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Thu, 22 April 2010 21:16  |
captjack
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I just turned over another rock in my recent acquisition and found that the water heater tank is rusted through. I'm hoping not to find many more boulders. I like to dry camp and liked Ray Erspamer's tankless water heater installation. It seems like a better alternative than replacing the existing tank. You don't have to run the generator to get hot water. Are there any updates and/or advice on this?
Thanks,
Jack Christensen - K6ROW,
'76 Glenbrook/Clasco - "The Silver Bullet",
Sebastopol, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81612 is a reply to message #81534] |
Fri, 23 April 2010 09:19  |
Ray Erspamer
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Hi John......let me know what ever I can do to help you with this.
Have a great day !!!
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Jack Christensen <captjack@sonic.net>
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Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 9:16:04 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater
I just turned over another rock in my recent acquisition and found that the water heater tank is rusted through. I'm hoping not to find many more boulders. I like to dry camp and liked Ray Erspamer's tankless water heater installation. It seems like a better alternative than replacing the existing tank. You don't have to run the generator to get hot water. Are there any updates and/or advice on this?
Thanks,
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'76 Glenbrook/Clasco
Sebastopol, CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81629 is a reply to message #81573] |
Fri, 23 April 2010 10:40 |
zhagrieb
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Sound like a good place. Would like to see it. Glenn
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Yea, but I will have to search for them. Either on my blog, from a couple
> years back, or on the photo site, I just cant recall.
> Our's is used for showers only so it is mounted in the bath, up near the
> Fantastic Vent.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81643 is a reply to message #81636] |
Fri, 23 April 2010 12:48 |
Ray Erspamer
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Dan has a nice installation here too.....Once you go tankless, you'll never go back to a standard water heater !
Have a great day !!!
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:15:34 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater
Glenn, here is a link to it. It vents out the Fantastic Vent, 3 inches away, with fan reversed.
http://danandteri.blogspot.com/2009/01/instant-hot-water.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81702 is a reply to message #81636] |
Fri, 23 April 2010 20:16 |
zhagrieb
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Way cool! I'm gonna do that. Thanks, Glenn
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Glenn, here is a link to it. It vents out the Fantastic Vent, 3 inches
> away, with fan reversed.
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> http://danandteri.blogspot.com/2009/01/instant-hot-water.html
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81723 is a reply to message #81707] |
Fri, 23 April 2010 21:48 |
zhagrieb
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Your next project could be to connect it to your hot water line then you'd
have hot water everywhere.
One caution, be careful of CO in a closed bathroom.
Glenn
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Glenn, I have pictures of the "plumbing" on the previous entry to my blog.
> Ray has lots of photos of his install and he uses his for all of his hot
> water. We can get hot water to wash dishes or make instant coffee by turning
> the temp all the way up and catching it in a container.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81823 is a reply to message #81799] |
Sun, 25 April 2010 10:05 |
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I like the original style hot water tank for the "free" hot water it
provides while driving. I also like the idea of having propane water heating
as an option to avoid running the genset when you are parked for extended
periods.
The tankless water heaters are great in that you don't have to wait, and
I've read comments indicating that they use less propane than the tri-mode
tanks.
I need to replace my original water heater, so I am considering plumbing
both an electric tank and a tankless heater together so that no matter what,
I always have a supply of hot water.
If I feed the tankless heater from the electric tank, will the tankless
heater remain off if the incoming water is hot enough? Will feeding 180°F
water into the tankless unit have any negative longterm effect on it?
Does anyone see any pros or cons to doing this over installing a tri-mode
unit? I have not checked what the tri-mode tank costs, but going with an
electric tank and a tankless heater will cost me +/-$500 .
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza II 26ft
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81826 is a reply to message #81823] |
Sun, 25 April 2010 10:36 |
Ray Erspamer
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I don't see any benefits of a dual system over just a tankless heater, I do see 2 negatives:
1. A cost of over $500 for a dual system vs. a tankless for under $200.
2. The space needed for the 2nd electric heater
Considering how little propane a tankless heater uses, I think it would take many years to use $300 worth of propane before the dual system actually became cost effective.
Have a great day !!!
Ray
Ray & Lisa Erspamer
78 Royale Center Kitchen
TZE368V101144
Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
414-745-3188
Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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From: Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com>
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 10:05:06 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater
I like the original style hot water tank for the "free" hot water it
provides while driving. I also like the idea of having propane water heating
as an option to avoid running the genset when you are parked for extended
periods.
The tankless water heaters are great in that you don't have to wait, and
I've read comments indicating that they use less propane than the tri-mode
tanks.
I need to replace my original water heater, so I am considering plumbing
both an electric tank and a tankless heater together so that no matter what,
I always have a supply of hot water.
If I feed the tankless heater from the electric tank, will the tankless
heater remain off if the incoming water is hot enough? Will feeding 180°F
water into the tankless unit have any negative longterm effect on it?
Does anyone see any pros or cons to doing this over installing a tri-mode
unit? I have not checked what the tri-mode tank costs, but going with an
electric tank and a tankless heater will cost me +/-$500 .
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza II 26ft
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Holley Hyperspark Ignition System
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| Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater [message #81827 is a reply to message #81826] |
Sun, 25 April 2010 10:55 |
Mr ERFisher
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and
and
the water hoses from the engine are always a pain in the butt.
-need to replace hoses
-need the water in the morning
-electric is always a chance of burning up the element, I have a timer
-have to drain tank in the winter
I am going to change over when I can
gene
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Ray Erspamer <78gmc-royale@att.net> wrote:
> I don't see any benefits of a dual system over just a tankless heater, I do
> see 2 negatives:
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> 1. A cost of over $500 for a dual system vs. a tankless for under $200.
> 2. The space needed for the 2nd electric heater
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> Considering how little propane a tankless heater uses, I think it would
> take many years to use $300 worth of propane before the dual system actually
> became cost effective.
>
> Have a great day !!!
> Ray
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> Ray & Lisa Erspamer
> 78 Royale Center Kitchen
> TZE368V101144
> Wauwatosa, Wisconsin 53226
> Email: 78GMC-Royale@att.net
> 414-745-3188
> Web Site: http://ray-lisa.page.tl/
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> From: Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com>
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Sent: Sun, April 25, 2010 10:05:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tankless Water Heater
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> I like the original style hot water tank for the "free" hot water it
> provides while driving. I also like the idea of having propane water
> heating
> as an option to avoid running the genset when you are parked for extended
> periods.
>
> The tankless water heaters are great in that you don't have to wait, and
> I've read comments indicating that they use less propane than the tri-mode
> tanks.
>
> I need to replace my original water heater, so I am considering plumbing
> both an electric tank and a tankless heater together so that no matter
> what,
> I always have a supply of hot water.
>
> If I feed the tankless heater from the electric tank, will the tankless
> heater remain off if the incoming water is hot enough? Will feeding 180°F
> water into the tankless unit have any negative longterm effect on it?
>
> Does anyone see any pros or cons to doing this over installing a tri-mode
> unit? I have not checked what the tri-mode tank costs, but going with an
> electric tank and a tankless heater will cost me +/-$500 .
>
>
> Thanks,
> Les Burt
> Montreal
> 1975 Eleganza II 26ft
>
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