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Ron is currently offline  Ron   United States
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Hi all..
Well I give up. It might ave wrecked my vacation now..
I went to drain the holding tank this evening in preparation to leave Santa Fe tomorrow morning..
The tank will not empty.. we don't use it for any solids.. That is right no poop nothing..
I have had it..
The coach is for sale..
I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer.. So I have no clue what is blocking it.. I will try to back flush it in the morning. But am thinking I am going to turn around and go home!
Apparently I am just not cut out for one of these classics.
Totally Done in..
Ron


now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79490 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Ron,

Silly question - is it possible that the tank / lines / valve is frozen?

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Hi all..
Well I give up. It might ave wrecked my vacation now..
I went to drain the holding tank this evening in preparation to leave Santa
Fe tomorrow morning..
The tank will not empty.. we don't use it for any solids.. That is right no
poop nothing..
I have had it..
The coach is for sale..
I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer.. So I have no
clue what is blocking it.. I will try to back flush it in the morning. But
am thinking I am going to turn around and go home!
Apparently I am just not cut out for one of these classics.
Totally Done in..
Ron
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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79491 is a reply to message #79490] Tue, 06 April 2010 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ron is currently offline  Ron   United States
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Rob..
Nope its chilly but not freezing!
It's going to be interesting to see if I can get it uncorked in the morning..
I am so weary of this..
Ron


now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79492 is a reply to message #79491] Tue, 06 April 2010 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron, do you have a maserator or just a regular 3 inch drain?
A couple of years ago my 12 volt gate pulled out of the blade and would not open. That is the only time our's has failed to dump, except when I have busted the pump, couple of times.
If you have a maserator, go around it and use the 3 inch dump.
I know your frustration but please don't let it ruin your vacation. Call me if you need to.
573-421-5165.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79498 is a reply to message #79492] Tue, 06 April 2010 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ron is currently offline  Ron   United States
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Dan..
Standard 3 inch drain.. Gate valve appears to be working...
It has already spoiled a good time. I give up!


now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79499 is a reply to message #79492] Tue, 06 April 2010 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron,
Get a good night rest and things will be looking better.
Remember it took me 3 times to get my coach to get to the
International Convention.
Sometimes the solids will accumilate at the vave and form a dam. Drive
it around town and slosh the waste around.



On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> Ron, do you have a maserator or just a regular 3 inch drain?
> A couple of years ago my 12 volt gate pulled out of the blade and would not open. That is the only time our's has failed to dump, except when I have busted the pump, couple of times.
> If you have a maserator, go around it and use the 3 inch dump.
> I know your frustration but please don't let it ruin your vacation. Call me if you need to.
> 573-421-5165.
> Dan
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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79500 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nelson Wright is currently offline  Nelson Wright   United States
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Ron,
Another silly question, maybe it's empty and the gauge doesn't work.
You state that there are no solids, so a slow drip would have drained
the tank over time:-)

Nelson Wright
Orlando,Fl.
77El II
78 Royale
Smart towd

On Apr 6, 2010, at 10:06 PM, rhusak wrote:

>
>
> Hi all..
> Well I give up. It might ave wrecked my vacation now..
> I went to drain the holding tank this evening in preparation to
> leave Santa Fe tomorrow morning..
> The tank will not empty.. we don't use it for any solids.. That is
> right no poop nothing..
> I have had it..
> The coach is for sale..
> I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer.. So I have
> no clue what is blocking it.. I will try to back flush it in the
> morning. But am thinking I am going to turn around and go home!
> Apparently I am just not cut out for one of these classics.
> Totally Done in..
> Ron
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> Conifer, CO
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Re: Ive Had it! [message #79501 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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Ron, Hang in there. You know I was at that point a few times along the way. Does your drain line have a cap? If not, maybe some critter took up residence in the pipe and is holding back the flow...

-Chr$: Perpetual SmartAss
Scottsdale, AZ

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Re: Ive Had it! [message #79502 is a reply to message #79501] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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Ron, turn the water off and shine a flashlite in the open toilet to see if the thing has anything in it. Like Nelson says, it could have dripped dry. If you only have a 3 inch drain I do not think anything would have blocked that. When was last time you dumped the thing? Call me, I am still up. It is only 1 pm here.
Dan
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Re: Ive Had it! [message #79504 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well I give up
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NO!! DON'T GIVE UP!!!

I was at this point about 6 months ago. My problem was an engine that did not want to give me any go go, would hesitate if I tried to go over 35mph.

Honestly, I had the match and gas can in the ready.

I knew that the GMC is the best way to travel and from my past experience with the SOB, I was no stranger to problems on the road.

In the long run, taking your room with you is the only way to go, especially if you carry dogs like I do.

Soneone just had a problem with the black tank not draining. There were a couple of people who commented. One was the shaft came loose from the valve blade and never opened. Another was actually empty and they thought it was full.

The black tank and its drainage system is a simple system. If you are on the road, like the one suggestion, drive around a little, it may break loose. We usually use the rest areas for the restrooms when in travel mode. Go enjoy yourself, this problem will turn out to be a small one, a messy one, but a small one. don't be like me and lose your cool, these things are too much fun to give her up.

Good luck

LarC ( Glad the engine power problem is gone, next item on the list? )



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testing your tank and drain [message #79505 is a reply to message #79502] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bukzin is currently offline  bukzin   United States
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Here is a tip.

My system monitor showed 2/3 full and did not want
to drain.

I finally sorted out a way to check the gate valve
and drain hose. I poured MILK down the toilet; it
came out the drain hose.
So the tank, valve and hose were fine.

The monitor/gauge needs calibration.


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach

[Updated on: Tue, 06 April 2010 23:27]

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Re: testing you tank and drain [message #79509 is a reply to message #79505] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron,

Remember the old saying "Go South Young Man, Go South" Well come South to Las Cruces and we'll figure out what's going on and fix it. I've got a place you can park at the Las Cruces Airport with 120 v, water and a place to dump. Won't cost you anything and it's on the way to Tucson.

Put some ice cubes and a little Dawn soap in before you leave Santa Fe, it'll loosen things up.

Hal Kading 77 Kingsley 455 Las Cruces NM


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Re: testing you tank and drain [message #79510 is a reply to message #79505] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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AND Ron, No coach rides and drives like a fine tuned GMC. After 5000 miles, today, I hated to pull the thing in our drive and crawl out.
When my rod pulled out of the blade I had an audience. Seems every guy in the park wanted to visit with me about the coach while I was prying the gate open with a crowbar. Just before I got it open I told them "she is about to blow" and they all left, rather quickly. I laugh about it now but I was really torqued then as it was 107 degrees on the Colorado River in California.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79511 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron,

Remember it's always darkest just before dawn! Think of all the great
campfire tales you'll have in years to come -- when the pain's worn off, as
it will.

We've voted: You're not allowed to abandon us. :-)

Ken H.


On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 10:06 PM, rhusak <rhusak@compuserve.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi all..
> Well I give up. It might ave wrecked my vacation now..
> I went to drain the holding tank this evening in preparation to leave
> Santa Fe tomorrow morning..
> The tank will not empty.. we don't use it for any solids.. That is right
> no poop nothing..
> I have had it..
> The coach is for sale..
> I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer.. So I have no
> clue what is blocking it.. I will try to back flush it in the morning. But
> am thinking I am going to turn around and go home!
> Apparently I am just not cut out for one of these classics.
> Totally Done in..
> Ron
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> 76 Eleganza II
> Conifer, CO
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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79513 is a reply to message #79488] Tue, 06 April 2010 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer..
>

often the small things bug you the most.

just one step at a time.

just fix them as they come up , it will come to an end, these little
problems (mostly ;>)

One of our members went to an SOB, at the last rally, he said he got tired
of the GMC, $100 here $100 there.

Now he is coming back, he said the SOB was $1000 here, $1000 there.....
every thing has problems.

good luck in the morning
gene

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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79514 is a reply to message #79513] Tue, 06 April 2010 23:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of our members went to an SOB, at the last rally, he said he got tired
of the GMC, $100 here $100 there.

Now he is coming back, he said the SOB was $1000 here, $1000 there.....
every thing has problems.

good luck in the morning
gene



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Amen Gene. Even when our engine "popped", out in Quartzsite this winter, I never gave a thought to buying an "offbrand". There is very little that Teri and I can not do to our coach. Ron, you are working out the bugs. If I am right, you have not really taken your coach on any long trips before now. The problem you describe now is a small thing. I am sure Wednesday you will have it overcome and be ready to roll farther south, as planned. I suspect most of us have been where you are. Life is going to get much better, quick. Call me tomorrow if you need to. I will be around here.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79517 is a reply to message #79514] Wed, 07 April 2010 00:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You need new friends that chew their food. I say logjam.

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Re: [GMCnet] Ive Had it! [message #79518 is a reply to message #79488] Wed, 07 April 2010 00:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So, what do you want for that broken down old motor home??.............terry

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:06 PM, rhusak <rhusak@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all..
>  Well I give up. It might ave wrecked my vacation now..
>  I went to drain the holding tank this evening in preparation to leave Santa Fe tomorrow morning..
>  The tank will not empty.. we don't use it for any solids.. That is right no poop nothing..
>  I have had it..
>  The coach is for sale..
>  I replaced the waste tank and the gate valve last summer.. So I have no clue what is blocking it.. I will try to back flush it in the morning. But am thinking I am going to turn around and go home!
>  Apparently I am just not cut out for one of these classics.
>  Totally Done in..
>  Ron
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> Conifer, CO
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Re: Ive Had it! [message #79522 is a reply to message #79488] Wed, 07 April 2010 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron,

I've been there. ......done that. ...and got the stinky Tee Shirt. I had the same thing happen to me when I first bought ANNIE. When hooked up at a campground, the PO would just leave the dump valve open. His thinking (?) was that it worked just like at home. Over time with the valve open so much the solids built up in almost the whole tank because all of the liquids drained out. Oh, I didn't say that one of the drain fittings had a slight leak. While in storage, in the Florida sun that stuff baked like a big brick. I had to run hot soapy water down the drain and then use my EPA gloves (rubber gloves that go up past my elbow) and a long stick to stur but finally got it to brake loose. It had the consistancy of clay slip when the dam broke. I now back flush that tank after each outing.

jim galbavy
'73 X-CL (ANNIE)
Chesterfield, Va
Re: [GMCnet] testing you tank and drain [message #79533 is a reply to message #79510] Wed, 07 April 2010 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Man,
Do I know that feeling Dan. The single worst job to deal with on an
RV and the whole world decides to drop by while you're working on it.
Sort of like RV starring Robin Williams.

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Dan Gregg <gregg_dan@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>
> AND Ron, No coach rides and drives like a fine tuned GMC. After 5000 miles, today, I hated to pull the thing in our drive and crawl out.
> When my rod pulled out of the blade I had an audience. Seems every guy in the park wanted to visit with me about the coach while I was prying the gate open with a crowbar. Just before I got it open I told them "she is about to blow" and they all left, rather quickly. I laugh about it now but I was really torqued then as it was 107 degrees on the Colorado River in California.
> Dan
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