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[GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83382] Thu, 06 May 2010 18:28 Go to next message
Mike Frothinger is currently offline  Mike Frothinger   United States
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Hi Guys and Gals,

In the two weeks since I announced that the General is for sale nearly 500
people have visited my website. Thanks for looks and referrals. I have not
sold yet, but have some good prospects.
https://sites.google.com/site/motorhomegmc/

However, *in protest I suppose*, the General has a broken refrigerator. I
believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot lights
while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the switch.
The Refrigerator is a Trav'ler (probably not the original unit). Any ideas
or suggestions. Can you successfully add an inverter to run just on the
120v side? Does anyone have a recommendation or a refrig for sale?

Mike,
The General's Driver

PS: Conversations regarding sales can be sent to me directly, rather than
clutter the list. mfrothinger@gmail.com
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83389 is a reply to message #83382] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Do you live anywhere near the Amish fellows who repair refrigerators? I understand he is very reasonable.

Maybe someone can chime in with the address of this guy so that you'll know if you are close.

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83392 is a reply to message #83389] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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A forum search pulled up "National RV Refrigeration in Shipshewana, In." I see from Google their address and phone number as
8015 North 600 West
Shipshewana, IN 46565-9288

Get Directions (260) 768-7059

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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator.

Do you live anywhere near the Amish fellows who repair refrigerators? I understand he is very reasonable.

Maybe someone can chime in with the address of this guy so that you'll know if you are close.

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83395 is a reply to message #83392] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Frothinger is currently offline  Mike Frothinger   United States
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Larry,

My apology for not listing my location. I am in Santa Rosa Ca. about 50
miles north of San Francisco.

Mike,
The General's Driver



On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:

> A forum search pulled up "National RV Refrigeration in Shipshewana, In." I
> see from Google their address and phone number as
> 8015 North 600 West
> Shipshewana, IN 46565-9288
>
> Get Directions (260) 768-7059
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 6:00:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator.
>
> Do you live anywhere near the Amish fellows who repair refrigerators? I
> understand he is very reasonable.
>
> Maybe someone can chime in with the address of this guy so that you'll know
> if you are close.
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83397 is a reply to message #83382] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
powerjon is currently offline  powerjon   United States
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Mike,
It would help if you could put the state your located in to better
direct to the closest supplier from where you live

J.R. Wright
On May 6, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Mike Frothinger wrote:

> Hi Guys and Gals,
>
> In the two weeks since I announced that the General is for sale
> nearly 500
> people have visited my website. Thanks for looks and referrals. I
> have not
> sold yet, but have some good prospects.
> https://sites.google.com/site/motorhomegmc/
>
> However, *in protest I suppose*, the General has a broken
> refrigerator. I
> believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot
> lights
> while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the
> switch.
> The Refrigerator is a Trav'ler (probably not the original unit).
> Any ideas
> or suggestions. Can you successfully add an inverter to run just on
> the
> 120v side? Does anyone have a recommendation or a refrig for sale?
>
> Mike,
> The General's Driver
>
> PS: Conversations regarding sales can be sent to me directly, rather
> than
> clutter the list. mfrothinger@gmail.com
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83400 is a reply to message #83397] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
storm'n is currently offline  storm'n   United States
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  Mike.    The thermocouple is an easy & cheap fix . Any hardware store or the big box stores have replacements. Your symptoms are typical thermocouple failure. In another life I was a R.V. propane tech.
  Norm




Mike,
It would help if you could put the state your located in to better 
direct to the closest supplier from where you live

J.R. Wright
On May 6, 2010, at 7:28 PM, Mike Frothinger wrote:

> Hi Guys and Gals,
>
> In the two weeks since I announced that the General is for sale 
> nearly 500
> people have visited my website.  Thanks for looks and referrals.  I 
> have not
> sold yet, but have some good prospects.
> https://sites.google.com/site/motorhomegmc/
>
> However, *in protest I suppose*, the General has a broken 
> refrigerator.  I
> believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot 
> lights
> while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the 
> switch.
> The Refrigerator is a Trav'ler (probably not the original unit).   
> Any ideas
> or suggestions.  Can you successfully add an inverter to run just on 
> the
> 120v side?  Does anyone have a recommendation or a refrig for sale?
>
> Mike,
> The General's Driver
>
> PS: Conversations regarding sales can be sent to me directly, rather 
> than
> clutter the list.  mfrothinger@gmail.com
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83403 is a reply to message #83382] Thu, 06 May 2010 20:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
emerystora is currently offline  emerystora   United States
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Mike

It does sound like the thermocouple. They don't cost much. Go to a Home Depot or Ace Hardware or Lowes and buy one. It is the same as for a home water heater.
The differences are just in the length of the tube and you can coil one up if its too long.

Emery Stora

On May 6, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Mike Frothinger wrote:

> Hi Guys and Gals,
>
> In the two weeks since I announced that the General is for sale nearly 500
> people have visited my website. Thanks for looks and referrals. I have not
> sold yet, but have some good prospects.
> https://sites.google.com/site/motorhomegmc/
>
> However, *in protest I suppose*, the General has a broken refrigerator. I
> believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot lights
> while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the switch.
> The Refrigerator is a Trav'ler (probably not the original unit). Any ideas
> or suggestions. Can you successfully add an inverter to run just on the
> 120v side? Does anyone have a recommendation or a refrig for sale?
>
> Mike,
> The General's Driver
>
> PS: Conversations regarding sales can be sent to me directly, rather than
> clutter the list. mfrothinger@gmail.com
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Santa Fe, NM


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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83427 is a reply to message #83395] Thu, 06 May 2010 23:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Santa Rosa? Nearly perfect, but nowhere near Indiana!


On May 6, 2010, at 6:22 PM, Mike Frothinger wrote:

> Larry,
>
> My apology for not listing my location. I am in Santa Rosa Ca. about 50
> miles north of San Francisco.
>
> Mike,
> The General's Driver
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> A forum search pulled up "National RV Refrigeration in Shipshewana, In." I
>> see from Google their address and phone number as
>> 8015 North 600 West
>> Shipshewana, IN 46565-9288
>>
>> Get Directions (260) 768-7059
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 6:00:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator.
>>
>> Do you live anywhere near the Amish fellows who repair refrigerators? I
>> understand he is very reasonable.
>>
>> Maybe someone can chime in with the address of this guy so that you'll know
>> if you are close.
>>
>> Larry Davick
>> The Mystery Machine
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83428 is a reply to message #83395] Thu, 06 May 2010 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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Mike, Jim K is just a hop skip and jump down the road from you.
I'm sure he could help if you can get down there. If he can't he
will direct you to someone that can. At least that is what I have
found. Have you tried giving him a call?
Charles
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> Larry,
>
> My apology for not listing my location. I am in Santa Rosa Ca. about 50
> miles north of San Francisco.
>
> Mike,
> The General's Driver
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> A forum search pulled up "National RV Refrigeration in Shipshewana, In."
>> I
>> see from Google their address and phone number as
>> 8015 North 600 West
>> Shipshewana, IN 46565-9288
>>
>> Get Directions (260) 768-7059
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry Davick" <ljdavick@comcast.net>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2010 6:00:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator.
>>
>> Do you live anywhere near the Amish fellows who repair refrigerators? I
>> understand he is very reasonable.
>>
>> Maybe someone can chime in with the address of this guy so that you'll
>> know
>> if you are close.
>>
>> Larry Davick
>> The Mystery Machine
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>
>
>
> --
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> http://www.judyfrothinger.com
>
> And Judy's Blog: " Spice of Life — Living the German Russian Culture"
> http://judyfrothinger.blogspot.com/
>
> Regards, Judy and Mike
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83430 is a reply to message #83382] Fri, 07 May 2010 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hasbeen is currently offline  hasbeen   United States
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Mike, sorry to hear about the refer. I remember the Traveler(by Elixer) very well. It was one of the better units in its day. You may want to do some checking before condemning the t-couple. Make sure your burner flame is adequate to heat the end of the t-couple. It may pay to disassemble and clean the burner. Also check your LP gas pressure to make sure it is o/k. Check that the end that goes into the safety valve is secure. If all of this checks out it may very well be bad, but if memory serves me well, I seem to remember the threaded portion that goes into the valve being different than what you can buy at Lowes, Home Depot and such. The Traveler had a lot in common with the Instamatic refrigerators and they shared many parts. I hope this helps and good luck with it. Jim
Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83431 is a reply to message #83382] Fri, 07 May 2010 00:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Mike, I just remembered a company I dealt with many years ago. Jeff's Gas Appliances in Willit, CA. Very familiar with the old Lp refrigerators. Not to far from you. Jim
Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83435 is a reply to message #83382] Fri, 07 May 2010 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I am not going to talk to you , since you are leaving the fold.....

but if I was, this is what I would say...

Thermocouples are a hardy bunch. The problem is normally not the
thermocouple, but where they live -----

1 in RV refers, what often happens is little spidies get in the burner, and
the tube that is above the burner, and either deflect the gas (before the
flame) or stop it from going up the tube.

2 you might look at the burner (through the inspection hole ) where ever it
is, and see if the flame is hitting the thermocouple.... Often the Spidies
can deflect the gas so the flame might light, but not touch the
thermocouple. ( I have fixed 3 refers doing this). You might even watch
the flame while the wife holds the switch in.

3 clean the gas / burner / tube area with a small brush, even pushing the
brush up the burner tube.

4 good luck - you old sod - will miss you

How are you going to visit that cabin in Shasta ?
gene




I

> believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot lights
> while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the switch.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83506 is a reply to message #83435] Fri, 07 May 2010 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Frothinger is currently offline  Mike Frothinger   United States
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the input. As the saying goes,"location is everything" and I
don't think I can convince my wife that I just need to make a little run to
Indianan., maybe Willits. The info on thermocouples being interchangeable
was good to hear. I had kind of written off the possibility of finding a
replacement. I did call Jim's shop and they are looking for a replacement
frig. Too bad Gene won't speak to me cause he has "pulled my fat out of the
fire" several times. I'll let you know my progress. And believe me this
group is going to be, by far, the toughest part of parting with the General.


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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83508 is a reply to message #83506] Fri, 07 May 2010 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so I guess there were no spidies in there?
gene



Too bad Gene won't speak to me cause he has "pulled my fat out of the

> fire" several times. I'll let you know my progress.
>



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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83509 is a reply to message #83508] Fri, 07 May 2010 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Frothinger is currently offline  Mike Frothinger   United States
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Hi Gene,

The general is at the Fair Grounds Today, and as soon oa I finish this email
I'm headed down their to check. Got my fingers crossed.

Mike.

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Mr.erf ERFisher <mr.erfisher@gmail.com>wrote:

> so I guess there were no spidies in there?
> gene
>
>
>
> Too bad Gene won't speak to me cause he has "pulled my fat out of the
>
> > fire" several times. I'll let you know my progress.
> >
>
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #83549 is a reply to message #83382] Fri, 07 May 2010 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just found this, hope it helps

http://news.webshots.com/photo/2927411070101316860zKButp


Len and Pat
78 Kingsley, The Beast II with dash lights that work
Fallbrook, CA

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4375

www.bdub.net/novak/

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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike Frothinger
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 4:28 PM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator.

Hi Guys and Gals,

In the two weeks since I announced that the General is for sale nearly 500
people have visited my website. Thanks for looks and referrals. I have not
sold yet, but have some good prospects.
https://sites.google.com/site/motorhomegmc/

However, *in protest I suppose*, the General has a broken refrigerator. I
believe the thermocouple has failed on the propane side, the pilot lights
while I hold the switch in, but goes out as soon as I release the switch.
The Refrigerator is a Trav'ler (probably not the original unit). Any ideas
or suggestions. Can you successfully add an inverter to run just on the
120v side? Does anyone have a recommendation or a refrig for sale?

Mike,
The General's Driver

PS: Conversations regarding sales can be sent to me directly, rather than
clutter the list. mfrothinger@gmail.com
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Re: [GMCnet] The General need a refrigerator. [message #85147 is a reply to message #83549] Tue, 18 May 2010 17:31 Go to previous message
Mike Frothinger is currently offline  Mike Frothinger   United States
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*Got Beer On Ice*. Our refrigarator is back on-line. I appreciate all the
help and advice. It turned out to be the thermocouple. When I pulled it
the tip had burned through. However, all thermocouples are not created
equal. Turns out the Universal Thermocouple is not quite universal. The
Trav'ler Refrigerator has a small unit all it's own. After several false
starts, including a trip to a machine shop, I located a source on the
internet. PPL Motorhome Parts and service www.pplmotorhomes.com carries the
parts for the Trav'ler.

The part arrived in about three days, I installed it and we have propane
refrigaration once more.

Thanks again for all the help.

Mike,
The General's Driver
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