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Mon, 19 April 2010 13:18  |
Smitty52
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Due to Lisa's illness we want to make sure we have nice fresh water in the coach. Has anyone installed a water filter in their coach and would be willing to share details about what fits where? Without having the coach in front of me, I can not determine where one would go.
Thanks
Wayne and Lisa,
Bolton Landing, NY,
Patriot Guard Rider,
Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81073 is a reply to message #81070] |
Mon, 19 April 2010 13:52  |
powerjon
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Wayne,
The easiest place to put the water filter is on the hose to the coach.
See:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/culligan-rv-500a-exterior-filter/9399
or
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/culligan-rvf-10-exterior-water-filter/12874
or
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/systems-iv-exterior-water-filter/7225
As for an internal filter you would need to install it on the outlet
of the pump which can be somewhat difficult or you can add a separate
faucet just for drinking water. Which would mount under the kitchen
sink.
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/flow-pur-interior-filter/42319
or
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/hydro-life-undercounter-filter-kit/16010
or near your pump
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/shurflo-universal-in-line-water-filter/27873
These are just one of may examples that are available. You should
also check you local RV suppliers.
J.R. Wright
On Apr 19, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Wayne E LaMothe wrote:
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> Due to Lisa's illness we want to make sure we have nice fresh water
> in the coach. Has anyone installed a water filter in their coach
> and would be willing to share details about what fits where?
> Without having the coach in front of me, I can not determine where
> one would go.
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> Thanks
> --
> Wayne and Lisa,
> Bolton Landing, NY,
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> 78 Royale
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> Patriot Guard Rider,
> Standing for those who stood for us.
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| Re: Water filters [message #81081 is a reply to message #81070] |
Mon, 19 April 2010 16:36 |
Chr$
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Does anyone here actually drink the water from their coach? It's one thing to brush your teeth and bathe with it, but another to actually drink it.
I've replaced 100% of my freshwater system, but still wouldn't consider drinking from it.
Goodness knows what has been attached to a campground water spigot that is mere feet away from the waste port...
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81082 is a reply to message #81081] |
Mon, 19 April 2010 16:46 |
Steven Ferguson
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Chris,
We both drink water from the tanks in the coaches. I sanitize the
FW tank with H. Peroxide (1 oz per gallon) prior to flushing and
filling them. I have a typical charcoal filter between the hose bib
and the coach for filling, and a large sediment filter where the water
enters my house from the street hookup. Given where the water comes
(sitting in those big, rusty tanks in the sun) from and how it is
treated before it gets to the spigot, I think my coach water is a
heckuva lot safer than what comes out of the faucet in the house.
I've only been doing this tor 12 - 13 years now so what should I be
watching out for?
To answer the original question, we have a cartridge filter beneath
the sink in the GMC, it is on the cold side because that is where we
get or drinking water and coffee water.
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone here actually drink the water from their coach? It's one thing to brush your teeth and bathe with it, but another to actually drink it.
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> I've replaced 100% of my freshwater system, but still wouldn't consider drinking from it.
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> Goodness knows what has been attached to a campground water spigot that is mere feet away from the waste port...
> --
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> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD U S S Kobiashi Maru (with leaky Warp Drive Nacelle): The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81101 is a reply to message #81081] |
Mon, 19 April 2010 18:39 |
emerystora
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On Apr 19, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Chris Choffat wrote:
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> Does anyone here actually drink the water from their coach? It's one
> thing to brush your teeth and bathe with it, but another to actually
> drink it.
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> I've replaced 100% of my freshwater system, but still wouldn't
> consider drinking from it.
>
> Goodness knows what has been attached to a campground water spigot
> that is mere feet away from the waste port...
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD U S S Kobiashi Maru (with
> leaky Warp Drive Nacelle): The Engineer's Motorhome
> Scottsdale, AZ
YES!
I've been doing it for the 29 years that I have owned my GMC and for
about 8 years with prior motorhomes. Guess what? I am still alive! :)
I super chlorinate the tank and pipes and faucets prior to going on a
trip. I then put a small amount of bleach into the tank which is
taken out by my Everpure filter that is hooked to the kitchen cold
faucet which is where we get out drinking water and water for making
coffee, lemonade, etc.
The water that I drink from the motorhome is probably more pure than
the city water I drink from my kitchen faucet at home.
Emery Stora
77 Kingsley
Santa Fe, NM
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81105 is a reply to message #81101] |
Mon, 19 April 2010 18:49 |
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Sterilizing the tank, pump, and plumbing prior to departing on a trip,
particularily after an extended period of sitting is the key to avoiding
waterbourn illnesses.
The best solution if your water quality is questionable is to only drink
bottled water when in the coach.
My 2 cents.
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza II 26ft
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81194 is a reply to message #81105] |
Tue, 20 April 2010 10:26 |
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| Les Burt wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 16:49 |
Sterilizing the tank, pump, and plumbing prior to departing on a trip, particularily after an extended period of sitting is the key to avoiding waterbourn illnesses.
The best solution if your water quality is questionable is to only drink bottled water when in the coach.
My 2 cents. ...
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I agree with Les, but I also agree with Steve!
Use the water from the coach to wash and stuff... but, drink and cook only with bottled water. (From home or the store.)
Do this UNTIL you go through the water system and are SURE it is OK. Then watch (and filter) what you put into the system to keep it that way.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Re: Water filters [message #81200 is a reply to message #81081] |
Tue, 20 April 2010 10:55 |
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| Chr$ wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 14:36 |
Does anyone here actually drink the water from their coach? It's one thing to brush your teeth and bathe with it, but another to actually drink it.
I've replaced 100% of my freshwater system, but still wouldn't consider drinking from it.
Goodness knows what has been attached to a campground water spigot that is mere feet away from the waste port...
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Chris: In 36 years I have had probably 20 or more RV's. I have used water in the tanks of them with no problems. Drinking it included. I do put some bleach in the tanks now and then, but I am not overly concerned about it.
Simply reporting my experiences. I don't find it to be an issue.
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: Water filters [message #81230 is a reply to message #81070] |
Tue, 20 April 2010 16:30 |
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Matt Colie
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| Wayne E LaMothe wrote on Mon, 19 April 2010 14:18 |
Due to Lisa's illness we want to make sure we have nice fresh water in the coach. Has anyone installed a water filter in their coach and would be willing to share details about what fits where? Without having the coach in front of me, I can not determine where one would go.
Thanks
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Wayne,
This is a chronic boat problem as well.
There are three wholly separate issues with drinking water, Clarity and Contamination either chemical or biological.
Contamination (as in biological issues)
Filters are hard pressed to deal with biologic contamination. That is best dealt with by chemical means (to kill those F-ing bugs Dead). If you once sterilize (with CL2 or H2O2) the system and then only fill from chlorinated municipal water, there will be little problem. - Except for taste .
Chemical Contamination
An active carbon filter on the faucet can effectively deal with that. These are easy to install, use and service. You might go to a nearby hardware store and see what they stock so you don't have to plan every trip through Glens Falls to get a new filter (they don't last real long, but they aren't real expensive).
Clarity
This is all anything but active carbon or an RO (reverse osmosis) can deal with. Paper and yarn filters can remove particulate from water, but as far as removing virus, bacteria and chemical contamination, they don't do much. If you see something the says "sediment filter" that is just what it says, it stops mud, but not much else.
If you have to tank from well water (or water from an unknown source like at a rural campground), then get in the habit of dosing the potable tank with either nasty biocide mentioned above.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81242 is a reply to message #81230] |
Tue, 20 April 2010 18:31 |
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G'day,
Let's turn this question around and ask:
Has anyone gotten sick from drinking water in their coach?
a) Was it through the city water system?
1. If yes where were you?
b) Was it onboard tank water?
1. If yes had you sterilized that tank?
When I bought Double Trouble it had been sitting for over three years. When
I turned on the hot water it came out BLACK and it stank to high heaven of
rotten eggs (sulfur dioxide?) I noticed that the area around the hot water
heater (HWH) was wet. It turned out that the aluminum tank was seeping
because of corrosion that had gone through the tank. I drained and filled
the HWH a number of times until it ran clear. The smell remained but only
when you ran hot water and it was minimal.
However, we still used bottled water for drinking and cooking. We did wash
the dishes using water that came through the HWH and brushed our teeth with
water that came through the on board water system (tank or city).
When I got down to the COOP and removed the HWH I found despite draining it
still had water in it. I poured it out and the "water" that came out was
still black! It looked like used engine oil! I removed the electric element
(for a spare) and noted that the drain in the Atwood Electric EH-6 HWH does
not empty the tank completely it only empties it halfway so the element
remains under water (makes sense).
Emery helped me find some cartridges for the Everpure filter and I installed
one and that's what we used for drinking and cooking this past summer.
Bottom line through all this I never sterilized the system and to date no
problems! However, I will do so this year when I get to Houston, no sense
tempting fate!
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: Water filters [message #81255 is a reply to message #81070] |
Tue, 20 April 2010 20:17 |
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Regarding "bottled" water. Yes, I have read the reports that some "bottled" water is simply that. Water from an undefined source in a bottle. I don't even know what the regulations are for "bottled" water in Ontario, Canada, or is water quality a Federal or Provincial thing. I know if it comes from a "tap" it is Provincially regulated but that didn't stop a lot of people getting sick from contaminated municipal water a few years ago. I would "hope" if it was "name brand" bottled water it would be safe. Coca-Cola markets a bottled water in Ontario and as they would be a good target for a lawsuit involving tainted water, I would expect theirs to be safe. I probably would NOT drink ABC brand bottled water(LOL) Having a means to "purify" any unknown water put into the MH tank is a GREAT idea. I believe there are some filters that can catch some nasty "cysts" (Cyclosporidia or somethng like that).
DEK
still a wannabe !!!!!
DAVE KING
lurker, wannabe
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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| Re: [GMCnet] Water filters [message #81324 is a reply to message #81262] |
Wed, 21 April 2010 10:49 |
mlincoln
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I would agree with Matt Colie that the main risks to health are contaminating the water system in your GMC (or for that matter, your canteen) with pathogen-containing water from an untested or unknown source. Even if you chlorinate your tank once a week on Saturdays, you can catch a disease Monday night after filling the water from a contaminated tap Monday afternoon. On the other hand, if you clean and sanitize your tank with an adequate chlorine dose, and then don't put in any unknown or questionable water, you're probably good for a long time. Never use surface water without filtering for giardia (a time consuming task that requires a very fine filter).
Mike Lincoln (MD)
On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:16 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
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> I think you can probably rely on the water you
> bottle yourself at Wal-Mart and similar stores.
> This is local city water that goes through Reverse
> Osmosis (RO) and then is dispensed through a field
> of ultra-violet light as it is being dispensed.
> Our city water at our marina is pretty good, and
> we don't worry much about it, but I like to use
> the Wal-Mart stuff for making coffee or undiluting
> frozen orange juice concentrate. Kinda silly 'cause
> that's what runs through our icemaker!
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> * Mac Macdonald *
> * Oklahoma City *
> ** "Money Pit" **
> * '76 ex - P.B. *
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>> From: ken0henderson@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:23:55 -0400
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Water filters
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>> That's my routine too, Rob: Use it just like home water and bleach it when
>> the notion strikes me; not very often. Neither SHE nor I have ever suffered
>> any ailment that could be even possibly linked to the coach water. And I
>> have a policy of never drinking bottled water -- who knows WHERE that stuff
>> comes from. :-)
>>
>> Ken H.
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>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Rob Allen wrote:
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>>> Chris: In 36 years I have had probably 20 or more RV's. I have used water
>>> in the tanks of them with no problems. Drinking it included. I do put some
>>> bleach in the tanks now and then, but I am not overly concerned about it.
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