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[GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78276] Sun, 28 March 2010 12:00 Go to next message
GMC_LES is currently offline  GMC_LES   United States
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I just finished pulling my frame apart and was looking at how the exhaust
system is supported. How many rubber support grommets were installed at the
factory? My coach only had 2. Since I will be going to a 3" exhaust and
relocating the front cross member to accommodate a 3rd fuel tank, I was
thinking that 3 supports might be better. Anyone know if the Jims sell the
grommet and flange?



Thanks,

Les Burt

Montreal

1975 Eleganza II 26ft



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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78277 is a reply to message #78276] Sun, 28 March 2010 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Les, Jim K. sells them. We had some at the convention. I am missing one but hate to take my 3 inch apart to put it in there. Sure does rattle with one missing.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78285 is a reply to message #78276] Sun, 28 March 2010 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Coaches only came with 2 of the donuts. You don't need an extra for
the 3"

J.R. Wright
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77 Eleganza Custom (For Sale)
1975 Avion (Under Reconstruction)
Michigan

On Mar 28, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Les Burt wrote:

> I just finished pulling my frame apart and was looking at how the
> exhaust
> system is supported. How many rubber support grommets were installed
> at the
> factory? My coach only had 2. Since I will be going to a 3" exhaust
> and
> relocating the front cross member to accommodate a 3rd fuel tank, I
> was
> thinking that 3 supports might be better. Anyone know if the Jims
> sell the
> grommet and flange?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Les Burt
>
> Montreal
>
> 1975 Eleganza II 26ft
>
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78286 is a reply to message #78276] Sun, 28 March 2010 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When I installed Jim's 3" exhaust, he said not to bother even replacing the donuts that were there as mine were not in all that bad shape. I'd say just use what the factory did, and you should be fine.

George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78290 is a reply to message #78286] Sun, 28 March 2010 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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George is correct. If the factory ones are still there, use them. The 3 inch pipe will fit through them. I was missing the front one, under the door, and Jim did not have them back then. So, I am rattling when I start our coach. It stops when the engine wams and smooths out. I plan to put a flex pipe in and will install the front "muffler bearing" at that time.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78291 is a reply to message #78286] Sun, 28 March 2010 13:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm moving the front crossmember forward to accommodate a 3rd fuel tank,
which makes the straight section of the exhaust where it runs along the
frame rail longer than original. I was wondering if installing a third
support in the first crossmember would be a help or a hindrance. The 3"
tubing doesn't have much clearance where it passes through the frame.

Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
1975 Eleganza II 26ft

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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78295 is a reply to message #78291] Sun, 28 March 2010 13:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Les,
When I did a 3 inch exhaust system JimK did not handle the red grommets nor the metal brackets -- but I see that DanG mentions they are available. I ordered the grommets from Cinnabar. At that time no one offered the brackets.

Here is a link to a photo of new brackets fabricated from stainless..
http://www.cathy-ron.com/SlideShow_assets/SlideShow.html?lang=en

In addition to the grommets and brackets -- you should also have a strap hanger on the Y pipe at the rear of the two mufflers. Just FYI, the earliest 73 coaches did not have the grommets but used strap hangers in those locations.

When Arch was involved with some 3 inch system installs he thought about splitting the bracket/grommet assembly to ease installation but I do not know how far his work went. The frames do not align well on all coaches and it is a very snug fit for the 3 inch long pipe.

Dennis


Dennis Sexton
73 GMC 230
Germantown, TN
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-----Original Message-----
From: Les Burt <burtco99@yahoo.com>
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I'm moving the front crossmember forward to accommodate a 3rd fuel tank,
hich makes the straight section of the exhaust where it runs along the
rame rail longer than original. I was wondering if installing a third
upport in the first crossmember would be a help or a hindrance. The 3"
ubing doesn't have much clearance where it passes through the frame.
Thanks,
es Burt
ontreal
975 Eleganza II 26ft
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78299 is a reply to message #78295] Sun, 28 March 2010 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Les, If I were doing what you have planned I would get another one and use it. Don't regret not doing it as it will be hard to mount one after the exhaust is in place, like mine.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78747 is a reply to message #78299] Wed, 31 March 2010 13:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think I'll go ahead and install the third support. I was worried that it
might cause more transmission of exhaust vibration into the chassis. Since
it has been stated that the frame holes are not perfectly aligned, I am now
more worried about an unsupported exhaust rattling against the frame.

Now all I need is to find someone with a spare exhaust support grommet and
flange. If I can't find one used, I'll buy new from Jim.

Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78754 is a reply to message #78295] Wed, 31 March 2010 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis

tried to access pictures of stainless steel support but your link does not work.

Michael
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78761 is a reply to message #78754] Wed, 31 March 2010 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Michael,

Here is another try at a link to the main site -- but then you have to look for the brackets, fabrication album.

http://www.cathy-ron.com/GMC%20MAIN.html


Dennis Sexton
73 GMC
Germantown, TN
USA



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Dennis
tried to access pictures of stainless steel support but your link does not work.
Michael
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78774 is a reply to message #78276] Wed, 31 March 2010 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dennis, thank you for updated link! Very professional look and restoration of that GMC! When you completely finished it will be awesome.

Michael
Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78776 is a reply to message #78774] Wed, 31 March 2010 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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No No No Michael

NOT mine!

I do admire his work.

Dennis Sexton
73 GMC

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> Dennis, thank you for updated link! Very professional look and
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Re: [GMCnet] Exhaust system supports [message #78782 is a reply to message #78276] Wed, 31 March 2010 17:44 Go to previous message
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Dennis:

Whoever's coach it is and whoever is doing the work, very professional!

Thanks
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