| [GMCnet] Wi- Fi [message #75376] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 10:30  |
paul h cashman
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Hi All,
Some locations will not allow ,outgoing e-mail to be sent, via their STMP
server
An Article suggested ,to use a web based e-mail account, if you need to send
e-mail, while in this free location.
I was on vacation last year at a R-V Park with free wi-fi and I couldn't
send e-mail. One time, was at Perry Ga at a Rally.
My Outgoing (SMTP)is( mail.bellsouth.net) I have another e-mail account
paulcashman1@live.com do I just replace( mail.bellsouth.net) with that?
Thanks.
Paul Cashman
Riverdale Ga
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wi- Fi [message #75380 is a reply to message #75376] |
Tue, 02 March 2010 11:40  |
Dave Motorhome
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I think what the article is refering to is to not use, mircosoft
outlook, or whatever mail client you use on the pc. instead connect
via the web/internet to "looks like bell south" ???
http://www.bellsouth.com/
in the left side it says quicklinks:
check email:
you should be able to log in there and send and recieve emails.. it
all takes place on the web server not your pc.
I use gmail or cox, but the results will be the same.
hope that helps, let me know if you have nay other questions.
David
75 Glenbrook
Broken Arrow, OK
http://75glenbrook.googlepages.com/
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Paul Cashman <paulcashman@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Some locations will not allow ,outgoing e-mail to be sent, via their STMP
> server
> An Article suggested ,to use a web based e-mail account, if you need to send
> e-mail, while in this free location.
> I was on vacation last year at a R-V Park with free wi-fi and I couldn't
> send e-mail. One time, was at Perry Ga at a Rally.
> My Outgoing (SMTP)is( mail.bellsouth.net) I have another e-mail account
> paulcashman1@live.com do I just replace( mail.bellsouth.net) with that?
> Thanks.
> Paul Cashman
> Riverdale Ga
>
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| Re: [GMCnet] Wi- Fi [message #75489 is a reply to message #75376] |
Wed, 03 March 2010 05:02 |
Ken Burton
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Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Paul,
You need to determine what problem you have. If you email works at some locations on the road but not at others then the first item below does not apply to you.
If your problem is just one of logging in, then setting up your email program to log in to your SMTP server will fix your problems. This easily fixes about 90% of the "on the road" problems. Most ISPs have this but do not tell you about it.
In Outlook Express this is done by clicking on:
1. Tools (at the top of the screen)
2. Account
3. Mail
4. Properties
4a. Note at this point, your userid and password displayed on the screen.
5. Servers
6. At the bottom of that page is a block to you need check that says "My server requires authentication"
7. Click on the rectangle to the right that says "Settings..."
On the next screen
1. Click on "Logon using" and "Remember Password"
2. Enter your userid and password in the appropriate blocks. This userid and password is almost always the same as the one you observed in step 4a. above.
3. Click on "OK", "OK" again, and "Close"
Note: Your user id may be xxxx or it may be xxxx@xxxx.com
Example: If my user is: xxxx, the block may require xxxx or it could be xxxx@comcast.net
You will have to try both to find out which one your ISP is looking for.
I suggest you set this up before you leave home. If it works from home it should also work for you on the road.
The set up on other email programs is similar but the procedure shown here but will not be exactly the same. I have successfully set this up on Outlook, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, Lotus Notes, and even one time on the Mac mail program that I forgot the name of so it is possible on almost all mail platforms.
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If you have the problem where the ISP you are attached to refuses to forward your email to your home email server (the port 25 problem), there are several approaches you can use.
1. USE that ISP's mail server. This is a matter figuring out their server name. Usually it is SMTP.ISP.com (or net) or on some smaller ISPs it is mail.ISP.com. Note: mail.isp.com is usually used for inbound but I have also seen it use do for outbound also.
This is exactly what we did at the Berrien Spring rally. At that rally GMCMI ordered a DSL line and broadcast the DSL service throughout the GMC parking and meeting room areas. Since we were the owner / renter of the line I simply asked for the server info. from the carrier. Later I also found that Emery had already figured it out on his own and posted it for all to use.
As an example the outgoing server is the one at comcast which is smtp.comcast.net. The one at FlyingJ is smtp.tonservices.com. Ton Services is the name of their ISP. I believe SMTP.flyingj.com also works. I have forgotten since I have not used it for a long time. At most ISPs if you are directly attached to them and using their server you do not need a user id and password to send mail.
Delivering mail to ISPs on a port other than 25 also works and that is what Dave Mumert was showing in his posting.
For one rally a friend of mine in Kentucky and I set up a server to do just that. He received our the email on another port and then transferred it on to Cox Cable on our behalf.
Another solution, as Dan suggested, if you can put up with a the limitations and quirks of a web based email system, Is to used web based mail. It may be the easiest solution for on the road access. In my case on comcast I can just sign into www.comcast.net and get my mail that way. My old ISP also offered the same web service as an option. I have only used it a few times but it will work and is easy to use.
There are also "free" web mail services like Yahoo.com, MSN.com, and Gmail.com to name a few. Be aware that you sometimes get what you paid for with free services and you have no recourse when something does not work as expected or your mailbox is compromised. If someone gets into your account and changes your password you have no way to prove that you are the real owner and they are very unresponsive to your cries for help. I know of two occasions where this happened. On one of them the one the hackers got in they requested updated passwords from ebay and paypal to be sent to that email account which was already registered with ebay and paypal. It took a couple of months to clear it all up and quite a bit of money was never recovered.
In general you have much more security with an email account with an ISP that you pay for than you do on the free ones.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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