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Living room window gluing tricks [message #77558] Sun, 21 March 2010 20:15 Go to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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So on my '75 Royale, the drivers side window in the living room, above the couch.
The fixed pane had pulled back from the front edge like they sometimes do.

So I pulled out the window, cleaned the stuff off it and then glued it back in with black silicone RTV.

Or so I thought!
It was barely in there, so I'm trying again today...OK thats not working!

Does anyone have any tricks and tips on how to glue in the dang window??

Thanks


Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77560 is a reply to message #77558] Sun, 21 March 2010 20:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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here are some hints
http://gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#WINDOW

gene


On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> So on my '75 Royale, the drivers side window in the living room, above the
> couch.
> The fixed pane had pulled back from the front edge like they sometimes do.
>
> So I pulled out the window, cleaned the stuff off it and then glued it back
> in with black silicone RTV.
>
> Or so I thought!
> It was barely in there, so I'm trying again today...OK thats not working!
>
> Does anyone have any tricks and tips on how to glue in the dang window??
>
> Thanks
> --
> Keith
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> 29 Dodge
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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77573 is a reply to message #77560] Sun, 21 March 2010 21:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Thanks, Sounds interesting, but I don't see that part number anywhere.
I wonder if they discontinued it.


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Re: Living room window gluing tricks [message #77576 is a reply to message #77558] Sun, 21 March 2010 21:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
wally is currently offline  wally   United States
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Keith V wrote on Sun, 21 March 2010 20:15

So on my '75 Royale, the drivers side window in the living room, above the couch.
The fixed pane had pulled back from the front edge like they sometimes do.

So I pulled out the window, cleaned the stuff off it and then glued it back in with black silicone RTV.

Or so I thought!
It was barely in there, so I'm trying again today...OK thats not working!

Does anyone have any tricks and tips on how to glue in the dang window??

Thanks

Keith I think you are talking about the fixed window moving in the frame? I had the same thing and was helped by Chuck Kokesh and Pat Moore here in Omaha. They said to put screws in the center channel after the window was back in place. Be careful and don't use to long of screw, I think mine are 8-32 trimmed to just go thru the frame and not the window. Then the window can't move but you could still get it apart. I used the sun to soften up the original glue and a piece of 1/8 plywood paneling to keep steady pressure on the window to move it. Pic
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=21954&title=pushing-the-window-bac&cat=3841
If it is the whole frame in the body the D shaped gasket that Gene F pointed you to was available 4 years age when we resealed the big side windows. It worked great after shimming the frame so it would not move down anymore.
HTH


Wally Anderson
Omaha NE
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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77577 is a reply to message #77573] Sun, 21 March 2010 21:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Little Yimmy is currently offline  Little Yimmy   United States
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Keith V wrote on Sun, 21 March 2010 21:02

Thanks, Sounds interesting, but I don't see that part number anywhere.


Try here: http://www.cleanseal.com/d-section.htm

Third row down from the top, last item in the row, top number.


Little Yimmy - W9VUA
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Twin Cities, MN
Re: Living room window gluing tricks [message #77631 is a reply to message #77558] Mon, 22 March 2010 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
petemosss is currently offline  petemosss   United States
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All black silicone rtv is not created equal. Jim Bounds has tubes of it made by the glazing (glass) industry and what a difference it makes. Not easy to use but the outcome is exceptional. I have been applying over all old fixed seals in all windows and frame edges and leaks have disappeared.
Give him a call, it's not available retail or wholesale and most glass shops are pretty uncooperative when no glass selling is happening.


Pete 74 Canyon Lands 26' "Emery"
Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77676 is a reply to message #77577] Mon, 22 March 2010 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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I guess I don't see how that will hold in the window like glue does.

I called Jim B and got the scoop on RTV, I'll try that again, maybe I'll get it eventually


Keith Vasilakes
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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77772 is a reply to message #77560] Tue, 23 March 2010 17:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Waddell is currently offline  Brian Waddell   Canada
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In my case rv silicone did not work...I went to an autobody shop and bought what they used to replace winshields....expensive caulk I bought from him....kept pressure on overnit..worked well...brian 77ele455

> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:19:14 -0700
> From: mr.erfisher@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks
>
> here are some hints
> http://gmcmotorhome.info/body.html#WINDOW
>
> gene
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Keith V <my427v8@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > So on my '75 Royale, the drivers side window in the living room, above the
> > couch.
> > The fixed pane had pulled back from the front edge like they sometimes do.
> >
> > So I pulled out the window, cleaned the stuff off it and then glued it back
> > in with black silicone RTV.
> >
> > Or so I thought!
> > It was barely in there, so I'm trying again today...OK thats not working!
> >
> > Does anyone have any tricks and tips on how to glue in the dang window??
> >
> > Thanks
> > --
> > Keith
> > 69 Vette
> > 29 Dodge
> > 75 Royale GMC
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>
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Re: Living room window gluing tricks [message #77779 is a reply to message #77558] Tue, 23 March 2010 18:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
roy1 is currently offline  roy1   United States
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Keith

Several years ago my right side fixed window slid back, at that time I used some silicone and tapped it back in place . I then added a small stainless steel screw to the top and bottom of the 4 aluminum window supports (or as the book calls them Mullions). It has never leaked and it can't move with a screw at the top and bottom. Last week I had to replace the fixed glass on the left side (large one). This time I used the correct stuff it is some kind of polyurethane adhesive that replaces the original butyl stuff and it is nasty messy stuff but boy does it stick good. I got it at the auto glass place next to a Pick apart junk yard. It only costs $6 for the tube and it says for professional use only trained installers only on the tube. The mfg. is Sika Sikaflex 220+. Also Kragen had a tube of somewhat similar stuff made by 3M for windshields that will set you back $16. Good luck and your hands are going to be black for a while did I say nasty stuff.
Roy


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Re: Living room window gluing tricks [message #77797 is a reply to message #77779] Tue, 23 March 2010 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keith V is currently offline  Keith V   United States
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Thanks guys.
I'd be more than willing to pay $16 for something that gets this job DONE!


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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77798 is a reply to message #77779] Tue, 23 March 2010 21:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds like "Gorilla Snot" to me. Your auto parts store
should know what you are asking for by that name. I used
it to glue door weather-stripping back in place.

Yes, you can't keep from getting it on your fingers and
you can't wash it off, that I know of. You just have to
wait until the top layer of your epidermis grows out!

Mac Macdonald
Oklahoma City



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> From: roynpaula@charter.net
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:32:05 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks
>
>
>
> Keith
>
> Several years ago my right side fixed window slid back, at that time I used some silicone and tapped it back in place . I then added a small stainless steel screw to the top and bottom of the 4 aluminum window supports (or as the book calls them Mullions). It has never leaked and it can't move with a screw at the top and bottom. Last week I had to replace the fixed glass on the left side (large one). This time I used the correct stuff it is some kind of polyurethane adhesive that replaces the original butyl stuff and it is nasty messy stuff but boy does it stick good. I got it at the auto glass place next to a Pick apart junk yard. It only costs $6 for the tube and it says for professional use only trained installers only on the tube. The mfg. is Sika Sikaflex 220+. Also Kragen had a tube of somewhat similar stuff made by 3M for windshields that will set you back $16. Good luck and your hands are going to be black for a while did I say nasty stuff.
> Roy
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Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks [message #77801 is a reply to message #77798] Tue, 23 March 2010 21:20 Go to previous message
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Acetone, as in finger polish remover, will remove most of these glues.
 
Howard N.  

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 10:03 PM



Sounds like "Gorilla Snot" to me.  Your auto parts store
should know what you are asking for by that name.  I used
it to glue door weather-stripping back in place.

Yes, you can't keep from getting it on your fingers and
you can't wash it off, that I know of.  You just have to
wait until the top layer of your epidermis grows out!

Mac Macdonald
Oklahoma City



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> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:32:05 -0500
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Living room window gluing tricks
>
>
>
> Keith
>
> Several years ago my right side fixed window slid back, at that time I used some silicone and tapped it back in place . I then added a small stainless steel screw to the top and bottom of the 4 aluminum window supports (or as the book calls them Mullions). It has never leaked and it can't move with a screw at the top and bottom. Last week I had to replace the fixed glass on the left side (large one). This time I used the correct stuff it is some kind of polyurethane adhesive that replaces the original butyl stuff and it is nasty messy stuff but boy does it stick good. I got it at the auto glass place next to a Pick apart junk yard. It only costs $6 for the tube and it says for professional use only trained installers only on the tube. The mfg. is Sika Sikaflex 220+. Also Kragen had a tube of somewhat similar stuff made by 3M for windshields that will set you back $16. Good luck and your hands are going to be black for a while did I say nasty stuff.
> Roy
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