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hub bolt torque [message #76303] Wed, 10 March 2010 21:27 Go to next message
jayrabe is currently offline  jayrabe   United States
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Making progress in the process of getting the hub spacers installed. Thanks to all for info and advice on the jack questions. Stopped at Harbour Frieght this morning. OMG it's worse than Home Depot for a person with my weaknesses/addictions. I could hear the sucking sound pulling on my bank account when I opened the door. They didn't have any low-profile 4-ton bottle jacks, though they did have a 3-ton floor jack for $100 and some jack stands for $20. I was a little overwhelmed by it all so just looked and didn't buy. I'll make another trip to the store closer to me this weekend.

In any case, looking forward to sometime soon when I'll have a jack and jack stands and will get it up in the air and get the wheels off and put the hubs on.

So now the torque question. I may have mentioned that auto mechanic-wise I'm a real novice. I know about torque wrenches, but don't own one. When I put the hub spacers on, can I just crank them down tight to my feel, like you would putting on a tire (presumably doing the star-rotation or whatever it's called, alternating tightening from one side of the hub to the other) or do I need to buy a torque wrench?

Thanks

J "so much to learn" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR

Re: hub bolt torque [message #76304 is a reply to message #76303] Wed, 10 March 2010 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chr$ is currently offline  Chr$   United States
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I have a set of those 3 ton jackstands. they held my coach in the air safely for over a month. Glad I bought them. They are rated for 3 tons each.

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Re: hub bolt torque [message #76309 is a reply to message #76304] Wed, 10 March 2010 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fred v is currently offline  fred v   United States
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Chr$ wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 21:32

I have a set of those 3 ton jackstands. they held my coach in the air safely for over a month. Glad I bought them. They are rated for 3 tons each.

mine said 3 tons for the pair! i also bought that 3 ton jack and am happy with it.


Fred V
'77 Royale RB 455
P'cola, Fl
Re: [GMCnet] hub bolt torque [message #76312 is a reply to message #76303] Wed, 10 March 2010 21:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
USAussie is currently offline  USAussie   United States
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Jay,

I doubt that you will find low profile bottle jacks at Harbor Freight I
checked their website again and again with no luck.

Low profile bottle jacks are available from Northern Tool:

http://tinyurl.com/l3yvbg

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200318933
_200318933

Unfortunately there aren't any in Oregon. They do have a store in Houston on
I-45 and if you know anyone from your neck of the woods that would bring a
couple back for you that would save you the shipping. The reason I say two
is I use mine to stabilize the rear of the coach when we camp with a bogie
hook in both sides.

http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625

Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426

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Subject: [GMCnet] hub bolt torque

Making progress in the process of getting the hub spacers installed. Thanks
to all for info and advice on the jack questions. Stopped at Harbour Frieght
this morning. OMG it's worse than Home Depot for a person with my
weaknesses/addictions. I could hear the sucking sound pulling on my bank
account when I opened the door. They didn't have any low-profile 4-ton
bottle jacks, though they did have a 3-ton floor jack for $100 and some jack
stands for $20. I was a little overwhelmed by it all so just looked and
didn't buy. I'll make another trip to the store closer to me this weekend.

In any case, looking forward to sometime soon when I'll have a jack and jack
stands and will get it up in the air and get the wheels off and put the hubs
on.

So now the torque question. I may have mentioned that auto mechanic-wise I'm
a real novice. I know about torque wrenches, but don't own one. When I put
the hub spacers on, can I just crank them down tight to my feel, like you
would putting on a tire (presumably doing the star-rotation or whatever it's
called, alternating tightening from one side of the hub to the other) or do
I need to buy a torque wrench?

Thanks

J "so much to learn" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR


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Re: [GMCnet] hub bolt torque [message #76316 is a reply to message #76303] Wed, 10 March 2010 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mr ERFisher is currently offline  Mr ERFisher   United States
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It is not necessary to raise the whole GMC to put on the spacers, just lift
one front wheel at a time with this jackhook,and a normal bottle jack.


http://www.appliedgmc.com/prod.itml/icOid/625

gene



> In any case, looking forward to sometime soon when I'll have a jack and
> jack stands and will get it up in the air and get the wheels off and put the
> hubs on.
>
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Re: [GMCnet] hub bolt torque [message #76323 is a reply to message #76303] Thu, 11 March 2010 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steven Ferguson is currently offline  Steven Ferguson   United States
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Jay,
I doubt that you'll be able to feel 250 ft lbs of torque. Best buy
the wrench and get it over with. There is more than one pair of
fasteners on the GMC that will require you to use that wrench. You
can save some money by first checking pawn shops. Excellent men's
malls.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Making progress in the process of getting the hub spacers installed. Thanks to all for info and advice on the jack questions. Stopped at Harbour Frieght this morning. OMG it's worse than Home Depot for a person with my weaknesses/addictions. I could hear the sucking sound pulling on my bank account when I opened the door. They didn't have any low-profile 4-ton bottle jacks, though they did have a 3-ton floor jack for $100 and some jack stands for $20. I was a little overwhelmed by it all so just looked and didn't buy. I'll make another trip to the store closer to me this weekend.
>
> In any case, looking forward to sometime soon when I'll have a jack and jack stands and will get it up in the air and get the wheels off and put the hubs on.
>
> So now the torque question. I may have mentioned that auto mechanic-wise I'm a real novice. I know about torque wrenches, but don't own one. When I put the hub spacers on, can I just crank them down tight to my feel, like you would putting on a tire (presumably doing the star-rotation or whatever it's called, alternating tightening from one side of the hub to the other) or do I need to buy a torque wrench?
>
> Thanks
>
> J "so much to learn" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] hub bolt torque [message #76373 is a reply to message #76323] Thu, 11 March 2010 21:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Steven Ferguson wrote on Thu, 11 March 2010 07:34

Jay,
I doubt that you'll be able to feel 250 ft lbs of torque. Best buy
the wrench and get it over with. There is more than one pair of
fasteners on the GMC that will require you to use that wrench. You
can save some money by first checking pawn shops. Excellent men's
malls.

Steve Ferguson




Sure you can "feel" 250 ft lbs. It feels like a hernia.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
Re: hub bolt torque [message #76374 is a reply to message #76303] Thu, 11 March 2010 21:22 Go to previous message
Craig Lechowicz is currently offline  Craig Lechowicz   United States
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Steve wrote:
>Sure you can "feel" 250 ft lbs. It feels like a hernia.

Off topic, but a homeowner orders a couple of plants in large concrete planters. The delivery man and the homeowner struggle mightily to unload them from the truck, and place them on the porch. After he catches his breath, the homeowner mentions to the driver, "boy that sure is a dandy double hernia you've got there" The driver says, "oh, I just deliver them, I don't know what they're called"


Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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