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| Stupid Royale [message #84759] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 20:35  |
Keith V
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I guess I shoulda read more about rear mufflers.
I thought the flowmaster 70 was a no brainer.
Well, NOT in a Royale!
The muffler can be made to fit, and it would be fine if it wern't for the 1/2" clearance to the plastic gray tank.
Dang it anyway.
So I ordered the round muffler from Jim K. Hope it's not too loud...
Anyone want a good deal on a flowmaster 70, never used?
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: Stupid Royale [message #84765 is a reply to message #84759] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 20:59  |
fred v
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put a heat shield next to it no matter which muffler you use.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale [message #84941 is a reply to message #84759] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 10:48 |
Ray Erspamer
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I hear ya Keith.....I was all set to order the muffler and parts and I measured the clearance......I have just short of 10" from the waste tank to the inside of the frame rail. Still thinking of what direction to go on this.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sat, May 15, 2010 8:35:54 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
I guess I shoulda read more about rear mufflers.
I thought the flowmaster 70 was a no brainer.
Well, NOT in a Royale!
The muffler can be made to fit, and it would be fine if it wern't for the 1/2" clearance to the plastic gray tank.
Dang it anyway.
So I ordered the round muffler from Jim K. Hope it's not too loud...
Anyone want a good deal on a flowmaster 70, never used?
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Keith
69 Vette
29 Dodge
75 Royale GMC
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| Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale [message #84961 is a reply to message #84957] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 12:19 |
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If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
sparkchaser wrote:
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> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
> the engine.
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> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
> it.
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> Just a thought.
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> Dennis & Pia Lepard
> Depew, NY
> '76 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #84971 is a reply to message #84966] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 12:45 |
Ray Erspamer
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Any medium weight aluminum or galvanized sheet metal will make a good heat shield. Available in sheets at Lowes or Home Depot. Usually about the thickness of home heating duct material.
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27:52 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
Just wondering if those flexible baking sheets
(for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
They will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
oven and I believe they come in different sizes.
* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *
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> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
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> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
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>
> sparkchaser wrote:
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>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
>> the engine.
>>
>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
>> it.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>> Depew, NY
>> '76 Palm Beach
>> _______________________________________________
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78 GMC Royale Center Kitchen
403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #84973 is a reply to message #84966] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 12:59 |
Ken Burton
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| k2gkk wrote on Mon, 17 May 2010 12:27 |
Just wondering if those flexible baking sheets
(for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
They will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
oven and I believe they come in different sizes.
* Mac Macdonald *
* Oklahoma City *
** "Money Pit" **
* '76 ex - P.B. *
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Flowmaster already makes a heat shield for that muffler. Just order the one that goes on it rather than trying rig something else up.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #84976 is a reply to message #84973] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 13:32 |
Keith V
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Ray I had 12" thought, ok it's close, but it should work..
Put it in and nope, way too close, there is no way that tank would not melt.
I'll post my thoughts on the 6" muffler volume when I get it in and running.
Since I have a bunch of 22 gauge steel I'm going to use that for a heat shield.
It will be 2 layers separated by an airspace. The metal will be bent to protect the floor and the tank. There will be 3 air spaces. 1 between the muffler and the first shield, another between the shield and the third between the shield and the flooring.
That, the bottom of the flooring being aluminum and Jims 6" round muffler and we should be good to go.
Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
My427v8@hotmail.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #84980 is a reply to message #84969] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 14:27 |
Ray Erspamer
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Just buy new ones vs stealing the wife's out of the kitchen cabinets..........don't want to cause any trouble at home ! LOL
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: "dennisfsexton@aol.com" <dennisfsexton@aol.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:37:10 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood floor...
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA
-----Original Message-----
From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
* Mac Macdonald *
Oklahoma City *
* "Money Pit" **
'76 ex - P.B. *
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Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
sparkchaser wrote:
>
>
> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
> the engine.
>
> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
> it.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Dennis & Pia Lepard
> Depew, NY
> '76 Palm Beach
> _______________________________________________
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403, 3.70 Final Drive
Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #84981 is a reply to message #84976] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 14:29 |
Ray Erspamer
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post some pictures when you're finished Keith, I'd like to see them !
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 1:32:30 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
Ray I had 12" thought, ok it's close, but it should work..
Put it in and nope, way too close, there is no way that tank would not melt.
I'll post my thoughts on the 6" muffler volume when I get it in and running.
Since I have a bunch of 22 gauge steel I'm going to use that for a heat shield.
It will be 2 layers separated by an airspace. The metal will be bent to protect the floor and the tank. There will be 3 air spaces. 1 between the muffler and the first shield, another between the shield and the third between the shield and the flooring.
That, the bottom of the flooring being aluminum and Jims 6" round muffler and we should be good to go.
--
Keith
69 Vette
29 Dodge
75 Royale GMC
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Holley Sniper Quadrajet EFI System,
Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
414-484-9431
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85050 is a reply to message #84969] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 23:34 |
jimk
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Anyone that thinks that a shield is not needed on a tight fit
situation is taking there chances.
We have been supplying the Hush Power on the rear kit for less than a
year with out the shields as Flow Master insists that they have a
built in insulation on these round style muffler.
We know we supply the shields automatically on the other mufflers.
Not sure, but we have been selling these same kit for over 5 years.We
must have over 60 units running.
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
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> Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood floor...
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
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>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>
>
>
> ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
> for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
>
> hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
> ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
>
> * Mac Macdonald *
> Oklahoma City *
> * "Money Pit" **
> '76 ex - P.B. *
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
>
> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> sparkchaser wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
>> the engine.
>>
>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
>> it.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>> Depew, NY
>> '76 Palm Beach
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85051 is a reply to message #85050] |
Mon, 17 May 2010 23:43 |
jimk
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The shield we supply with the kit is from Flow Master and fits very
well and costs arounf $23 with four straps
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone that thinks that a shield is not needed on a tight fit
> situation is taking there chances.
> We have been supplying the Hush Power on the rear kit for less than a
> year with out the shields as Flow Master insists that they have a
> built in insulation on these round style muffler.
> We know we supply the shields automatically on the other mufflers.
> Not sure, but we have been selling these same kit for over 5 years.We
> must have over 60 units running.
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood floor...
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
>>
>>
>> Dennis Sexton
>> 73 GMC
>> Germantown, TN
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>>
>>
>>
>> ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
>> for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
>>
>> hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
>> ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
>>
>> * Mac Macdonald *
>> Oklahoma City *
>> * "Money Pit" **
>> '76 ex - P.B. *
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
>> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
>>
>> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
>> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
>> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
>> Louisville, KY
>> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>>
>>
>> sparkchaser wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
>>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
>>> the engine.
>>>
>>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>>> Depew, NY
>>> '76 Palm Beach
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>
>>
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> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
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http://www.appliedgmc.com
1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85089 is a reply to message #85050] |
Tue, 18 May 2010 10:15 |
Ray Erspamer
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Jim, what are the dimensions of the round muffler and how does it compare in sound to the 70 series ???
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:34:30 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
Anyone that thinks that a shield is not needed on a tight fit
situation is taking there chances.
We have been supplying the Hush Power on the rear kit for less than a
year with out the shields as Flow Master insists that they have a
built in insulation on these round style muffler.
We know we supply the shields automatically on the other mufflers.
Not sure, but we have been selling these same kit for over 5 years.We
must have over 60 units running.
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood floor...
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
>
>
> Dennis Sexton
> 73 GMC
> Germantown, TN
> USA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
> Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>
>
>
> ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
> for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
>
> hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
> ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
>
> * Mac Macdonald *
> Oklahoma City *
> * "Money Pit" **
> '76 ex - P.B. *
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
>
> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>
> Byron Songer
> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
> Louisville, KY
> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>
>
>
> sparkchaser wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
>> the engine.
>>
>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
>> it.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>> Depew, NY
>> '76 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85121 is a reply to message #85089] |
Tue, 18 May 2010 13:40 |
jimk
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Ray, the dimensions are:6"dia., 16" body length wit 2" on both ends.
I is louder than the original 53074.
I was told by the factory rep that it would be quieter, instead it is
louder. Several have not complained as you do not hear it in the coach
as the skin is made out of heavy gauge steel.
I just got off the phone with him and he wants me to see if we can
install a 9"dia. , 20"body unit in the coach.
It will not need a shield as the Hush Power has a built in shield.
The feel that this larger one will be quieter.
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
> Jim, what are the dimensions of the round muffler and how does it compare in sound to the 70 series ???
>
> Ray
>
>
> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:34:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>
> Anyone that thinks that a shield is not needed on a tight fit
> situation is taking there chances.
> We have been supplying the Hush Power on the rear kit for less than a
> year with out the shields as Flow Master insists that they have a
> built in insulation on these round style muffler.
> We know we supply the shields automatically on the other mufflers.
> Not sure, but we have been selling these same kit for over 5 years.We
> must have over 60 units running.
>
>
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood floor...
>>
>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
>>
>>
>> Dennis Sexton
>> 73 GMC
>> Germantown, TN
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
>> Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>>
>>
>>
>> ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
>> for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
>>
>> hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
>> ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
>>
>> * Mac Macdonald *
>> Oklahoma City *
>> * "Money Pit" **
>> '76 ex - P.B. *
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
>> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
>>
>> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The Garman's coach
>> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there was no heat
>> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>>
>> Byron Songer
>> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
>> Louisville, KY
>> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>
>>
>>
>> sparkchaser wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the temp of the
>>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being that far from
>>> the engine.
>>>
>>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and wouldn't trade
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Just a thought.
>>>
>>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>>> Depew, NY
>>> '76 Palm Beach
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85124 is a reply to message #85121] |
Tue, 18 May 2010 13:50 |
emerystora
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Jim
Are those 2" on the ends or 3"?
I thought you had these for the 3" system.
Emery Stora
On May 18, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Ray, the dimensions are:6"dia., 16" body length wit 2" on both ends.
> I is louder than the original 53074.
> I was told by the factory rep that it would be quieter, instead it is
> louder. Several have not complained as you do not hear it in the coach
> as the skin is made out of heavy gauge steel.
> I just got off the phone with him and he wants me to see if we can
> install a 9"dia. , 20"body unit in the coach.
> It will not need a shield as the Hush Power has a built in shield.
> The feel that this larger one will be quieter.
>
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net>
> wrote:
>> Jim, what are the dimensions of the round muffler and how does it
>> compare in sound to the 70 series ???
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
>> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
>> TZE368V101144
>> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
>> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
>> 414-745-3188
>> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 11:34:30 PM
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>>
>> Anyone that thinks that a shield is not needed on a tight fit
>> situation is taking there chances.
>> We have been supplying the Hush Power on the rear kit for less than a
>> year with out the shields as Flow Master insists that they have a
>> built in insulation on these round style muffler.
>> We know we supply the shields automatically on the other mufflers.
>> Not sure, but we have been selling these same kit for over 5 years.We
>> must have over 60 units running.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:37 AM, <dennisfsexton@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Kelvin has some installed... earlier coach with solid plywood
>>> floor...
>>>
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=25884&title=walmart-cookie-sheets&cat=4989
>>>
>>>
>>> Dennis Sexton
>>> 73 GMC
>>> Germantown, TN
>>> USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Sent: Mon, May 17, 2010 12:27 pm
>>> Subject: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ust wondering if those flexible baking sheets
>>> for cookies and such) would make a good shield?
>>>
>>> hey will withstand over 350F temperatures in an
>>> ven and I believe they come in different sizes.
>>>
>>> * Mac Macdonald *
>>> Oklahoma City *
>>> * "Money Pit" **
>>> '76 ex - P.B. *
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------
>>> Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:19:56 -0400
>>> From: bsonger@songerconsulting.net
>>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Stupid Royale
>>>
>>> If you move the muffler be smart and put a shield in. The
>>> Garman's coach
>>> burned because the muffler had been moved farther back and there
>>> was no heat
>>> shield. After 3500 miles of so conditions were right to do harm.
>>>
>>> Byron Songer
>>> 1978 Royale by Coachmen
>>> Louisville, KY
>>> Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
>>> Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> sparkchaser wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Have any of those who have the rear muffler set up checked the
>>>> temp of the
>>>> muffler? It seems top me that it would be somewhat cooler being
>>>> that far from
>>>> the engine.
>>>>
>>>> I have had the Jim K rear muffler exhaust for 2 years now and
>>>> wouldn't trade
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Just a thought.
>>>>
>>>> Dennis & Pia Lepard
>>>> Depew, NY
>>>> '76 Palm Beach
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Muffler Heat Shields (Was: RE: Stupid Royale) [message #85126 is a reply to message #85121] |
Tue, 18 May 2010 14:29 |
Keith V
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The problem with a larger one is going to be how to get the exhaust pipe over 1.5" to connect to the muffler.
My backup plan if to buy a resonator to put up front in the dogleg.
But maybe a second 6" muffler would be better there??
| jimk wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 13:40 |
Ray, the dimensions are:6"dia., 16" body length wit 2" on both ends.
I is louder than the original 53074.
I was told by the factory rep that it would be quieter, instead it is
louder. Several have not complained as you do not hear it in the coach
as the skin is made out of heavy gauge steel.
I just got off the phone with him and he wants me to see if we can
install a 9"dia. , 20"body unit in the coach.
It will not need a shield as the Hush Power has a built in shield.
The feel that this larger one will be quieter.
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Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
ask me about MicroLevel
Cell, 763-732-3419
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