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Sat, 20 March 2010 16:19  |
Richard Lister
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I may have to replace the house battery. Mike said most owners "replace the one 12v with two 6v batteries in the rear for the house bank." I'm sure this has been addressed a million times but what's the reason this is a better solution than one big 12v?
Richard DC
'78 Kingsley
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Battery(s) [message #77368 is a reply to message #77365] |
Sat, 20 March 2010 16:33  |
Ken Burton
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| Richard Lister wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 16:19 |
I may have to replace the house battery. Mike said most owners "replace the one 12v with two 6v batteries in the rear for the house bank." I'm sure this has been addressed a million times but what's the reason this is a better solution than one big 12v?
Richard DC
'78 Kingsley
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You want deep cycle batteries to run the stuff in the house not a 12 volt cranking battery which most 12 volt batteries are.
Two 6 volt golf cart batteries give you much a higher storage capacity in a deep cycle battery at a relatively inexpensive cost.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Battery(s) [message #77444 is a reply to message #77365] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 09:46 |
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| Richard Lister wrote on Sat, 20 March 2010 14:19 |
I may have to replace the house battery. Mike said most owners "replace the one 12v with two 6v batteries in the rear for the house bank." I'm sure this has been addressed a million times but what's the reason this is a better solution than one big 12v?
Richard DC
'78 Kingsley
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Richard,
Golf cart style 6v batteries are very common and mass-produced. That pretty much makes them cheaper for the same energy storage than all other batteries out there. They are the desired true deep cell that is needed for "the house" application. TRUE deep cell 12v batteries are rare and because of this rarity... expensive. Most 12v batteries marketed as deep cells, like most marine batteries, are not truly deep cells -- but they still cost more!
A single 12v battery that holds the same as the 2 6v's would weigh about twice as much and is a fixed shape. As such, the 6v's are easier to fit into tight spaces and are easier on the back. The down side is the cable, with two additional connections, between the two 6v cases. You also have to have a pair of battery hold downs. (Minor issues -- IMHO)
Select batteries by weight... heavier = more lead = more storage.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
(#2)`78 23' Birchaven Rear Bath -- (#3)`77 23' Birchaven Side Bath
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Battery(s) [message #77447 is a reply to message #77444] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 09:52 |
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Ken, your furnace should never run your house battery down. Put a protection device in line. I think mine will shut down when battery voltage hits 12 volts, or there abouts. Of course, with 4 6 volts, that I have, it is not likely to run it down that low anyway. And, once we are in bed, I make sure to turn that thing all the way down. Makes for closer sleeping to Teri.  She does not read the net so she has no idea why it seems to get chillier after I hit the sack.
Dan
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Battery(s) [message #77465 is a reply to message #77365] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 12:06 |
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Go check out www.lifelinebattery.com they jabe pleanty of options for battery banks in 12 and 6 volt. Their agm batterys properly taken care of can last 10 years or more.
The only problem here with using 6 volt batteries is that when wired in series you only get the rated AH capacity of one battery. So space permitting I'd try to go with 12 volt 4 or 8d batts. However you can construct larger banks using lifelines 6v batteries given the limited space we have in our coaches....
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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| Re: [GMCnet] [GMC Net] Battery(s) [message #77525 is a reply to message #77473] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 17:51 |
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mike miller
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| tphipps wrote on Sun, 21 March 2010 10:56 |
Richard, Turn on PM for private messages. Tom Phipps, Woodbridge.
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Tom,
Do not hold your breath... Richard uses the original email version of the forum. More specifically he gets the "Digest", a single email with several postings to reduce the number of emails.
To "Turn on PM" you would have to talk him into using the web based forum. Besides, If you used email, you would have his email address! (No PM's required.) 
Richard and everyone else... Use whatever flavor of the forum you want... just keep reading and posting.
Mike Miller -- Hillsboro, OR -- on the Black list
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| Costco 6 volts [message #77532 is a reply to message #77525] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 18:46 |
bukzin
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I saw our local (California) Costco is stocking
6 volt golf cart batteries.
Look and color of them makes me thing they
may have been made by Trojan.
Were they?
Have any of you tried them?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77596 is a reply to message #77563] |
Sun, 21 March 2010 23:36 |
bukzin
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[quote title=Mr ERFisher wrote on Sun, 21 March 2010 18:24]>
> I saw our local (California) Costco is stocking
> 6 volt golf cart batteries.
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> Look and color of them makes me thing they
> may have been made by Trojan.
> Were they?
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doesn't matter
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> Have any of you tried them?
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sure
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Gene Fisher -- 74-23,77PB/ore/ca
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Gene,
Got any details?
Are they made by Trojan? Have they proven to be
'long life'?
Would you buy more?
Thanks
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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| Re: Costco 6 volts [message #77643 is a reply to message #77532] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 10:45 |
Carl S.
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I have a new set of Costco 6-V batteries in my coach that I installed in early January. I can't really vouch for their longevity, but the are working fine, and, as others have said, you can't beat the price.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77644 is a reply to message #77618] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 10:49 |
Carl S.
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Steve,
What battery fill system do you use? As you know, it is a somewhat inconvenient chore to check and fill the batteries, even with a Ragussa slide out tray. I would love to make that task easier (and fool proof).
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77657 is a reply to message #77644] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 12:24 |
Mr ERFisher
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this is what I use, 5 cents each.
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32034&title=gene-27s-bottles&cat=5375
or (non forum)
*http://tinyurl.com/ydp7q4v
but with a smart charger, and combiner, I never have to add fluid
gene
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On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Carl Stouffer <carljr3b@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Steve,
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> What battery fill system do you use? As you know, it is a somewhat
> inconvenient chore to check and fill the batteries, even with a Ragussa
> slide out tray. I would love to make that task easier (and fool proof).
> --
> Carl S.
> '75 ex Palm Beach
> Tucson, AZ.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77658 is a reply to message #77657] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 12:40 |
Carl S.
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Thanks Gene, But even with a smart charger and a combiner, in "it's a dry heat" Arizona, I have had to add water frequently (to my old batteries). Maybe the new ones will not need as much attention.
Carl Stouffer
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
Chuck Aulgur Reaction Arm Disc Brakes, Quadrabags, 3.70 LSD final drive, Lenzi knuckles/hubs, Dodge Truck 16" X 8" front wheels, Rear American Eagles, Solar battery charging. GMCSJ and GMCMI member
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77668 is a reply to message #77644] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 14:23 |
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USAussie
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Carl,
Here's what I have on the two 6 volt house batteries down the back in Double
Trouble:
http://www.flow-rite.com/battery-watering/pro-fill-rv
Here's what I have on the two 12 volt batteries up front (one start and one
house):
http://www.flow-rite.com/battery-watering/qwik-fill
They are available from Camping World:
http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/product/flow-rite-remote-battery-fill-s
ystems/4592
The system above is for 12 volt batteries but for some reason I can't find
the ones for 6 volt batteries on the Camping World website and I did buy
both of them from there.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts
Steve,
What battery fill system do you use? As you know, it is a somewhat
inconvenient chore to check and fill the batteries, even with a Ragussa
slide out tray. I would love to make that task easier (and fool proof).
--
Carl S.
'75 ex Palm Beach
Tucson, AZ.
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Regards,
Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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| Re: [GMCnet] Costco 6 volts [message #77683 is a reply to message #77644] |
Mon, 22 March 2010 17:55 |
idrob
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| Carl S. wrote on Mon, 22 March 2010 08:49 |
Steve,
What battery fill system do you use? As you know, it is a somewhat inconvenient chore to check and fill the batteries, even with a Ragussa slide out tray. I would love to make that task easier (and fool proof).
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Here is my photo shoot on the battery fill system I used:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4180
Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB
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