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Wheel Balancing [message #78314] Sun, 28 March 2010 16:24 Go to next message
Oldngray is currently offline  Oldngray   United States
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Looking to get my tires/wheels balanced. Have seen mentioned using a bag?
What is recommended or suggested?


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78319 is a reply to message #78314] Sun, 28 March 2010 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tom Hampton recommended "Counteract" balancing beads and though I
thought it was probably voodoo I trusted his judgement.

Turned out to be sage advise. My 16.5" Firestone wagon wheels are well
balanced.

Larry Davick
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> Looking to get my tires/wheels balanced. Have seen mentioned using
> a bag?
> What is recommended or suggested?
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78322 is a reply to message #78319] Sun, 28 March 2010 17:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks, I found the product on the Internet, what size bag did you use?


Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78331 is a reply to message #78322] Sun, 28 March 2010 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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My records are at the office. I'll check in the morning and get back
to you.

Ljdavick at comcast.net

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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78335 is a reply to message #78331] Sun, 28 March 2010 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ljdavick wrote on Sun, 28 March 2010 19:33

My records are at the office. I'll check in the morning and get back
to you.

Ljdavick at comcast.net

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Sir: The website recommends 4oz for the 16" tire. I bought 2 14oz bags and used a postage scale to get 4 oz for each tire.
http://www.counteractbalancing.com/application1.html


C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78336 is a reply to message #78319] Sun, 28 March 2010 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:


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> Looking to get my tires/wheels balanced. Have seen mentioned using
> a bag?
> What is recommended or suggested?
>
> --
> Richard MacDonald




Richard,

Crosman Soft Air pellets, 6mm, at Wally World - about $5 for a plastic jar of thousands.
I used 4oz in each tire when we went from the old 16.5" to new 16" Eagles. That was a few thousand miles ago and they're still smooth as glass.

John


John Shotwell
Ridgeville Corners, OH
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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78347 is a reply to message #78336] Sun, 28 March 2010 19:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JShot wrote on Sun, 28 March 2010 19:47

Quote:


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> Looking to get my tires/wheels balanced. Have seen mentioned using
> a bag?
> What is recommended or suggested?
>
> --
> Richard MacDonald




Richard,

Crosman Soft Air pellets, 6mm, at Wally World - about $5 for a plastic jar of thousands.
I used 4oz in each tire when we went from the old 16.5" to new 16" Eagles. That was a few thousand miles ago and they're still smooth as glass.

Sounds good to me, I'll try it.


John




Richard MacDonald Punta Gorda, Florida Sold our TZE April 2015
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78352 is a reply to message #78336] Sun, 28 March 2010 19:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JShot wrote on Sun, 28 March 2010 18:47

Quote:


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> Looking to get my tires/wheels balanced. Have seen mentioned using
> a bag?
> What is recommended or suggested?
>
> --
> Richard MacDonald




Richard,

Crosman Soft Air pellets, 6mm, at Wally World - about $5 for a plastic jar of thousands.
I used 4oz in each tire when we went from the old 16.5" to new 16" Eagles. That was a few thousand miles ago and they're still smooth as glass.

John


I have heard of several people doing that. I just wish they were smaller diameter so I could get them in the valve stem without having to break the tire down.

I have never tried them. I use Equal in mine.


Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78405 is a reply to message #78352] Mon, 29 March 2010 08:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i tried that but my tires were more than 4 oz. out so it didn't work.

i've heard that the tires have to balance themselves after every stop so when you start off the wheels bounce a bit. have any of you experienced that?


Fred V
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P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78413 is a reply to message #78405] Mon, 29 March 2010 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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fred v wrote on Mon, 29 March 2010 09:31

i tried that but my tires were more than 4 oz. out so it didn't work.

i've heard that the tires have to balance themselves after every stop so when you start off the wheels bounce a bit. have any of you experienced that?



Fred,

I don't think our tires do that after every stop (actually not at all). If they do, we've never noticed it.

It's been said here on the net that if your tires are more than, in this case, 4oz out of balance, you should be looking for new tires.

Just what I've heard and what I've done - - -
HTH
John



John Shotwell
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out of balance [message #78421 is a reply to message #78413] Mon, 29 March 2010 10:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's been said here on the net that if your tires are more than, in this case, 4oz out of balance, you should be looking for new tires.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Basic questions here...


How much out of balance might a tire be before
you notice it?


When you say 4oz out, was this checked on a machine?


Thanks


Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
Re: Wheel Balancing [message #78434 is a reply to message #78314] Mon, 29 March 2010 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I used http://www.innovativebalancing.com Dyna Beads 6oz per tire.
On order page they have 6 pack dually with filtered valve cores. These beads can be put in through the valve stem, you take out the valve core and with bottle and tube (applicator)vibrate them into tire and re-inflate. I used a little "mouse" sander to vibrate the stem and really got the beads in a lot faster otherwise they tend to plug up if you put in too fast.

The results... smooth and no 60 mph vibration bounce I could not get rid of otherwise.


John Blankenship '76 Palm Beach Tulare, CA

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Re: [GMCnet] Wheel Balancing [message #78436 is a reply to message #78413] Mon, 29 March 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I also have never noticed it using Equal. I'm not saying Equal is any better than Conteract or John's Walmart - Crossman ammunition. I just happened to get it for free so I used Equal.

Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
Re: [GMCnet] out of balance [message #78446 is a reply to message #78421] Mon, 29 March 2010 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Richard,
Discount tire has a "match" balancing method where the wheel is spun
first, then the tire installed and the wheel and tire spun. The
machine will then indicate where the high spot on the tire needs to be
in relationship to the wheel. I've done this before and one tire only
tool .500 oz to balance it. I believe the counteract packets for our
application are 12 oz. 4 oz out of bal doesn't sound like too much to
me.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:
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>
>
> It's been said here on the net that if your tires are more than, in this case, 4oz out of balance, you should be looking for new tires.
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Basic questions here...
>
>
> How much out of balance might a tire be before
> you notice it?
>
>
> When you say 4oz out, was this checked on a machine?
>
>
> Thanks
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Re: [GMCnet] out of balance [message #78460 is a reply to message #78446] Mon, 29 March 2010 16:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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4 oz. Counteract is correct for 225-75R16. Any tire 12 oz out of balance
should be scrapped.

Ken H.


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:

> Richard,
> Discount tire has a "match" balancing method where the wheel is spun
> first, then the tire installed and the wheel and tire spun. The
> machine will then indicate where the high spot on the tire needs to be
> in relationship to the wheel. I've done this before and one tire only
> tool .500 oz to balance it. I believe the counteract packets for our
> application are 12 oz. 4 oz out of bal doesn't sound like too much to
> me.
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Re: [GMCnet] out of balance [message #78502 is a reply to message #78460] Mon, 29 March 2010 20:42 Go to previous message
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You are absolutely correct Ken. I don't know where I got that idea
from....maybe 12 ouncers.
Here is there website:
http://www.counteractbalancing.com/application1.html

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 4 oz. Counteract is correct for 225-75R16.  Any tire 12 oz out of balance
> should be scrapped.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Richard,
>>  Discount tire has a "match" balancing method where the wheel is spun
>> first, then the tire installed and the wheel and tire spun.  The
>> machine will then indicate where the high spot on the tire needs to be
>> in relationship to the wheel.  I've done this before and one tire only
>> tool .500 oz to balance it.  I believe the counteract packets for our
>> application are 12 oz.  4 oz out of bal doesn't sound like too much to
>> me.
>>
>>
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