| faded plastic [message #75743] |
Fri, 05 March 2010 18:49  |
jayrabe
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page 2:
same picture:
http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32566&title=p3050029&cat=5410
Note the yellow fading/UV-damage on the section that had been covered by the cabinets. Is this cleanable/removable? Some secret proprietary product perhaps? I tried cleaning it with scotchbrite and both 409 and comet, with no effect.
Thanks,
J "don't seem much closer to the end, regardless of all the activity" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75745 is a reply to message #75743] |
Fri, 05 March 2010 19:03  |
Charles
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Jay,
The present cracks will not hurt anything.It does need to be stop drilled.
Stop drilling might prevent it from continuing further. To stop drill it,
I would use about a 3/8 inch drill and drill through right at the end
of the existing crack. Be careful while drilling as these headliners
are getting old and brittle. Stress cracks are quite common. It you
decide to repair it. You should take it down and repair it from the
back side. The repair can be almost any good plastic repair material.
I have used both fiberglass and JB weld.
Charles
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From: "Jay Rabe" <jayrabe@hotmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: [GMCnet] faded plastic
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> page 2:
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> same picture:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32566&title=p3050029&cat=5410
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> Note the yellow fading/UV-damage on the section that had been covered by
> the cabinets. Is this cleanable/removable? Some secret proprietary product
> perhaps? I tried cleaning it with scotchbrite and both 409 and comet, with
> no effect.
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> Thanks,
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> J "don't seem much closer to the end, regardless of all the activity" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75754 is a reply to message #75745] |
Fri, 05 March 2010 20:35 |
Ron
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Jay..
I used a SEM spray paint.. Found an exact match with it. Painted the front cap and the rear.. Ordered mine from Eastwood Automotive.. Worked great covered very well.. Dittos on the stop drill..
Ron
now a P.O.
Conifer, CO
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75783 is a reply to message #75777] |
Fri, 05 March 2010 23:38 |
jayrabe
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OK, so the yellowing is not cleanable. Painting requires removal of the whole piece, or else a LOT of taping and plastic shielding. Has anyone ever done a fabric covering, applying it like wallpaper, probably with contact cement?
J "searching for an easier solution" Rabe
76 PB
Portland, OR
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:11:04 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic
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> jayrabe wrote on Fri, 05 March 2010 16:49
> > page 2:
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> > same picture:
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> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32566&title=p3050029&cat=5410
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> > Note the yellow fading/UV-damage on the section that had been covered by the cabinets. Is this cleanable/removable? Some secret proprietary product perhaps? I tried cleaning it with scotchbrite and both 409 and comet, with no effect.
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> > Thanks,
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> > J "don't seem much closer to the end, regardless of all the activity" Rabe
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Portland, OR
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> That old banana yellow is a change in the plastic itself, and cannot be cleaned. Use Krylon Fusion paint for plastics, it works very well. This is a link to what I did.
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4491
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> former owner of '76 x-PB
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75789 is a reply to message #75783] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 04:32 |
Ken Burton
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It is not that difficult to get them out. I removed mine in 1/2 hour to 45 minutes. Then I scrubbed it down with simple green and rinsed thoroughly. After that I painted it Vinyl paint from Menards in spray cans. It still like new about 5 years later. It took a little linger to reinstall it.
I'm thinking about pulling the front cap again to install some additional insulation up there.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75790 is a reply to message #75743] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 05:04 |
Mr ERFisher
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Well , now you did it,
I did not see that you were getting into the whole headliner thing ;>)
I should have led you here to see what Rob and many others have done
http://gmcmotorhome.info/living.html#head
good luck, we have all been here
gene
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> page 2:
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> same picture:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32566&title=p3050029&cat=5410
>
> Note the yellow fading/UV-damage on the section that had been covered by
> the cabinets. Is this cleanable/removable? Some secret proprietary product
> perhaps? I tried cleaning it with scotchbrite and both 409 and comet, with
> no effect.
>
> Thanks,
>
> J "don't seem much closer to the end, regardless of all the activity" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
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| Re: faded plastic [message #75791 is a reply to message #75743] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 05:17 |
Rusty
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acetone will 'clean' the plastic but be very careful it actually dissolves it if you wipe too long. Use fine cotton cloth and experiment first. You may want to just paint it.
Rusty
75 Glenbrook
Philadelphia Pa
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75793 is a reply to message #75743] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 06:37 |
Steven Ferguson
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Jay,
Many of us use SEM vinyl dye to paint plastics as well as vinyl.
Extremely durable and easy to use. Many colors available in addition
to white.
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> page 2:
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> same picture:
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> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32566&title=p3050029&cat=5410
>
> Note the yellow fading/UV-damage on the section that had been covered by the cabinets. Is this cleanable/removable? Some secret proprietary product perhaps? I tried cleaning it with scotchbrite and both 409 and comet, with no effect.
>
> Thanks,
>
> J "don't seem much closer to the end, regardless of all the activity" Rabe
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
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| Re: faded plastic [message #75803 is a reply to message #75743] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 17:34 |
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I redid mine with Kryon Fusion from my local Ace Hardware, and it seems to be holding up wonderfully. It's a lot easier than you might think to remove the panels, so don't let that deter you if you want to redo the finish. You should hawever follow the instructions carefully (ie clean with an ammonia based cleaner and use multiple, thin coats rather than a couple of heavy coats of paint).
I think that using a fabric covering will cause you problems as the fabric invariable seems to lose its grip and fall down unless attached by mechanical means.
George Rudawsky
Chicago, IL
75 Palm Beach
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| Re: [GMCnet] faded plastic [message #75821 is a reply to message #75783] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 19:58 |
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| jayrabe wrote on Sat, 06 March 2010 00:38 |
OK, so the yellowing is not cleanable. Painting requires removal of the whole piece, or else a LOT of taping and plastic shielding. Has anyone ever done a fabric covering, applying it like wallpaper, probably with contact cement?
J "searching for an easier solution" Rabe
76 PB
Portland, OR
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I had my upholster to put the fabric that is used in Chevy pickups on the head liner. It works great and is a little sound barrier.
Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
www.bdub.net/Motorhome_Enhancements New Windows and Aluminum Radiators
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| Re: faded plastic [message #75836 is a reply to message #75743] |
Sat, 06 March 2010 21:48 |
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too bad someone doesnt make an OEM replacement head liner for the drivers area...
73 Canyon Lands, (a.k.a. The Yellow Submarine) West Los Angeles CA
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