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Sat, 15 May 2010 07:10  |
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Matt Colie
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As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul, we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked wheel.)
I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I haven't seen one recently.
Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE owner hopes to never need?
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
Electronically Controlled Quiet Engine Cooling Fan with OE Rear Drum Brakes with Applied Control Arms
SE Michigan - Near DTW - Twixt A2 and Detroit
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84658 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 07:25  |
Steven Ferguson
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Matt,
About the best thing out there that I've seen is the jack hook that
Jim K stocks. It works on the rears and is notched to work in the
front. You only need one of these and a bottle jack to change a front
or a rear tire.
Here's a pic:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul, we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked wheel.)
> I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
> I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
> Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I haven't seen one recently.
> Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE owner hopes to never need?
>
> Matt
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> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84660 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 07:27 |
Mr ERFisher
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This jack hook is by far the best thing going to change a front tire or
raise the front of a GMC just enough. It is sold by JimK
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625
this describes how it works.
http://appliedgmc.com/images/bottlejackadaptor.pdf
Read to the bottom , because cool thing is , this jack hook, works on the
front and the rear. But there is no safer or easier way (esp. on the side
of the road) to change a tire , or just support the GMC just enough go
get-er-done.
The any small bottle jack should do the trick ( 2 ton per wheel).
I would not travel with out it (thanks JimK)
JWID
gene
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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> As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul,
> we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked
> wheel.)
> I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
> I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a
> 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
> Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I
> haven't seen one recently.
> Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE
> owner hopes to never need?
>
> Matt
> --
> Matt & Mary Colie
> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84664 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 08:13 |
emerystora
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On May 15, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Matt Colie wrote:
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> As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul, we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked wheel.)
> I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
> I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
> Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I haven't seen one recently.
> Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE owner hopes to never need?
>
> Matt
>
People solve this problem in various ways. I carry a very short 2 ton jack and a taller 6 ton jack. I can get the squat 2 ton under the front cross member even with a flat tire. I raise it enough to get the 6 ton under and that will raise the GMC enough to change a tire
For the rear, again I can get the 2 ton under the side edge of bogie mount and raise it enough to get my jack hook and 6 ton under the bogie support.
By moving my propane tank rearward some (pictures are on the gmcmhphotos site) I can store both jacks in front of my propane tank That is in a 26 foot. i don't know if that works for a 23.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84671 is a reply to message #84660] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 08:50 |
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Way cool. Need one. Will get one.
JimK needs an artist. :>)
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Mr.erf ERFisher wrote:
> This jack hook is by far the best thing going to change a front tire or
> raise the front of a GMC just enough. It is sold by JimK
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> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625
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> this describes how it works.
>
> http://appliedgmc.com/images/bottlejackadaptor.pdf
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> Read to the bottom , because cool thing is , this jack hook, works on the
> front and the rear. But there is no safer or easier way (esp. on the side
> of the road) to change a tire , or just support the GMC just enough go
> get-er-done.
>
> The any small bottle jack should do the trick ( 2 ton per wheel).
>
> I would not travel with out it (thanks JimK)
> JWID
> gene
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> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
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>> As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul,
>> we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked
>> wheel.)
>> I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
>> I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a
>> 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
>> Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I
>> haven't seen one recently.
>> Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE
>> owner hopes to never need?
>>
>> Matt
>> --
>> Matt & Mary Colie
>> '73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
>> SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
>> _______________________________________________
>> GMCnet mailing list
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>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84673 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 09:04 |
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USAussie
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Matt,
I carry two Ford truck jacks, two bogie hooks, and two aluminum plates in
Double Trouble. I use them to stabilize and level the GMC when we're camped
for more than a night or two. I have never tried them on flat front tire so
I don't know if they would work.
If I had to do it again I would buy this jack:
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200318933_200318933
Disregard the 2 ton rating on the photo, this part number is a 4 ton.
And this hook:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625
I also carry two 3 ton jack stands in case I need to crawl under the GMC.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry
As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul, we
needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked wheel.)
I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a 23,
that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I
haven't seen one recently.
Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE
owner hopes to never need?
Matt
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Matt & Mary Colie
'73 Glacier 23 Chaumiere (say show-me-air)
SE Michigan - DTW 3.2/4R
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84674 is a reply to message #84671] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 09:06 |
Don A
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Maybe the instructions should include that after the rear weight is supported to let off the air bag pressure and insert something the stop the drop of the wheel to the avoid stretching out the shock.
Seems a shame you can't jack a front wheel from under the a arm just enough to raise the wheel off the ground without lifting the whole front end.
Don Adams Dallas, TX
'76 26' Glenbrook, '90 Sidekick
rebuilt by R Archer, powered by J Bounds, Koba
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84695 is a reply to message #84692] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 10:32 |
emerystora
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On May 15, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Bob Horton wrote:
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> I carry a jack hook and bottle jack but other posts have stated that jacking up the front from one side rather than the middle can break a windshield. Hence I have been reluctant to jack from anywhere in the front except the middle. What experiences have others had???
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> " Gene said
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> Read to the bottom , because cool thing is , this jack hook, works on the front and the rear. But there is no safer or easier way (esp. on the side of the road) to change a tire , or just support the GMC just enough go get-er-done.
> The any small bottle jack should do the trick ( 2 ton per wheel)."
>
> Gene"
>
> Bob Horton
> Brandon
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Bob
I had bought my 77 GMC back in 1981. This was before I heard anyone say that jacking one side could break my windshield. I have jacked it on one side of the front crossmember many times and had also used the OEM long jack on the bumper on one side many, many times. I continue to jack just one side today and I have never cracked my windshield.
What I found, however, was that the frame was so stiff that if I jacked on one side in the front it also raised the other front wheel from the ground.
I am not doubting what some people had had occur with the windshield cracking but there is probably a large difference in frame stiffness from one GMC to the other.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84696 is a reply to message #84692] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 10:41 |
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A my local Big-O I just had new tires mounted on the new Eagles. I warned
them about the windshield. The response was they knew what they were doing.
The jacked the left front from behind the wheel at that point where the
bolts are located. They had at least three inches of clearance. Same for the
right side. Nothing popped or cracked.
Then I read the discussion about Equal. Bought some. Returned to Big-O and
said to put it in. No problem, we know what we're doing.
Jacked safely up and down the same way.
I'd say positioning the jack at that point is the trick. Not from in front
of the wheel unless you're in the center.
As Emery suggests, a short bottle and a long bottle would do the trick. Of
course, Rob's two stage jack looks very appealing.
Byron Songer
1978 Royale by Coachmen
Louisville, KY
Personal - http://web.me.com/bnsonger
Eastern States - http://www.gmceast.com
Bob Horton wrote:
> I carry a jack hook and bottle jack but other posts have stated that jacking
> up the front from one side rather than the middle can break a windshield.
> Hence I have been reluctant to jack from anywhere in the front except the
> middle. What experiences have others had???
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| Re: Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84698 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 11:02 |
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| mcolie wrote on Sat, 15 May 2010 05:10 |
As some of you may have read, at the tail end of the Blue Ridge backhaul, we needed to change out a front tire. (That turned out to be a cracked wheel.)
I was not satisfied by the way the OE jack made the bumper strut leak.
I would like to locate a jack, small and light enough to be carried in a 23, that can lift what needs lifting to change out a completely flat tire.
Years ago, I owned a 2-ton scissor jack that would have done nicely, but I haven't seen one recently.
Does anybody know of a currently available piece that will do what a TZE owner hopes to never need?
Matt
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Matt: As others have said, a jack hook which works front and rear was developed by Bob Rosenburg and is now sold by Jimmy K. It is very good and I used mine without any issues at all. Virtually any relatively short bottle jack will work with it. A very good solution.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84710 is a reply to message #84699] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 12:44 |
gmcrv1
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Chris,
I have the identical jack purchased from Costco. It came in a package deal
with two jack stands and a creeper. The aluminum floor jack works great -
although I have not used it on the GMC. It stores neatly in the hidden
compartment in my Buick Rendezvous. Handle breaks down and ealily removed
from the jack base.
So, you want me to try it on the GMC? Where?
Thanks,
Tom Eckert
N2VWN
73 Glacier
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> Anyone tried this HF jack? My buddy has one and it is very light weight.
> Haven't tried it on my GMC yet. there is a coupon in the sunday paper
> bringing this to $59.
>
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> http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/floor-jacks/3000-lb-capacity-lightweight-aluminum-racing-jack-91039.html
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> Engineer's Motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84752 is a reply to message #84699] |
Sat, 15 May 2010 19:29 |
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USAussie
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Chris,
I have a HF aluminum jack I brought with me from the USA when I retired in
2002. It is a bit different than the one pictured in as much as it has two
wheels at the "front" and not a roller. I have never used it to try and jack
up the GMC. I'm at home and can't remember what the rating is. I do know
that pumping it up to raise the rear end of my Dad's old 1968 Type III
Squareback takes more effort than pumping up the steel floor jack. I realize
that this statement demonstrates an acute grasp on the obvious as the
pistons have to be larger to move a larger volume of fluid to get he rapid
speed!
I just looked at the data from the coach weighing session conducted by Alex
Sirum at the recent Eastern States GMC rally. The front end of the lightest
coach weighed 3400 lbs and the heaviest weighed 4650 lbs. Now you're
wondering how in the world you could have that large a range! The 3400 lb
coach has a custom purpose built interior.
Rated at 3000 lbs I don't think this jack will cut it.
However, HF does have this jack but unfortunately it too is underrated:
http://www.harborfreight.com/rapid-pump-4000-lb-capacity-lightweight-low-pro
file-aluminum-racing-jack-92782.html
I reckon we're stuck with heavy steel floor jacks like these:
Standard three ton model:
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-super-heavy-duty-floor-jack-34271.html
Low profile three ton model:
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-ton-capacity-low-profile-floor-jack-94629.htm
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Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Need a suggestion for a jack to carry
Anyone tried this HF jack? My buddy has one and it is very light weight.
Haven't tried it on my GMC yet. there is a coupon in the sunday paper
bringing this to $59.
http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/floor-jacks/3000-lb-capac
ity-lightweight-aluminum-racing-jack-91039.html
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Engineer's Motorhome
Scottsdale, AZ
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The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Need a suggestion for a jack to carry [message #84785 is a reply to message #84653] |
Sun, 16 May 2010 00:14 |
Chr$
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I personally use a 3 ton jack that came with jackstands from Checker. It raises the front or rear of the coach without any problems. The HF one may be good just to raise it an inch off the ground, like Gene says. Always use a jackstand.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
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