same
> > thickness as the extended part of the front hub. I
> pressed out the original
> > wheel studs and replaced them with 1/2" longer studs.
> I then machined a
> > piece of stainless steel equal in thickness to the
> wheel with the Outside
> > diameter about .002" smaller than the wheel Inside
> diameter. these
> > stainless
> > pieces are attatched to the hub with Flathead screws
> with allen sockets. I
> > now have hub centered 16" steel wheels again. I had a
> very difficult time
> > getting the wheels to run true without the hub
> extensions. She runs 75 mph
> > now with no wheel shake. With sand blasting, powder
> coating, long studs,
> > spacers etc., I still am into it for less money than
> the Alcoas. But this
> > won't be everyone's cup of tea but it works for me.
> Jim Hupy
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > They make them already. They are called hub
> adapters. They are crap. (At
> > > least the plastic ones are).
> > >
> > > Harry wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 16:45
> > > > Someone could make a spacer ring to fit
> between the hub and the larger
> > > holed rim.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> > > 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra
> bag. The Engineer's
> > > Motorhome
> > > Scottsdale, AZ
> > >
> > > Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
> > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87846 is a reply to message #87843] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 12:07 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806
Registered: May 2010
Karma: -62
|
Senior Member |
|
|
No, I will look into to doing that, I'm new to the GMCNet, basically since
Auburn, but with I guess I will have to become more computer literate as it
relates to attatchments and photo sharing.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Are you not registered on bdubs photo site ?
> Gary
> TZE21
>
> --- On Wed, 6/9/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:16 AM
> > I'll take some w/digital camera and
> > send them to you off net because
> > attatchments don't seem to work consistently. Might be a
> > couple of days. Jim
> > Hupy
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
> >
> > > Hupy
> > >
> > > You got pictures to post to go with that explanation.
> > (:^)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Gary
> > > 73 26 CL
> > > TZE21
> > > Denison Tx
> > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > I used a different solution on my 78 Royale. I
> > replaced the 16.5" steel
> > > wheels with 16" steel wheels from Chev & Gmc 1 Ton
> > FRONT wheels. Up to 1999
> > > or 2000 (before metric) They are hub centered, but
> > with the front brake
> > > calipers that I run on my coach, there was an
> > interference problem. How I
> > > solved this was to machine some aluminum wheel spacers
> > that were the same
> > > thickness as the extended part of the front hub. I
> > pressed out the original
> > > wheel studs and replaced them with 1/2" longer studs.
> > I then machined a
> > > piece of stainless steel equal in thickness to the
> > wheel with the Outside
> > > diameter about .002" smaller than the wheel Inside
> > diameter. these
> > > stainless
> > > pieces are attatched to the hub with Flathead screws
> > with allen sockets. I
> > > now have hub centered 16" steel wheels again. I had a
> > very difficult time
> > > getting the wheels to run true without the hub
> > extensions. She runs 75 mph
> > > now with no wheel shake. With sand blasting, powder
> > coating, long studs,
> > > spacers etc., I still am into it for less money than
> > the Alcoas. But this
> > > won't be everyone's cup of tea but it works for me.
> > Jim Hupy
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > They make them already. They are called hub
> > adapters. They are crap. (At
> > > > least the plastic ones are).
> > > >
> > > > Harry wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 16:45
> > > > > Someone could make a spacer ring to fit
> > between the hub and the larger
> > > > holed rim.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> > > > 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra
> > bag. The Engineer's
> > > > Motorhome
> > > > Scottsdale, AZ
> > > >
> > > > Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
> > > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GMCnet mailing list
> > > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >
> _______________________________________________
> GMCnet mailing list
> List Information and Subscription Options:
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87849 is a reply to message #87846] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 12:27 |
Carl S.
Messages: 4186
Registered: January 2009
Location: Tucson, AZ.
Karma: 13
|
Senior Member |
|
|
James,
It took me a year to figure out how to post on the photo site. I still don't have it right, as I have not sorted my photos into albums. I'll have to work on that next. It's really pretty easy. Just get someone to show you how to do an attachment and you're there.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
|
|
|
|
| Re: [GMCnet] RIMS [message #87850 is a reply to message #87846] |
Wed, 09 June 2010 12:38 |
James Hupy
Messages: 6806
Registered: May 2010
Karma: -62
|
Senior Member |
|
|
I do have further info about the wheels I used though. The later wheels (not
the ones I used) have countersinking on the lug stud holes and are intended
for use with lug nuts that have a bevel that matches the countersink on the
wheel which aligns and somewhat centers the wheel on the centerline of the
stud base circle. Whether the hub center and the stud base circle are
concentric in all MH applications is anyones guess, but being a person who
measures to be sure before he assumes this, I would bet not in all. I have
seen aftermarket aluminum wheels that use this same system. With many
manufacturers of front hubs both foreign and domestic and various dimensions
of hub flanges, wheel manufacturers have gone to a larger Inside diameter to
overcome these differences and have come up with the tapered lug studs to
compensate. The tapered lug nuts that I have encountered do not have a very
large clamping flange compared to the stock GMC MH lug nuts. I don't know if
these tapers contribute to aluminum wheel crack failures, but I wouldn't be
surprised if this happened if the tapers remained tight after the small
clamping flange reached intimate contact with the wheel. On another note, I
have a long time friend (50 years and counting) whom I have purchased tires
and wheels from over the years who has a Tire Store. He looked through a
considerable stack of wheels for me before we came up with 7 similar wheels
that were designed for use with radial tires (they are stamped with the word
radial on the inside of the wheel next to the weld seam). Not everyone has
the same access to a supply as I do here in Salem, OR. That's why I said
this might not work for everyone. The wheels that I used are hub centered
and the lug stud holes are straight through bores, not countersunk. I hope
this clarifies the application somewhat.
Jim Hupy
1978 Royale
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:07 AM, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, I will look into to doing that, I'm new to the GMCNet, basically since
> Auburn, but with I guess I will have to become more computer literate as it
> relates to attatchments and photo sharing.
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Are you not registered on bdubs photo site ?
>> Gary
>> TZE21
>>
>> --- On Wed, 6/9/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
>> > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> > Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 11:16 AM
>> > I'll take some w/digital camera and
>> > send them to you off net because
>> > attatchments don't seem to work consistently. Might be a
>> > couple of days. Jim
>> > Hupy
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:27 AM, Gary Cottingame <gcottingame@yahoo.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hupy
>> > >
>> > > You got pictures to post to go with that explanation.
>> > (:^)
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > Gary
>> > > 73 26 CL
>> > > TZE21
>> > > Denison Tx
>> > > --- On Tue, 6/8/10, James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: James Hupy <jamesh1296@gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: [GMCnet] RIMS
>> > > To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> > > Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:48 PM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I used a different solution on my 78 Royale. I
>> > replaced the 16.5" steel
>> > > wheels with 16" steel wheels from Chev & Gmc 1 Ton
>> > FRONT wheels. Up to 1999
>> > > or 2000 (before metric) They are hub centered, but
>> > with the front brake
>> > > calipers that I run on my coach, there was an
>> > interference problem. How I
>> > > solved this was to machine some aluminum wheel spacers
>> > that were the same
>> > > thickness as the extended part of the front hub. I
>> > pressed out the original
>> > > wheel studs and replaced them with 1/2" longer studs.
>> > I then machined a
>> > > piece of stainless steel equal in thickness to the
>> > wheel with the Outside
>> > > diameter about .002" smaller than the wheel Inside
>> > diameter. these
>> > > stainless
>> > > pieces are attatched to the hub with Flathead screws
>> > with allen sockets. I
>> > > now have hub centered 16" steel wheels again. I had a
>> > very difficult time
>> > > getting the wheels to run true without the hub
>> > extensions. She runs 75 mph
>> > > now with no wheel shake. With sand blasting, powder
>> > coating, long studs,
>> > > spacers etc., I still am into it for less money than
>> > the Alcoas. But this
>> > > won't be everyone's cup of tea but it works for me.
>> > Jim Hupy
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > They make them already. They are called hub
>> > adapters. They are crap. (At
>> > > > least the plastic ones are).
>> > > >
>> > > > Harry wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 16:45
>> > > > > Someone could make a spacer ring to fit
>> > between the hub and the larger
>> > > > holed rim.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
>> > > > 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD, Quadra
>> > bag. The Engineer's
>> > > > Motorhome
>> > > > Scottsdale, AZ
>> > > >
>> > > > Photosite: Chrisc "It has Begun"
>> > > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > > > GMCnet mailing list
>> > > > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> > > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>> > > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > GMCnet mailing list
>> > > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> > >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>
>
>
_______________________________________________
GMCnet mailing list
List Information and Subscription Options:
http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Goto Forum:
Current Time: Wed Oct 09 01:26:27 CDT 2024
Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01099 seconds
|
GMCforum
Search
Help
Register
Login
Home
