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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80271 is a reply to message #80270] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 05:04   |
Ken Burton
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| Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 03:55 |
Hey Ken
I looked at your photo set
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10817&cat=3942
but I cannot find what you used for the cable you used in your "cable dip
stick"
I need to make one, - or two-
gene
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I just got a piece of stainless cable from the hardware store. I only got stainless because they happened to have it. Regular steel cable will also work.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80272 is a reply to message #80271] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 06:39 |
GMCWiperMan
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Gene,
I had some 1/8" cable from an old garage door counterweight (IIRC).
Ken B, can you braze SS? Never thought of that question before, but it's
needed to keep the cable from unraveling.
DON'T do what I did on the Cad500: There's even less clearance for the
dipstick in it than in the 455. I fitted the cable to just above where I
felt (and heard, before adding oil) the cable hit the bottom of the pan. On
first engine run I could hear that was too long -- the crank was hitting it.
I pulled the cable out before any obvious damage was done, and anchored the
handle between a couple of nearby obstacles. During a later test drive, the
cable worked itself back into the engine and was hit again, that time
breaking 2-3 strands of wire. I'm quite sure no engine damage was done, but
that's not the way to determine how long it should be.
Ken Snake-Bit H.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 03:55
> > Hey Ken
> > I looked at your photo set
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10817&cat=3942
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> > but I cannot find what you used for the cable you used in your "cable dip
> > stick"
> > I need to make one, - or two-
> >
> > gene
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> > �ive a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL
> and
>
> I just got a piece of stainless cable from the hardware store. I only got
> stainless because they happened to have it. Regular steel cable will also
> work.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80274 is a reply to message #80270] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 07:15 |
fred v
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you can silver solder SS. what is the advantage of the cable dipstick? is it just that you can make it yourself.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80278 is a reply to message #80275] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 07:52 |
Mr ERFisher
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Yah, that is the problem
on my 26 the dip stick is a wire with a flat end---- that works (the end
eventuality breaks off), but it works.
on the 23 it is a flat dip stick and going down the tube, through the
headers, by the splicing connector, into the s curve, into the block, it
just does not work.
so I am going to make one from a wire, or a cable,
thanks all
gene
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>wrote:
> Fred,
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> My 455's dipstick tube had a compound curve which the flat dipstick could
> hardly follow. The Cad's tube is much worse -- no way a flat dipstick
> would
> go through it.
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> Ken H.
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> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:15 AM, fred veenschoten <fredntoni@cox.net>
> wrote:
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> > you can silver solder SS. what is the advantage of the cable dipstick? is
> > it just that you can make it yourself.
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> > --
> > Fred V
> > '77 Royale RB 455
> > P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80281 is a reply to message #80270] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 08:11 |
Gary Cottingame
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Ken,
I have a '98 Deville w/4.9 Northstar that uses a cable dipstick. The end that is in the pan that measures, I believe is molded plastic.
You can't braize SS, but you can silver solder it.
Gary
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--- On Mon, 4/12/10, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Monday, April 12, 2010, 6:39 AM
Gene,
I had some 1/8" cable from an old garage door counterweight (IIRC).
Ken B, can you braze SS? Never thought of that question before, but it's
needed to keep the cable from unraveling.
DON'T do what I did on the Cad500:Â There's even less clearance for the
dipstick in it than in the 455. I fitted the cable to just above where I
felt (and heard, before adding oil) the cable hit the bottom of the pan. On
first engine run I could hear that was too long -- the crank was hitting it.
I pulled the cable out before any obvious damage was done, and anchored the
handle between a couple of nearby obstacles. During a later test drive, the
cable worked itself back into the engine and was hit again, that time
breaking 2-3 strands of wire. I'm quite sure no engine damage was done, but
that's not the way to determine how long it should be.
Ken Snake-Bit H.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 03:55
> > Hey Ken
> > I looked at your photo set
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10817&cat=3942
> >
> > but I cannot find what you used for the cable you used in your "cable dip
> > stick"
> > I need to make one, - or two-
> >
> > gene
> >
> >
> > --
> > Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
> > �ive a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him a URL
> and
>
> I just got a piece of stainless cable from the hardware store. I only got
> stainless because they happened to have it. Regular steel cable will also
> work.
> --
> Ken Burton - N9KB
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80308 is a reply to message #80272] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 12:26 |
emerystora
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Ken
I have made a cable dip stick and found that I couldn't really see the
oil on the end. I then brazed about 1-1/2 on the end and filed or
ground a flat on one side of the brazed part.
I calibrated it by putting in one quart less of oil that would be full
and then started the engine to circulate the oil. I then waited a few
minutes to simulate the time it would normally be at a gas stop when I
would normally check the oil. I then checked the oil and filed a small
groove across the flat. I then put in one more quart and repeated the
oil check and filed another groove to represent the "full" point.
If you are going to use stainless you'll probably have to solder the
end rather than braze. I would suggest you use plain steel cable.
Emery Stora
On Apr 12, 2010, at 5:39 AM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Gene,
>
> I had some 1/8" cable from an old garage door counterweight (IIRC).
>
> Ken B, can you braze SS? Never thought of that question before, but
> it's
> needed to keep the cable from unraveling.
>
> DON'T do what I did on the Cad500: There's even less clearance for
> the
> dipstick in it than in the 455. I fitted the cable to just above
> where I
> felt (and heard, before adding oil) the cable hit the bottom of the
> pan. On
> first engine run I could hear that was too long -- the crank was
> hitting it.
> I pulled the cable out before any obvious damage was done, and
> anchored the
> handle between a couple of nearby obstacles. During a later test
> drive, the
> cable worked itself back into the engine and was hit again, that time
> breaking 2-3 strands of wire. I'm quite sure no engine damage was
> done, but
> that's not the way to determine how long it should be.
>
> Ken Snake-Bit H.
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Ken Burton <n9cv@comcast.net> wrote:
>
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>> Mr ERFisher wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 03:55
>>> Hey Ken
>>> I looked at your photo set
>>> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10817&cat=3942
>>>
>>> but I cannot find what you used for the cable you used in your
>>> "cable dip
>>> stick"
>>> I need to make one, - or two-
>>>
>>> gene
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
>>> �ive a man a fish; you have fed him for today --- give him
>>> a URL
>> and
>>
>> I just got a piece of stainless cable from the hardware store. I
>> only got
>> stainless because they happened to have it. Regular steel cable
>> will also
>> work.
>> --
>> Ken Burton - N9KB
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80317 is a reply to message #80272] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 13:08 |
Ken Burton
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I just gave it to our resident welder. I do not know how he did it. It came back solid. I'll ask him the next time I see him.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] cable dip stick [message #80355 is a reply to message #80308] |
Mon, 12 April 2010 17:45 |
fred v
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| emerystora wrote on Mon, 12 April 2010 12:26 |
I calibrated it by putting in one quart less of oil that would be full
and then started the engine to circulate the oil. I then waited a few
minutes to simulate the time it would normally be at a gas stop when I
would normally check the oil. I then checked the oil and filed a small
groove across the flat.
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this is exactly the problem that i've had. it takes my engine a long time for the oil to drain back to the pan. i can check it when getting back home; check it a half hour later; check it the next morning and i see a different reading each time. i try to go with the overnight reading and add according to that. the gas station fill seems to over fill and it blows out.
Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
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| Re: [GMCnet] CANNOT REMOVE SELF-HELP [message #80550 is a reply to message #80540] |
Wed, 14 April 2010 13:32 |
Ken Burton
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| Roger Paul wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 11:37 |
Sir Pls. help remove me from the mail list. lost sight of password. sent for re-up but so many e's cannot see. I think 300 or more on any given day.
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Someone on the email side want to help this guy?
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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