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Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or something
like that. Next stop was Monahans, Texas. All day long the engine is
giving me trouble. Any kind of a grade and the engine would start
missing and coughing and sputtering. By this time I am running on the
reserve (front tank) and switching to the main (rear tank) when it
tries to quit. Several times, when it quit, I looked down into the
carburetor and gas was bubbling out the jets. Maybe one of the
mufflers are plugged and over heating the crossover. Or maybe it could
be the ignition control module. I always carry a spare in my GMC. Or
maybe it could be the plugs are gapped too far. This is a ’73 and back
then it was 0.065, now we use 0.045. Don’t forget the fuel filter in
the carb inlet. Plus a couple in line filters to install at each tank.
That auto parts store made a fortune off me. I spent two days in the
RV park next to the golf course changing these things. Even found a
muffler shop that would cut out the original mufflers and replace them
with straight pipes. That cost me $165. Next day here we go again. For
those that have not been in this part of Texas it is flatter than a
pancake and we are running at 65 to 70 MPH. No more snow, or rain for
that matter. Then we started getting close to El Paso and the GMC
started acting up. Same thing, switching tanks back and forth. By the
time I got thru El Paso the GMC would only run on the reserve tank and
then only down hill. What a mess. I found an RV park in Las Cruces and
spent the night. Next day I rigged a 5 gallon can inside with a 3/8
hose running out the window and down to the selector valve. That way I
could run on the reserve tank and switch to the 5 gallon tank when she
was acting up. What did you expect from an alley mechanic?? Yes, I
used lots of duct tape to hold it in place………..Terry
PS tomorrow will be page four and a little easier


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Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three……… [message #75209 is a reply to message #75204] Sun, 28 February 2010 18:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ljdavick is currently offline  ljdavick   United States
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Terry,

On my trip out fom Ohio to California my biggest regret is that I
didn't have Tom Hampton replace my fuel lines. They acted very
similarly to what you describe with the added benefit of spewing gas
all over the gas station when it thought it was full.

I don't know if you read the thread two or three months ago regarding
fuel filters. Jim B stongly suspects that this stuff we refer to as
gasoline today is breaking down lots of gunk and clogging the filters.

I would be inclined to pick up a dozen filters and install an inline
filter to get you home.

Good luck and keep up the great posts!

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
Ljdavick at comcast.net

On Feb 28, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or
> something
> like that. Next stop was Monahans, Texas. All day long the engine is
> giving me trouble. Any kind of a grade and the engine would start
> missing and coughing and sputtering. By this time I am running on the
> reserve (front tank) and switching to the main (rear tank) when it
> tries to quit. Several times, when it quit, I looked down into the
> carburetor and gas was bubbling out the jets. Maybe one of the
> mufflers are plugged and over heating the crossover. Or maybe it could
> be the ignition control module. I always carry a spare in my GMC. Or
> maybe it could be the plugs are gapped too far. This is a ’73 and ba
> ck
> then it was 0.065, now we use 0.045. Don’t forget the fuel filter in
> the carb inlet. Plus a couple in line filters to install at each tank.
> That auto parts store made a fortune off me. I spent two days in the
> RV park next to the golf course changing these things. Even found a
> muffler shop that would cut out the original mufflers and replace them
> with straight pipes. That cost me $165. Next day here we go again. For
> those that have not been in this part of Texas it is flatter than a
> pancake and we are running at 65 to 70 MPH. No more snow, or rain for
> that matter. Then we started getting close to El Paso and the GMC
> started acting up. Same thing, switching tanks back and forth. By the
> time I got thru El Paso the GMC would only run on the reserve tank and
> then only down hill. What a mess. I found an RV park in Las Cruces and
> spent the night. Next day I rigged a 5 gallon can inside with a 3/8
> hose running out the window and down to the selector valve. That way I
> could run on the reserve tank and switch to the 5 gallon tank when she
> was acting up. What did you expect from an alley mechanic?? Yes, I
> used lots of duct tape to hold it in place………..Terry
> PS tomorrow will be page four and a little easier
>
>
> --
> Terry Skinner
> 253-686-2624
> Roy. Washington
> '76 GMC
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Fremont, Ca
Howell EFI + EBL + Electronic Dizzy
Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three......... [message #75213 is a reply to message #75209] Sun, 28 February 2010 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What a ride. Glad it was not me.
dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three……… [message #75214 is a reply to message #75209] Sun, 28 February 2010 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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Larry, I am home. Stay tuned for more installments.............terry

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Terry,
>
> On my trip out fom Ohio to California my biggest regret is that I
> didn't have Tom Hampton replace my fuel lines. They acted very
> similarly to what you describe with the added benefit of spewing gas
> all over the gas station when it thought it was full.
>
> I don't know if you read the thread two or three months ago regarding
> fuel filters. Jim B stongly suspects that this stuff we refer to as
> gasoline today is breaking down lots of gunk and clogging the filters.
>
> I would be inclined to pick up a dozen filters and install an inline
> filter to get you home.
>
> Good luck and keep up the great posts!
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> Ljdavick at comcast.net
>
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or
>> something
>> like that. Next stop was Monahans, Texas. All day long the engine is
>> giving me trouble. Any kind of a grade and the engine would start
>> missing and coughing and sputtering. By this time I am running on the
>> reserve (front tank) and switching to the main (rear tank) when it
>> tries to quit. Several times, when it quit, I looked down into the
>> carburetor and gas was bubbling out the jets. Maybe one of the
>> mufflers are plugged and over heating the crossover. Or maybe it could
>> be the ignition control module. I always carry a spare in my GMC. Or
>> maybe it could be the plugs are gapped too far. This is a ’73 and ba
>> ck
>> then it was 0.065, now we use 0.045. Don’t forget the fuel filter in
>> the carb inlet. Plus a couple in line filters to install at each tank.
>> That auto parts store made a fortune off me. I spent two days in the
>> RV park next to the golf course changing these things. Even found a
>> muffler shop that would cut out the original mufflers and replace them
>> with straight pipes. That cost me $165. Next day here we go again. For
>> those that have not been in this part of Texas it is flatter than a
>> pancake and we are running at 65 to 70 MPH. No more snow, or rain for
>> that matter. Then we started getting close to El Paso and the GMC
>> started acting up. Same thing, switching tanks back and forth. By the
>> time I got thru El Paso the GMC would only run on the reserve tank and
>> then only down hill. What a mess. I found an RV park in Las Cruces and
>> spent the night. Next day I rigged a 5 gallon can inside with a 3/8
>> hose running out the window and down to the selector valve. That way I
>> could run on the reserve tank and switch to the 5 gallon tank when she
>> was acting up. What did you expect from an alley mechanic?? Yes, I
>> used lots of duct tape to hold it in place………..Terry
>> PS tomorrow will be page four and a little easier
>>
>>
>> --
>> Terry Skinner
>> 253-686-2624
>> Roy. Washington
>> '76 GMC
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Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three……… [message #75215 is a reply to message #75209] Sun, 28 February 2010 18:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry,
I'm sure when you get back, you'll sit back and laugh at all the
events that you experienced.
Duct tape is the best thing to have.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Terry,
>
> On my trip out fom Ohio to California my biggest regret is that I
> didn't have Tom Hampton replace my fuel lines. They acted very
> similarly to what you describe with the added benefit of spewing gas
> all over the gas station when it thought it was full.
>
> I don't know if you read the thread two or three months ago regarding
> fuel filters. Jim B stongly suspects that this stuff we refer to as
> gasoline today is breaking down lots of gunk and clogging the filters.
>
> I would be inclined to pick up a dozen filters and install an inline
> filter to get you home.
>
> Good luck and keep up the great posts!
>
> Larry Davick
> The Mystery Machine
> Ljdavick at comcast.net
>
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or
>> something
>> like that. Next stop was Monahans, Texas. All day long the engine is
>> giving me trouble. Any kind of a grade and the engine would start
>> missing and coughing and sputtering. By this time I am running on the
>> reserve (front tank) and switching to the main (rear tank) when it
>> tries to quit. Several times, when it quit, I looked down into the
>> carburetor and gas was bubbling out the jets. Maybe one of the
>> mufflers are plugged and over heating the crossover. Or maybe it could
>> be the ignition control module. I always carry a spare in my GMC. Or
>> maybe it could be the plugs are gapped too far. This is a ’73 and ba
>> ck
>> then it was 0.065, now we use 0.045. Don’t forget the fuel filter in
>> the carb inlet. Plus a couple in line filters to install at each tank.
>> That auto parts store made a fortune off me. I spent two days in the
>> RV park next to the golf course changing these things. Even found a
>> muffler shop that would cut out the original mufflers and replace them
>> with straight pipes. That cost me $165. Next day here we go again. For
>> those that have not been in this part of Texas it is flatter than a
>> pancake and we are running at 65 to 70 MPH. No more snow, or rain for
>> that matter. Then we started getting close to El Paso and the GMC
>> started acting up. Same thing, switching tanks back and forth. By the
>> time I got thru El Paso the GMC would only run on the reserve tank and
>> then only down hill. What a mess. I found an RV park in Las Cruces and
>> spent the night. Next day I rigged a 5 gallon can inside with a 3/8
>> hose running out the window and down to the selector valve. That way I
>> could run on the reserve tank and switch to the 5 gallon tank when she
>> was acting up. What did you expect from an alley mechanic?? Yes, I
>> used lots of duct tape to hold it in place………..Terry
>> PS tomorrow will be page four and a little easier
>>
>>
>> --
>> Terry Skinner
>> 253-686-2624
>> Roy. Washington
>> '76 GMC
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Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three……… [message #75226 is a reply to message #75209] Sun, 28 February 2010 20:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
UziYaH is currently offline  UziYaH   United States
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What happened to page two? It never showed up on my computer. Could someone repost it?
 
Thanks!
 
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78', 'Rocinante'
Greeneville, Tn.

--- On Sun, 2/28/10, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:


From: Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three………
To: "gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org" <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 7:43 PM


Terry,

On my trip out fom Ohio to California my biggest regret is that I 
didn't have Tom Hampton replace my fuel lines. They acted very 
similarly to what you describe with the added benefit of spewing gas 
all over the gas station when it thought it was full.

I don't know if you read the thread two or three months ago regarding 
fuel filters. Jim B stongly suspects that this stuff we refer to as 
gasoline today is breaking down lots of gunk and clogging the filters.

I would be inclined to pick up a dozen filters and install an inline 
filter to get you home.

Good luck and keep up the great posts!

Larry Davick
The Mystery Machine
Ljdavick at comcast.net

On Feb 28, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Terry Skinner <gmcnut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or 
> something
> like that. Next stop was Monahans, Texas. All day long the engine is
> giving me trouble. Any kind of a grade and the engine would start
> missing and coughing and sputtering. By this time I am running on the
> reserve (front tank) and switching to the main (rear tank) when it
> tries to quit. Several times, when it quit, I looked down into the
> carburetor and gas was bubbling out the jets. Maybe one of the
> mufflers are plugged and over heating the crossover. Or maybe it could
> be the ignition control module. I always carry a spare in my GMC. Or
> maybe it could be the plugs are gapped too far. This is a ’73 and ba
> ck
> then it was 0.065, now we use 0.045. Don’t forget the fuel filter in
> the carb inlet. Plus a couple in line filters to install at each tank.
> That auto parts store made a fortune off me. I spent two days in the
> RV park next to the golf course changing these things. Even found a
> muffler shop that would cut out the original mufflers and replace them
> with straight pipes. That cost me $165. Next day here we go again. For
> those that have not been in this part of Texas it is flatter than a
> pancake and we are running at 65 to 70 MPH. No more snow, or rain for
> that matter. Then we started getting close to El Paso and the GMC
> started acting up. Same thing, switching tanks back and forth. By the
> time I got thru El Paso the GMC would only run on the reserve tank and
> then only down hill. What a mess. I found an RV park in Las Cruces and
> spent the night. Next day I rigged a 5 gallon can inside with a 3/8
> hose running out the window and down to the selector valve. That way I
> could run on the reserve tank and switch to the 5 gallon tank when she
> was acting up. What did you expect from an alley mechanic?? Yes, I
> used lots of duct tape to hold it in place………..Terry
> PS tomorrow will be page four and a little easier
>
>
> --
> Terry Skinner
> 253-686-2624
> Roy. Washington
> '76 GMC
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E-10-o-C
Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three……… [message #75229 is a reply to message #75204] Sun, 28 February 2010 21:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Terry Skinner wrote on Sun, 28 February 2010 18:20

Best laid plans, page three………another day another dollar, or something
like that.

Terry Skinner




Thanks for posting this. I'm doing a lot of work on ours before we take it out. Your posts so far are reminding me why I'm doing that work. I think I'll print them out and tape them to the side of Smurffie so I can read them again when I get a bit discouraged about it taking so long.


Steve Southworth
1974 Glacier TZE064V100150 (for workin on)
1975 Transmode TZE365V100394 (parts & spares)
Palmyra WI
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Terry,

In case you haven't looked it up in the interim, '73&4 were basic Kettering ignition and the plugs only gapped at 0.035 ~0.040 and there in no module in the distributor unless it has been changed.

Can't wait for page 4

Matt


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Re: [GMCnet] Best laid plans, page three&#65533;&#65533;&#65533; [message #75265 is a reply to message #75235] Mon, 01 March 2010 08:39 Go to previous message
Terry Skinner is currently offline  Terry Skinner   United States
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I didn't think of that. There are a lot of improvements to this coach
but they were done long before the PO. I don't think he knows how to
lock the doors.<G>.............Terry

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Matt Colie <mcolie@chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>
> Terry,
>
> In case you haven't looked it up in the interim, '73&4 were basic Kettering ignition and the plugs only gapped at 0.035 ~0.040 and there in no module in the distributor unless it has been changed.
>
> Can't  wait for page 4
>
> Matt
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