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[GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 17:41 Go to next message
Ken Coit is currently offline  Ken Coit   United States
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Gary Worobec has some great photos posted of his fuel system components.
While I think I might have conquered double flare hard lines, I want to
replace the hard line with something I know I can install and replace in the
field, so I am going with SS braid covered hose. I have found the part
number for the Quadrajet 1" inlet to AN-6, it is the Aeroquip [image:
Aeroquip FCM2107 / FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06]<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
FCM2107
/ FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
There is also a 7/8" version for older carbs.

The washer is: FBM3517 / FCM3517 - Fits Dash Size -12 (5 per package)

BTW, Eaton seems to have pretty good prices on these.
https://www.aeroquip.cc

I plan to add a filter ahead of the carb, but not where the stock filter
housing is located. Does anyone have a recommendation for a filter with AN-6
ports?*
*
I have not found the part numbers for the AN-6 Female to Male 90° elbow.

Does anyone have this?

Thanks,

Ken

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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82002 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 18:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This may be what you seek.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/an914.php.

Glenn

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Ken Coit <ktcoit@gmail.com> wrote:

> Gary Worobec has some great photos posted of his fuel system components.
> While I think I might have conquered double flare hard lines, I want to
> replace the hard line with something I know I can install and replace in
> the
> field, so I am going with SS braid covered hose. I have found the part
> number for the Quadrajet 1" inlet to AN-6, it is the Aeroquip [image:
> Aeroquip FCM2107 / FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
> -06]<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
> FCM2107
> / FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
> -06<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
> There is also a 7/8" version for older carbs.
>
> The washer is: FBM3517 / FCM3517 - Fits Dash Size -12 (5 per package)
>
> BTW, Eaton seems to have pretty good prices on these.
> https://www.aeroquip.cc
>
> I plan to add a filter ahead of the carb, but not where the stock filter
> housing is located. Does anyone have a recommendation for a filter with
> AN-6
> ports?*
> *
> I have not found the part numbers for the AN-6 Female to Male 90° elbow.
>
> Does anyone have this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken
>
> --
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> Raleigh, NC
> Parfait Royale
> 1978 Royale Rear Bath, 403, 3.07
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82011 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Am doing the same thing,,,{leaks,leaks,leaks,,,long story]check out speedway motors,,good stuff, reasonable prices,,PL
Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82015 is a reply to message #82011] Mon, 26 April 2010 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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G'day,

AN fittings have a 37° flare, fittings you buy at the local hardware store
have 45° flares.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82016 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 19:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally....
I would put nothing between the fuel pump and the carb....
Why would I make that 'recommendation'?

I had an aftermarket pressuregulator with a dial on top between minefrom the PO....
It blew out thru the center of the knob ontop...
The resulting flashover left a brown streak from the drivers seat to the exit door...
Luckily, it 'only' burnt a wire or two which shorted out and then had a small electrial 'fire' from that.

The RV place said 'only take 4-6 mos to fix'...
Three yrs later I 'repossesed' my coach from them.

JWIWDNE

CBWoodSR
Back in MWC finally


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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82018 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ken,

Racor (Parker Hannifin) makes filters with 1/4" pipe inlet and outlets that
you can screw AN-6 to 1/4" pipe into.

Jim K sells a solid line that goes from the fuel pump to the carb:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/918

and an insulated flex line:

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/853

Ken Frey installed a fuel filter between the hard fuel line that sits on top
of the front crossmember and the inlet of the mechanical fuel pump in Double
Trouble.

I was wondering why you went through the hassle of doing double flares on
fuel line tubing that runs at low pressure?

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Coit
Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2010 8:41 AM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations

Gary Worobec has some great photos posted of his fuel system components.
While I think I might have conquered double flare hard lines, I want to
replace the hard line with something I know I can install and replace in the
field, so I am going with SS braid covered hose. I have found the part
number for the Quadrajet 1" inlet to AN-6, it is the Aeroquip [image:
Aeroquip FCM2107 / FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06]<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
FCM2107
/ FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
There is also a 7/8" version for older carbs.

The washer is: FBM3517 / FCM3517 - Fits Dash Size -12 (5 per package)

BTW, Eaton seems to have pretty good prices on these.
https://www.aeroquip.cc

I plan to add a filter ahead of the carb, but not where the stock filter
housing is located. Does anyone have a recommendation for a filter with AN-6
ports?*
*
I have not found the part numbers for the AN-6 Female to Male 90° elbow.

Does anyone have this?

Thanks,

Ken

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Raleigh, NC
Parfait Royale
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82019 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 19:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wally is currently offline  wally   United States
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Ken Coit wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 17:41

Gary Worobec has some great photos posted of his fuel system components.
While I think I might have conquered double flare hard lines, I want to
replace the hard line with something I know I can install and replace in the
field, so I am going with SS braid covered hose. I have found the part
number for the Quadrajet 1" inlet to AN-6, it is the Aeroquip [image:
Aeroquip FCM2107 / FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06]<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
FCM2107
/ FBM2107 - Fits Hose Size
-06<https://www.aeroquip.cc/fcm2107fbm2107-fitshosesize-06.aspx>
There is also a 7/8" version for older carbs.

The washer is: FBM3517 / FCM3517 - Fits Dash Size -12 (5 per package)

BTW, Eaton seems to have pretty good prices on these.
https://www.aeroquip.cc

I plan to add a filter ahead of the carb, but not where the stock filter
housing is located. Does anyone have a recommendation for a filter with AN-6
ports?*
*
I have not found the part numbers for the AN-6 Female to Male 90° elbow.

Does anyone have this?

Thanks,

Ken

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Raleigh, NC
Parfait Royale
1978 Royale Rear Bath, 403, 3.07
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Ken you can use JIC 37 degree flare fittings in place of the more expensive AN spec. I used steel JIC fittings for fuel stuff. Got it here
http://www.discounthydraulichose.com/SAE_37_Flare_JIC_Hydraulic_Tube_Fittings_s/24.htm
and here
https://www.surpluscenter.com/hydraulic.asp?catname=hydraulic
I figured the weight savings using aluminium fittings wasn't worth it.
JWID


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
75 Glenbrook
Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82032 is a reply to message #82019] Mon, 26 April 2010 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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The best part about JIC or AN is they are reusable. They seal just as good the second time as the first.

double flares are not reusable. They are a 1 time use. Tho I know people reuse them all the time!


Keith Vasilakes
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82034 is a reply to message #81995] Mon, 26 April 2010 21:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys, go make friends with the counter-person at your local hydraulic supply house. Raleigh has at least 10. I bought 40' of hydraulic steel tubing and at least 30 aeroquip brand fittings,some the sexy blue and red and even the carb adapter for slightly over $100 locally here in Florida. They had everything in stock and he even saved me a few fittings just by knowing what I was engineering.



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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82041 is a reply to message #82032] Mon, 26 April 2010 21:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Keith,

This is the first time I ever heard this.

I was a Mechanical Accessories Technician in the USAF and we reused 37°
double flared aluminum tubing in the oxygen and pneumatic systems on
aircraft.

After I got out of the USAF I went to work for Hamilton Standard and built
ground support equipment for Project Apollo when I was a tech at the Johnson
Space Center and re-used 37° degree double flared tubing there too.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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The best part about JIC or AN is they are reusable. They seal just as good
the second time as the first.

double flares are not reusable. They are a 1 time use. Tho I know people
reuse them all the time!
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82057 is a reply to message #82041] Tue, 27 April 2010 07:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Sorry I should have been clearer.

I should have said the standard 45' ISO flares are not reusable.
37' flares single or double are reusable.

Robert Mueller wrote on Mon, 26 April 2010 21:35

Keith,

This is the first time I ever heard this.

I was a Mechanical Accessories Technician in the USAF and we reused 37°
double flared aluminum tubing in the oxygen and pneumatic systems on
aircraft.

After I got out of the USAF I went to work for Hamilton Standard and built
ground support equipment for Project Apollo when I was a tech at the Johnson
Space Center and re-used 37° degree double flared tubing there too.

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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The best part about JIC or AN is they are reusable. They seal just as good
the second time as the first.

double flares are not reusable. They are a 1 time use. Tho I know people
reuse them all the time!
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82060 is a reply to message #81995] Tue, 27 April 2010 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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why do we have to have that heavy duty stuff between the carb and pump? the pump puts out what 6 PSI.


Fred V
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #82066 is a reply to message #82034] Tue, 27 April 2010 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn Pete,
That is good and thanks for the information. I have spent small
fortunes on A/N fittings in the past.
I love it when I learn something. Gonna be a good day!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:09 PM, pete <petemosss@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Guys, go make friends with the counter-person at your local hydraulic supply house. Raleigh has at least 10. I bought 40' of hydraulic steel tubing and at least 30 aeroquip brand fittings,some the sexy blue and red and even the carb adapter for slightly over $100 locally here in Florida. They had everything in stock and he even saved me a few fittings just by knowing what I was engineering.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] AN-6 fittings, elbows, hose recommendations [message #83152 is a reply to message #81995] Wed, 05 May 2010 10:16 Go to previous message
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Okay, so I've been absent from the list for several weeks. To accommodate the "secure" network at the office (and the fact that I cannot install software on this machine), I've had to completely revise the way I do email, and now my only realistic option for GMCnet is the forum.

And I've just been so busy. Worth it, though--I'm greatly enjoying the new role.

I used a billet aluminum AN-6 fuel filter housing with a sintered bronze filter, bought from Summit Racing (or maybe it was Jegs). It was a house brand and not expensive.

And the reason I used aircraft hose from the hardline to the carb (I no longer have a mechanical pump) is that I wanted something with at least a 300-degree rating and with a steel braid to protect the line. The fuel filter will not blow out like the regulator mentioned previously--it's a solid aluminum shell.

I used the same fitting on the carb mentioned in the first post. The hose going into that fitting has a right-angle connector, which avoided any interference with the thermostat housing.

My fuel system is now NHRA-approved, heh.

Rick "working his way through 20 pages of unread threads" Denney


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