| [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76082] |
Tue, 09 March 2010 09:10  |
Patrick Flowers
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Charter is once again blocking GMCnet traffic as spam. Since this is a
recurring issue on about a 6 month frequency and their remediation process
is a royal pita, I've decided that I can no longer support Charter as an
ISP. I would suggest that those using Charter find another ISP or use a
gmail or yahoo account for GMCnet.
I realize that this email will likely not reach those affected, but
hopefully they'll pick it up on the forum...
Patrick
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76236 is a reply to message #76229] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 09:35  |
Patrick Flowers
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Thanks for trying Matt! It's not unusual for GMCnet to get tagged as spam
due to the large volume of email the server produces. Most ISPs have a
pretty good remediation system - fill out a form with IP address, contact
info, etc. and within 24 hours the ban is lifted.
Charter's system is more difficult than that, involving resending(not
forwarding) the entire blocked message including headers to a specific
address. Not quite as easy as it sounds with Mailman. Even so, if I only
had to do it once, then I could live with it. Every six months - no thank
you.
I hate making life difficult for you guys on Charter, but I've reached the
end of my rope with them...
Patrick
On Wed, March 10, 2010 10:04 am, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Patrick Flowers wrote on Tue, 09 March 2010 10:10
>> Charter is once again blocking GMCnet traffic as spam. Since this is a
>> recurring issue on about a 6 month frequency and their remediation
>> process is a royal pita, I've decided that I can no longer support
>> Charter as an ISP. I would suggest that those using Charter find
>> another ISP or use a gmail or yahoo account for GMCnet.
>>
>> I realize that this email will likely not reach those affected, but
>> hopefully they'll pick it up on the forum...
>>
>> Patrick -- GMCnet Listmaster
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> Patrick,
> I just spent about an half hour tearing everybody at Charter that I could
> find a brand new one.
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> This is a real problem for me because I us with several machines. It is
> not possible to "leave messages on the server" and then read them again
> from another machine with G-mail.
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> I'm going to keep on trying.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76240 is a reply to message #76236] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 09:53 |
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Matt Colie
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| Patrick Flowers wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 10:35 |
Thanks for trying Matt! It's not unusual for GMCnet to get tagged as spam due to the large volume of email the server produces. Most ISPs have a pretty good remediation system - fill out a form with IP address, contact info, etc. and within 24 hours the ban is lifted.
Charter's system is more difficult than that, involving resending(not forwarding) the entire blocked message including headers to a specific address. Not quite as easy as it sounds with Mailman. Even so, if I only had to do it once, then I could live with it. Every six months - no thank
you.
I hate making life difficult for you guys on Charter, but I've reached the end of my rope with them...
Patrick
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Well Patrick,
I'm going to try to grab that better end and heave on it a while more.
Is there some way I can load two @ddresses so I can see if I have any success?
Back to Nasty-gram creation mode.
Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76247 is a reply to message #76229] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 10:46 |
dmumert
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Hi Matt
Gmail has a setting to leave messages on the server when you are using a POP
client to read your mail, I think that should also allow messages to be read
by another POP email client.
Gmail also supports IMAP which should work even better than POP.
The settings are on the Gmail 'Settings' page under the 'Forwarding and
POP/IMAP' tab. They provide a nicely done configuration guide for Outlook
and Outlook Express as well as a few others.
Good luck
Dave Mumert
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again
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> Patrick,
> I just spent about an half hour tearing everybody at Charter that I could
find a
> brand new one.
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> This is a real problem for me because I us with several machines. It is
not
> possible to "leave messages on the server" and then read them again from
> another machine with G-mail.
>
> I'm going to keep on trying.
>
> Matt
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76248 is a reply to message #76240] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 11:05 |
Patrick Flowers
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On Wed, March 10, 2010 10:53 am, Matt Colie wrote:
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> Is there some way I can load two @ddresses so I can see if I have any
> success?
Sure, there's no limit to the number of subscribed addresses that you can
use with Mailman.
> Back to Nasty-gram creation mode.
sic 'em...
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76250 is a reply to message #76240] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 11:15 |
Ken Burton
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Be real careful using gmail for all of your uses. It is OK for receiving mail but sending is a different story. My ISP blocks all gmail originated mail as SPAM. They are a well recognized SPAM provider. I had to submit a request to my ISP to allow several gmail users (including Ken H.) to be accepted and passed to me.
Ken Burton - N9KB
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Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] Charter Online - Once again [message #76276 is a reply to message #76247] |
Wed, 10 March 2010 15:31 |
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Matt Colie
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| DMumert wrote on Wed, 10 March 2010 11:46 |
Hi Matt
Gmail has a setting to leave messages on the server when you are using a POP
client to read your mail, I think that should also allow messages to be read
by another POP email client.
Gmail also supports IMAP which should work even better than POP.
The settings are on the Gmail 'Settings' page under the 'Forwarding and POP/IMAP' tab. They provide a nicely done configuration guide for Outlook and Outlook Express as well as a few others.
Good luck
Dave Mumert
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Dave,
I found and configured that long ago, but for some reason I still cannot fathom, when a message has been read by one of the machines, it can never be read (downloaded) by the other. The message can only be read by the first machine to read it. It does remain on the G-mail server.
Now I Know I don't know....
I just went and looked at the settings again and all of a sudden all the stuff still waiting on the G-mail server got picked up by my mail client (not ever again will that be Outlook).
But I still need to get away from the G-mail problem.
Matt
Matt & Mary Colie - Chaumière -'73 Glacier 23 - Members GMCMI, GMCGL, GMCES
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