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WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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There is none. We got home today and I need to get back to trying to figure this thing out. Took the cooling lines off last week to make sure I could blow through the cooler. No problem there.
Could the kickdown on the accelerator have anything to do with this? The problem is it kicks down to second while running down the road at hiway speed. Will not kick back up. I thought it might be the shifter linkage but that was the last thing they adjusted at Miguel's. Looks like if it was the linkage I could wiggle it back into 3rd gear. It just goes into neutral when I bump it up.
I am open to any thoughts.
Thanks,
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84015 is a reply to message #84011] Mon, 10 May 2010 22:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On May 10, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Dan Gregg wrote:

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> There is none. We got home today and I need to get back to trying to figure this thing out. Took the cooling lines off last week to make sure I could blow through the cooler. No problem there.
> Could the kickdown on the accelerator have anything to do with this? The problem is it kicks down to second while running down the road at hiway speed. Will not kick back up. I thought it might be the shifter linkage but that was the last thing they adjusted at Miguel's. Looks like if it was the linkage I could wiggle it back into 3rd gear. It just goes into neutral when I bump it up.
> I am open to any thoughts.
> Thanks,
> Dan
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Try unplugging the connector from the kick down connection on the right side of the tranny.
If you still have a problem you might have to drop the pan and check to see if the kickdown solenoid is loose from its mount and leaking.
I once had a problem and the spot welds on the solenoid body had broken loose and allowed it to leak and it wouldn't shift up.

Emery Stora
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Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84025 is a reply to message #84015] Mon, 10 May 2010 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, thanks Emery. Sounds reasonable to me.
Dan


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Re: Update on Tranny [message #84034 is a reply to message #84011] Tue, 11 May 2010 01:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan, sometimes I just get these crazy thoughts that jump back into my mind from earlier days. Bear with me while I run this by you and see what you think. When GM came out with what they called the HOT chassis in 1986 I was working as service manager at an RV dealership here in the Phoenix area. We started to get complaints from customers along the same lines that you are stating, namely "the transmission is shifting down". I have not read the full story on yours so I may be way off the mark. What we found was not the trans dropping down a gear but the fan kicking in to cool down the engine temperature. We proved this by watching the temp gauge rise, fan kicking on with the loud roaring noise, temp gauge lowering. If you have a tachometer it would be another way of determining if it is actually dropping down a gear. I know you had a new engine installed and if they installed a new viscous fan assembly along with it that would be a different sound to you. Hope this helps, Jim
Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84039 is a reply to message #84034] Tue, 11 May 2010 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dan,

Don't feel bad if that's what's happening. Crossing the Texas panhandle in
'96, driving our '90 Airstream Land Yacht, every time I slowed down the
transmission downshifted. We spent that night at Palo Duro Canyon, from
where I called my RV dealer friend in NC. He called back the next morning,
after talking to his service manager, with the same diagnosis.

The Airstream had an auxiliary electric fan. After I installed a manual
switch parallel to its thermostatic control, and used it, the symptom never
recurred.

Talk about embarrassed -- worse than having my pants fall down!

Ken H.


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Jim Maher <hasbeen24@msn.com> wrote:

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> Dan, sometimes I just get these crazy thoughts that jump back into my mind
> from earlier days. Bear with me while I run this by you and see what you
> think. When GM came out with what they called the HOT chassis in 1986 I was
> working as service manager at an RV dealership here in the Phoenix area. We
> started to get complaints from customers along the same lines that you are
> stating, namely "the transmission is shifting down". I have not read the
> full story on yours so I may be way off the mark. What we found was not the
> trans dropping down a gear but the fan kicking in to cool down the engine
> temperature. We proved this by watching the temp gauge rise, fan kicking on
> with the loud roaring noise, temp gauge lowering. If you have a tachometer
> it would be another way of determining if it is actually dropping down a
> gear. I know you had a new engine installed and if they installed a new
> viscous fan assembly along with it that would be a different sound to you.
> Hope this helps, Jim
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84054 is a reply to message #84039] Tue, 11 May 2010 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks guys. I sure wish that was the problem, I could fix that myself. Tach jumps up too. It will then take off and shift into second but never come out and into third. Sometimes if we pull over and rest for ten minutes it will shift into 3rd and sometimes it won't. My old spare fan clutch was put on after it was determined by Miguel that mine was sticking on. Miguel does not keep parts or I would have put a new one on. The one we put on has not been coming on at all.
I will put the cooling lines back on and unplug the kick down wire. Of course, I won't know if it is fixed until we start out on our next trip.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84066 is a reply to message #84025] Tue, 11 May 2010 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jim,
That is a real good point as this is what lot think.
In this case, I can tell you Dan is very aware of this.
I love fan clutch,but when they lock up hard, I swore it feels like
the trans as it jerks at times.
It happened once and I thought it was the trans.

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Ok, thanks Emery. Sounds reasonable to me.
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84082 is a reply to message #84066] Tue, 11 May 2010 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jimk wrote on Tue, 11 May 2010 11:33

Jim,
That is a real good point as this is what lot think.
In this case, I can tell you Dan is very aware of this.
I love fan clutch,but when they lock up hard, I swore it feels like
the trans as it jerks at times.
It happened once and I thought it was the trans.
-
Jim Kanomata
A



Jim.

I had a Hayden fan clutch on the coach when we were going to the Rayne Convention. Every so often it would come on when there was no reason and it locked up. It felt like I had slammed on the brakes on. It would release after about 1/2 mile. I thought then if we could do that on purpose going down a mountain, it would be like a truck Jake brake. Couldn't figure out how to do that though.


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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84099 is a reply to message #84082] Tue, 11 May 2010 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The big rigs have a electonic controlled fan clutch.
They make it only for Diesals as they run at lower RPM.

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Gene Dotson <shawnee@charter.net> wrote:
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> jimk wrote on Tue, 11 May 2010 11&#58;33
>> Jim,
>> That is a real good point as this is what lot think.
>> In this case, I can tell you Dan is very aware of this.
>> I love fan clutch,but when they lock up hard, I swore it feels like
>> the trans as it jerks at times.
>> It happened once and I thought it was the trans.
>> -
>> Jim Kanomata
>> A
>
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> Jim.
>
> I had a Hayden fan clutch on the coach when we were going to the Rayne Convention.  Every so often it would come on when there was no reason and it locked up.  It felt like I had slammed on the brakes on.  It would release after about 1/2 mile.  I thought then if we could do that on purpose going down a mountain, it would be like a truck Jake brake.  Couldn't figure out how to do that though.
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Re: [GMCnet] Update on Tranny [message #84108 is a reply to message #84099] Tue, 11 May 2010 15:58 Go to previous message
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Well, I think the governor is coming off tomorrow or Thursday.
Dan


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