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Larry is currently offline  Larry   United States
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Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front? Seems that the only ones reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage. I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...

Any thoughts??


Larry Smile
78 Royale w/500 Caddy
Menomonie, WI.
Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74892 is a reply to message #74885] Wed, 24 February 2010 12:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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yup on a front blowout. Tire had been deflated earlier and prolly
that led to it's demise. It did take out the shroud from over the
tire and folded it up against the front. Took it out and it resumed
it's original shape. Happened at 65 mph and was completely
controllable to a stop on the road side.

Roger, who also lost a left rear a while ago as well. It was a very
old tire.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74909 is a reply to message #74885] Wed, 24 February 2010 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry,
For some reason everyone wants to put the new tires on the front and
swap the worn ones to the rear. I learned that you want the good
tires in the rear because a blowout or flat tire in the front can be
controlled by the steering. No so when a rear goes. I learned this
at the GM training center in Mpls, and heard it again in a segment in
the CA P.O.S.T. academy.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front?  Seems that the only ones reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage.  I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...
>
> Any thoughts??
> --
> Larry  :)
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74910 is a reply to message #74909] Wed, 24 February 2010 16:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Steve, What would recommend for a tire rotation sequence then. I'm thinking
of doing that.

Thanks,


Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA


From: "Steven Ferguson" <botiemad11@gmail.com>
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Larry,
For some reason everyone wants to put the new tires on the front and
swap the worn ones to the rear. I learned that you want the good
tires in the rear because a blowout or flat tire in the front can be
controlled by the steering. No so when a rear goes. I learned this
at the GM training center in Mpls, and heard it again in a segment in
the CA P.O.S.T. academy.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front? Seems that the only ones
> reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage.
> I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when
> turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...
>
> Any thoughts??
> --
> Larry :)
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74911 is a reply to message #74909] Wed, 24 February 2010 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marsh Wilkes is currently offline  Marsh Wilkes   United States
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Ferguson" <botiemad11@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out


Larry,
For some reason everyone wants to put the new tires on the front and
swap the worn ones to the rear. I learned that you want the good
tires in the rear because a blowout or flat tire in the front can be
controlled by the steering. No so when a rear goes. I learned this
at the GM training center in Mpls, and heard it again in a segment in
the CA P.O.S.T. academy.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
>
>
> Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front? Seems that the only ones
> reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage.
> I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when
> turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...
>
> Any thoughts??
> --
> Larry :)
> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
> Menomonie, WI.
> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>
Hi Steve,

You are referring to 4 wheel vehicles, right? I agree there. On the GMC I
have had a blowout (actually a "blow off") nothing but a wheel when I got
stopped, and a complete tread loss on the rear, with no effect on vehicle
control whatever. I think this is because of the tandem wheels. I have not
had a blowout on the front of a GMC but Roger Black did and had no problem
with control.
On a GMC it's kind of a toss up new on front or rear, the rear seems to be
harder on tires ( more likely to blow on the rear), but for hydroplaning you
want the most tread depth on the front and I am more comfortable with a blow
out on the rear.
Does that confuse the issue enough.
If anyone has had a blowout on a GMC please speak up and tell us what
happened!

Marsh Wilkes
Perry Florida



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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74922 is a reply to message #74911] Wed, 24 February 2010 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
WD0AFQ is currently offline  WD0AFQ   United States
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I have never had a blow out on the GMC, I rotate 2 tires out every 2 years for new ones. Nearly every blowout I have seen was probably caused by a hot tire running low air pressure. I am scared of blowouts so I run the sensors on all 10 wheels.
Dan


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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74923 is a reply to message #74922] Wed, 24 February 2010 18:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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Dan,
10 hum ?
What do you do with the other 8?
Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74924 is a reply to message #74923] Wed, 24 February 2010 18:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gary Worobec is currently offline  Gary Worobec   United States
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Charles, Its for the the towd. I have a Pressure Pro system for the 6 wheels
on the coach and might add 4 more sensors for the towd.

Thanks

Gary and Joanne Worobec
1973 GMC Glacier
Anza, CA
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> Dan,
> 10 hum ?
> What do you do with the other 8?
> Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74928 is a reply to message #74911] Wed, 24 February 2010 19:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If anyone has had a blowout on a GMC please speak up and tell us what
happened!

Marsh Wilkes
Perry Florida



Marsh'
I have had two complete blowouts with total tread loss. One occured on a test drive at 50 mph on left rear tandem, no problem with control and pulling over. It was an old tire. The second complete shredding of 6 yr old tire was on our drive home from purchase, it again was left rear tandem and it was at about 60 mph on interstate. No problem slowing down or pulling over and I did it quickly because it took out the air lines to the bag and coached dropped quickly.


Larry Dilk
Indianapolis, IN
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74934 is a reply to message #74924] Wed, 24 February 2010 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Charles is currently offline  Charles   United States
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Thanks for clearing that up. I thought he had gone to an 18 wheeler
and was only changing 10..
Charles
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> Charles, Its for the the towd. I have a Pressure Pro system for the 6
> wheels
> on the coach and might add 4 more sensors for the towd.
>
> Thanks
>
> Gary and Joanne Worobec
> 1973 GMC Glacier
> Anza, CA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles" <gcw13@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out
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>> Dan,
>> 10 hum ?
>> What do you do with the other 8?
>> Charles
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Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74943 is a reply to message #74934] Wed, 24 February 2010 21:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Charles, I thought you could count. 6 plus 4 = 10. Very Happy
dan


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Re: Tires blowing out [message #74946 is a reply to message #74885] Wed, 24 February 2010 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Larry
I agree with your thought on the rear tire wear. I had a center tire throw the tread after a panic stop. My thinking is the center tire is the one that gets the most wear. If I only bought two tires I would put them on the center.
Jim Wagner
Brook Park, oh

Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front? Seems that the only ones reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage. I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...
Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out [message #74956 is a reply to message #74911] Thu, 25 February 2010 06:21 Go to previous message
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That is correct Marsh.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Marsh Wilkes <gmc455@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Ferguson" <botiemad11@gmail.com>
> To: <gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Tires blowing out
>
>
> Larry,
>  For some reason everyone wants to put the new tires on the front and
> swap the worn ones to the rear.  I learned that you want the good
> tires in the rear because a blowout or flat tire in the front can be
> controlled by the steering.  No so when a rear goes.  I learned this
> at the GM training center in Mpls, and heard it again in a segment in
> the CA P.O.S.T. academy.
>
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Larry <weidnerl@wwt.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Has anyone ever had a blowout on the front? Seems that the only ones
>> reporting blowouts are at the rear...usually doing considerable damage.
>> I've often wondered if maybe the squirm that our tires experience when
>> turning corners contributes to the demise of the rears...
>>
>> Any thoughts??
>> --
>> Larry :)
>> 78 Royale w/500 Caddy
>> Menomonie, WI.
>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>
> Hi  Steve,
>
> You are referring to 4 wheel vehicles, right? I agree there. On the GMC I
> have had a blowout (actually a "blow off") nothing but a wheel when I got
> stopped, and a complete tread loss on the rear, with no effect on vehicle
> control whatever. I think this is because of the tandem wheels. I have not
> had a blowout on the front of a GMC but Roger Black did and had no problem
> with control.
> On a GMC it's kind of a toss up new on front or rear, the rear seems to be
> harder on tires ( more likely to blow on the rear), but for hydroplaning you
> want the most tread depth on the front and I am more comfortable with a blow
> out on the rear.
> Does that confuse the issue enough.
> If anyone has had a blowout on a GMC please speak up and tell us what
> happened!
>
> Marsh Wilkes
> Perry Florida
>
>
>
> --
> Steve Ferguson
> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
> Urethane bushing source
> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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