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| [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 08:19  |
Ken Henderson
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A non-GMCNet buddy is going tomorrow to collect the 425+3.21 we've been
watching for a couple of years. He's a retired Delta mechanic, has had
several GMC's, helped me install the front clip in the X-PB and recover it
from TN, helped me install the Cad, etc., etc., etc. So he's no amateur --
just never done a 3.21 before, nor have I.
So, it's time to gather all the details we need to know about installing it
in his GMC. I've got only sketchy recollections:
1. The cover gasket's no longer available so we'll need to make one or RTV
it. Right?
2. There is a gasket between the transmission & FD that IS still available
-- Anyone have a P/N?
3. The output shaft is unique (and is with unit he's buying), and the seal
for it's no longer available. A sleeve must be applied or a seal just
identified by Larry Weidner used -- I can't find Larry's posting -- Someone
please tell us what we need.
4. There was some mention somewhere about the output shaft and the idler
bearing -- what's that all about?
5. Any other details we need to know?
TIA,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79705 is a reply to message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 08:22  |
Mr ERFisher
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ask Manny,
gene
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:19 AM, Ken Henderson <hend4800@bellsouth.net>wrote:
> A non-GMCNet buddy is going tomorrow to collect the 425+3.21 we've been
> watching for a couple of years. He's a retired Delta mechanic, has had
> several GMC's, helped me install the front clip in the X-PB and recover it
> from TN, helped me install the Cad, etc., etc., etc. So he's no amateur --
> just never done a 3.21 before, nor have I.
>
> So, it's time to gather all the details we need to know about installing it
> in his GMC. I've got only sketchy recollections:
>
> 1. The cover gasket's no longer available so we'll need to make one or RTV
> it. Right?
>
> 2. There is a gasket between the transmission & FD that IS still available
> -- Anyone have a P/N?
>
> 3. The output shaft is unique (and is with unit he's buying), and the seal
> for it's no longer available. A sleeve must be applied or a seal just
> identified by Larry Weidner used -- I can't find Larry's posting -- Someone
> please tell us what we need.
>
> 4. There was some mention somewhere about the output shaft and the idler
> bearing -- what's that all about?
>
> 5. Any other details we need to know?
>
> TIA,
>
> Ken H.
> Americus, GA
> '76 X-Birchaven
> www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79707 is a reply to message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 08:32 |
C Boyd
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 09:19 |
A non-GMCNet buddy is going tomorrow to collect the 425+3.21 we've been
watching for a couple of years. He's a retired Delta mechanic, has had
several GMC's, helped me install the front clip in the X-PB and recover it
from TN, helped me install the Cad, etc., etc., etc. So he's no amateur --
just never done a 3.21 before, nor have I.
So, it's time to gather all the details we need to know about installing it
in his GMC. I've got only sketchy recollections:
1. The cover gasket's no longer available so we'll need to make one or RTV
it. Right?
2. There is a gasket between the transmission & FD that IS still available
-- Anyone have a P/N?
3. The output shaft is unique (and is with unit he's buying), and the seal
for it's no longer available. A sleeve must be applied or a seal just
identified by Larry Weidner used -- I can't find Larry's posting -- Someone
please tell us what we need.
4. There was some mention somewhere about the output shaft and the idler
bearing -- what's that all about?
5. Any other details we need to know?
TIA,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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Ken: I found this note from Larry:
RH drive axle seal. It is a seal that is non-standard and NOT specifically
designed for use in the 3.21 as an axle seal. It is NAPA part #13739. The
original seal for the 3.21 is no longer available, and this seal works
without having to sleeve the shaft in order to use the 3.07 seal.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79711 is a reply to message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 08:50 |
Larry
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| Ken Henderson wrote on Thu, 08 April 2010 08:19 |
A non-GMCNet buddy is going tomorrow to collect the 425+3.21 we've been
watching for a couple of years. He's a retired Delta mechanic, has had
several GMC's, helped me install the front clip in the X-PB and recover it
from TN, helped me install the Cad, etc., etc., etc. So he's no amateur --
just never done a 3.21 before, nor have I.
So, it's time to gather all the details we need to know about installing it
in his GMC. I've got only sketchy recollections:
1. The cover gasket's no longer available so we'll need to make one or RTV
it. Right?
2. There is a gasket between the transmission & FD that IS still available
-- Anyone have a P/N?
3. The output shaft is unique (and is with unit he's buying), and the seal
for it's no longer available. A sleeve must be applied or a seal just
identified by Larry Weidner used -- I can't find Larry's posting -- Someone
please tell us what we need.
4. There was some mention somewhere about the output shaft and the idler
bearing -- what's that all about?
5. Any other details we need to know?
TIA,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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Hey Ken...
I sent you a private email. 
Larry 
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79713 is a reply to message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 08:49 |
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Ken,
I'm just about to hit the hay. See CAPS below.
Nighty nite!
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Henderson
Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2010 11:20 PM
To: gmclist
Subject: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
A non-GMCNet buddy is going tomorrow to collect the 425+3.21 we've been
watching for a couple of years. He's a retired Delta mechanic, has had
several GMC's, helped me install the front clip in the X-PB and recover it
from TN, helped me install the Cad, etc., etc., etc. So he's no amateur --
just never done a 3.21 before, nor have I.
So, it's time to gather all the details we need to know about installing it
in his GMC. I've got only sketchy recollections:
1. The cover gasket's no longer available so we'll need to make one or RTV
it. Right?
AFIK YES BUT MANNY MIGHT HAVE SOME! HE DOES HAVE SOME ALUMINUM RAGUSA COVERS
FOR THE 3.21.
2. There is a gasket between the transmission & FD that IS still available
-- Anyone have a P/N?
I THINK IT'S THE SAME AS THE 3.07 SEE PICTURES BELOW:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4399
3. The output shaft is unique (and is with unit he's buying), and the seal
for it's no longer available. A sleeve must be applied or a seal just
identified by Larry Weidner used -- I can't find Larry's posting -- Someone
please tell us what we need.
CHUCK BOYD HAS PROVIDED THAT INFO.
4. There was some mention somewhere about the output shaft and the idler
bearing -- what's that all about?
THE OUTPUT SHAFT AND IDLER BEARING MOUNT BRACKET ON A CADDY 500 IS DIFFERENT
FROM THE ONE ON AN OLDS 455. THE CADDY BRACKET IS "SLANTED" AND THE OLDS
BRACKET STRAIGHT.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=3956
5. Any other details we need to know?
TIA,
Ken H.
Americus, GA
'76 X-Birchaven
www.gmcwipersetc.com
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79758 is a reply to message #79704] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 12:23 |
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Ken, I just went through all of this 2 months ago. We need a FAQ for this that is easy to find.
The gasket for the FD to the Tranny is the same as the 3.07. They are easily avail. $11 If I recall. I think it is a bit thin, however.
If you make a cover gasket, make it thick. the thin stuff is leaking on my FD and I need to redo it. I may RTV it.It is leaking 90 wt all over my new tranny pan!!!
Manny is the man for the shaft. He will ship you a shaft with a new bearing and spacer ring all ready pressed on, plus he has a double seal that fits that. The unit he ships is nice and clean, and repainted. His Price is unbeatable! You will need to send him both of your old shafts. (Which reminds me, I still need to do that!).
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79794 is a reply to message #79758] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 18:54 |
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Thanks, Chris, we'll use that information.
I agree that we need a FAQ area for such things. Seems to me we started one
some time ago, but I don't recall where it was nor whether anyone's still
using it. For the GMCMH-EFI Google Group, we've just started using one of
the nice features of Google Groups: An area where pages can be created for
permanent display and editing. We're posting "Tips" and "Tweaks" in a
Wiki-style format so that we can preserve and easily locate recurring
topics. Sure wish we had an easily accessible archive of all the marvelous
information that's been repeatedly posted and repeated and repeated and
repeated here over the years -- like how to install a 3.21 final drive. :-)
Ken H.
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Chris Choffat <cchoffataz@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Ken, I just went through all of this 2 months ago. We need a FAQ for this
> that is easy to find.
>
> The gasket for the FD to the Tranny is the same as the 3.07. They are
> easily avail. $11 If I recall. I think it is a bit thin, however.
>
> If you make a cover gasket, make it thick. the thin stuff is leaking on my
> FD and I need to redo it. I may RTV it.It is leaking 90 wt all over my new
> tranny pan!!!
>
> Manny is the man for the shaft. He will ship you a shaft with a new bearing
> and spacer ring all ready pressed on, plus he has a double seal that fits
> that. The unit he ships is nice and clean, and repainted. His Price is
> unbeatable! You will need to send him both of your old shafts. (Which
> reminds me, I still need to do that!).
> --
> -Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
> 77 Ex-Kingsley 455, Power Drive, 3:21 FD U S S Kobiashi Maru: The
> Engineer's Motorhome
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79796 is a reply to message #79794] |
Thu, 08 April 2010 19:12 |
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Ken,
I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up, clean, inspect; and if
it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to install in Double Trouble
in July. I will take step by step pictures and write instructions if I do
install it.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Sent: Friday, 9 April 2010 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
Thanks, Chris, we'll use that information.
I agree that we need a FAQ area for such things. Seems to me we started one
some time ago, but I don't recall where it was nor whether anyone's still
using it. For the GMCMH-EFI Google Group, we've just started using one of
the nice features of Google Groups: An area where pages can be created for
permanent display and editing. We're posting "Tips" and "Tweaks" in a
Wiki-style format so that we can preserve and easily locate recurring
topics. Sure wish we had an easily accessible archive of all the marvelous
information that's been repeatedly posted and repeated and repeated and
repeated here over the years -- like how to install a 3.21 final drive. :-)
Ken H.
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The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79840 is a reply to message #79804] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 00:58 |
Chuck Garton
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The Nose Backet for the 3.21 is different than the 3.07, and must be
from a 66 or 67 Toronado.
Chuck Garton
77 Kingsley 455
Ridgecrest, CA
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe you should just stop by here for that task and we'll let Jerry wait
> until then to install his so we can do both of them.
>
> We're expecting to use my cherry picker battery lift to hoist that 85#+
> sucker in place (he's even older than I am, if you can believe that (by 3
> days)). :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>>
>> I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up, clean, inspect; and
>> if
>> it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to install in Double Trouble
>> in July. I will take step by step pictures and write instructions if I do
>> install it.
>>
>>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79858 is a reply to message #79840] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 08:35 |
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Chuck,
That's a point I didn't remember, if I've ever seen it. And it may pose a
problem because the 425+3.21 have been sitting under a junkyard shelter for
years; the bracket may well be missing.
Does anyone have an alternative to suggest?
Ken H.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Chuck Garton <chuck210@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Nose Backet for the 3.21 is different than the 3.07, and must be
> from a 66 or 67 Toronado.
>
> Chuck Garton
> 77 Kingsley 455
> Ridgecrest, CA
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Maybe you should just stop by here for that task and we'll let Jerry wait
> > until then to install his so we can do both of them.
> >
> > We're expecting to use my cherry picker battery lift to hoist that 85#+
> > sucker in place (he's even older than I am, if you can believe that (by 3
> > days)). :-)
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken,
> >>
> >> I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up, clean, inspect;
> and
> >> if
> >> it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to install in Double
> Trouble
> >> in July. I will take step by step pictures and write instructions if I
> do
> >> install it.
> >>
> >>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79862 is a reply to message #79858] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 08:45 |
Steven Ferguson
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Ken,
Not saying that it's the best way, but there are sure a lot of final
drives out there that don't have bolts in the nose mounting. I drove
mine around for 5-6 years that way with no problems that I'm aware of.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chuck,
>
> That's a point I didn't remember, if I've ever seen it. And it may pose a
> problem because the 425+3.21 have been sitting under a junkyard shelter for
> yevars; the bracket may well be missing.
>
> Does anyone have an alternative to suggest?
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Chuck Garton <chuck210@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Nose Backet for the 3.21 is different than the 3.07, and must be
>> from a 66 or 67 Toronado.
>>
>> Chuck Garton
>> 77 Kingsley 455
>> Ridgecrest, CA
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Maybe you should just stop by here for that task and we'll let Jerry wait
>> > until then to install his so we can do both of them.
>> >
>> > We're expecting to use my cherry picker battery lift to hoist that 85#+
>> > sucker in place (he's even older than I am, if you can believe that (by 3
>> > days)). :-)
>> >
>> > Ken H.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up, clean, inspect;
>> and
>> >> if
>> >> it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to install in Double
>> Trouble
>> >> in July. I will take step by step pictures and write instructions if I
>> do
>> >> install it.
>> >>
>> >>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79866 is a reply to message #79862] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 08:58 |
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Steve,
Because I don't have any alternative without R&R my custom front mount,
that's the way I'm going to run the Cad, at least for a while. Not sure
Jerry Holloway will want to leave his 3.21 "loose" though. :-)
Ken H.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Ken,
> Not saying that it's the best way, but there are sure a lot of final
> drives out there that don't have bolts in the nose mounting. I drove
> mine around for 5-6 years that way with no problems that I'm aware of.
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Chuck,
> >
> > That's a point I didn't remember, if I've ever seen it. And it may pose
> a
> > problem because the 425+3.21 have been sitting under a junkyard shelter
> for
> > yevars; the bracket may well be missing.
> >
> > Does anyone have an alternative to suggest?
> >
> > Ken H.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Chuck Garton <chuck210@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The Nose Backet for the 3.21 is different than the 3.07, and must be
> >> from a 66 or 67 Toronado.
> >>
> >> Chuck Garton
> >> 77 Kingsley 455
> >> Ridgecrest, CA
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Maybe you should just stop by here for that task and we'll let Jerry
> wait
> >> > until then to install his so we can do both of them.
> >> >
> >> > We're expecting to use my cherry picker battery lift to hoist that
> 85#+
> >> > sucker in place (he's even older than I am, if you can believe that
> (by 3
> >> > days)). :-)
> >> >
> >> > Ken H.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Rob Mueller <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Ken,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up, clean, inspect;
> >> and
> >> >> if
> >> >> it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to install in Double
> >> Trouble
> >> >> in July. I will take step by step pictures and write instructions if
> I
> >> do
> >> >> install it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79948 is a reply to message #79866] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 20:51 |
Kosier
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Ken,
Just drill the hole in the 3:21 out to the same size as the later
FD and
use the later mounting bracket. Personally, I weld the nut on
the inside
to make it easier for a one-man operation. JWID
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Henderson" <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
> Steve,
>
> Because I don't have any alternative without R&R my custom
> front mount,
> that's the way I'm going to run the Cad, at least for a while.
> Not sure
> Jerry Holloway will want to leave his 3.21 "loose" though. :-)
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Steven Ferguson
> <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>> Not saying that it's the best way, but there are sure a lot
>> of final
>> drives out there that don't have bolts in the nose mounting.
>> I drove
>> mine around for 5-6 years that way with no problems that I'm
>> aware of.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Ken Henderson
>> <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Chuck,
>> >
>> > That's a point I didn't remember, if I've ever seen it. And
>> > it may pose
>> a
>> > problem because the 425+3.21 have been sitting under a
>> > junkyard shelter
>> for
>> > yevars; the bracket may well be missing.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have an alternative to suggest?
>> >
>> > Ken H.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Chuck Garton
>> > <chuck210@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Nose Backet for the 3.21 is different than the 3.07,
>> >> and must be
>> >> from a 66 or 67 Toronado.
>> >>
>> >> Chuck Garton
>> >> 77 Kingsley 455
>> >> Ridgecrest, CA
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Ken Henderson
>> >> <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Maybe you should just stop by here for that task and
>> >> > we'll let Jerry
>> wait
>> >> > until then to install his so we can do both of them.
>> >> >
>> >> > We're expecting to use my cherry picker battery lift to
>> >> > hoist that
>> 85#+
>> >> > sucker in place (he's even older than I am, if you can
>> >> > believe that
>> (by 3
>> >> > days)). :-)
>> >> >
>> >> > Ken H.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Rob Mueller
>> >> > <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Ken,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have a 3.21 FD in Houston that I intend to open up,
>> >> >> clean, inspect;
>> >> and
>> >> >> if
>> >> >> it is in good shape I will take it to the COOP to
>> >> >> install in Double
>> >> Trouble
>> >> >> in July. I will take step by step pictures and write
>> >> >> instructions if
>> I
>> >> do
>> >> >> install it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> '76 EII
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79950 is a reply to message #79948] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 21:09 |
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USAussie
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Gary,
Do you have any pictures of WYD?
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
-----Original Message-----
From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kosier
Sent: Saturday, 10 April 2010 11:51 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
Ken,
Just drill the hole in the 3:21 out to the same size as the later
FD and use the later mounting bracket. Personally, I weld the nut on
the inside to make it easier for a one-man operation. JWID
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79956 is a reply to message #79950] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 21:47 |
Kosier
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Uhhhhh..... no.
I had originally powder coated that bracket and the front
motor mount. When putting it together, I remembered
what a PITA trying to hold the nut and start the bolt was.
So I just grabbed another bracket, welded the nut fast and
gave it a quick spray-paint job and installed it. I now use
a long extension and the impact to R&R the bolt. JWID
Gary Kosier
77EII & 77PB
Newark, Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Mueller" <robmueller@iinet.net.au>
To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
> Gary,
>
> Do you have any pictures of WYD?
>
> Regards,
> Rob Mueller
> Sydney, Australia
> AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
> USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org
> [mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Kosier
> Sent: Saturday, 10 April 2010 11:51 AM
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive
>
> Ken,
>
> Just drill the hole in the 3:21 out to the same size as the
> later
> FD and use the later mounting bracket. Personally, I weld the
> nut on
> the inside to make it easier for a one-man operation. JWID
>
> Gary Kosier
> 77EII & 77PB
> Newark, Ohio
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] 3.21 Final Drive [message #79959 is a reply to message #79704] |
Fri, 09 April 2010 22:55 |
Chr$
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I just went to the next smaller diameter bolt. I think orig is a 3/8 and I went to a 5/16.
-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ
77 Ex-Kingsley 455 SOLD!
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