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Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit [message #80688] Fri, 16 April 2010 00:40 Go to next message
mike miller   United States
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Questions, mostly to Jim K, but of interst to others on the list.

jimk wrote on Thu, 15 April 2010 20:16

On the Hubler kit , you get the wider wheel stance and a greater brake system.
Contrary to belief,only 60 % of the people know how to do the front
bearing on the coach so this newer design makes it fool proof.
The ball joint is easy to replace and you'll also have a 4-5 degree of
caster that we all are seeking.The kit comes with a rebuilt A frame
with reinforced torsion bar socket and new ball joints and grommets.
In someways , the money spent is not really that much when you itemise
everything .


I am think of completely going through the front end of one of my coaches... what ever one I finally decide to keep. Odds are it'll be a 1973. I like the idea of upgrading the stock system. Better brakes, wider stance and better bearings, all seem desirable. But you have to look at the cost to benefits ratio...

To install this kit:
http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635

Quote:

Heavy Duty Front End Kit - (16-1000)
Price: $2,995.00
Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit Bigger 12" rotors provide more braking surface Extra heavy duty off the shelf bearing set Same tracking width as rear wheels Features rebuilt and reinforced lower control arm with heavy duty ball joint and a "beefed up" torsion bar socket

I accept that I must return rebuildable core parts for core refund.


What parts are replaced with this kit? What parts are being reused? (and may need to be rebuilt) What parts (cores) are needed to be returned? Are the 1973 parts considered rebuildable cores?

Note: The page on Refurbished Control Arms - (Price: $1,049.00 for a set of 4.) states “NO CREDIT ON CORE FOR 73 A FRAMES !!!” What is the "core charge" (that I would forfeit) if I want to put a set on my '73?

It looks like, during a major refurbishment, a combined upgrade like the Hubler kit, might not be THAT much more than OEM. I just do not have all the facts... yet.


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Re: [GMCnet] Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit [message #80712 is a reply to message #80688] Fri, 16 April 2010 07:23 Go to previous message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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You keep only the OEM upper control arms.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Mike Miller <m000035@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Questions, mostly to Jim K, but of interst to others on the list.
>
> jimk wrote on Thu, 15 April 2010 20&#58;16
>> On the Hubler kit , you get the wider wheel stance and a greater brake system.
>> Contrary to belief,only 60 % of the people know how to do the front
>> bearing on the coach so this newer design makes it fool proof.
>> The ball joint is easy to replace and you'll also have a 4-5 degree of
>> caster that we all are seeking.The kit comes with a rebuilt A frame
>> with reinforced torsion bar socket and new ball joints and grommets.
>> In someways , the money spent is not really that much when you itemise
>> everything .
>
>
> I am think of completely going through the front end of one of my coaches... what ever one I finally decide to keep.  Odds are it'll be a 1973.  I like the idea of upgrading the stock system.  Better brakes, wider stance and better bearings, all seem desirable.  But you have to look at the cost to benefits ratio...
>
> To install  this kit:
> http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/635
>
> Quote:
>> Heavy Duty Front End Kit - (16-1000)
>> Price: $2,995.00
>> Bill Hubler Heavy Duty Front End Kit Bigger 12" rotors provide more braking surface Extra heavy duty off the shelf bearing set Same tracking width as rear wheels Features rebuilt and reinforced lower control arm with heavy duty ball joint and a "beefed up" torsion bar socket
>>
>> I accept that I must return rebuildable core parts for core refund.
>
>
> What parts are replaced with this kit?   What parts are being reused? (and may need to be rebuilt)  What parts (cores) are needed to be returned?  Are the 1973 parts considered rebuildable cores?
>
> Note: The page on  Refurbished Control Arms - (Price: $1,049.00 for a set of 4.) states  &#8220;NO CREDIT ON CORE FOR 73 A FRAMES !!!&#8221;  What is the "core charge" (that I would forfeit) if I want to put a set on my '73?
>
> It looks like, during a major refurbishment, a combined upgrade like the Hubler kit, might not be THAT much more than OEM.  I just do not have all the facts... yet.
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