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Fri, 19 February 2010 22:09

jayrabe

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Location: Portland, OR

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I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382

How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or replaced a steering wheel before.

Thanks

J
Portland, OR

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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74422 is a reply to message #74419]

Fri, 19 February 2010 22:24

GMCWiperMan

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Jay,

Almost any GM steering wheel will fit almost any GM vehicle, except, of
course, for those with air bags. I'd say all will fit all, but someone's
bound to know of an exception.

The biggest trick is finding how the horn button is attached. The two most
common, AFAIK, are springs which let you just pull the horn button straight
off -- those may be restricted to simple round center buttons; and, those
retained by two screws inserted from the "down" side of the spokes -- those
obviously for buttons with "spoke ears".

Once you get the button off, you'll find a nut on the end of the steering
column; sometimes there will be a circlip or similar locking device to
prevent the nut from coming off. With that out of the way, remove the nut.
If you're very lucky, or very strong, the wheel may then slide right off of
the splined column. Usually, you'll need the steering wheel puller you
borrowed from AutoZone or another auto parts store. That tool will probably
have a pair of bolts to go through its body and into the two tapped holes in
the hub of the steering wheel. It will also have a forcing screw in the
center of its body to push down on the countersunk center of the steering
column. Turning that bolt will pull the wheel right off; a drop or two of
penetrating oil might help.

Before you pull the wheel, notice the position of the little spring loaded
contact that extends throught the hub of the steering wheel -- you want to
be careful not to damage that when you remove the wheel, and to reposition
it correctly when installing the replacement wheel.

The wheel will usually fit only one way because of the way the splines are
cut, but some may allow varying a notch or two -- note the position of your
old wheel, leave the column locked, and put the replacement on at the same
angle.

Once you get the horn button off, it's all very obvious and easy.

I like your choice.

Ken H.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it
> severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO
> installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of
> different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the
> dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382
>
> How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or
> replaced a steering wheel before.
>
>
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Re: steering wheels [message #74428 is a reply to message #74419]

Sat, 20 February 2010 01:19

idrob

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jayrabe wrote on Fri, 19 February 2010 20:09

I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382

How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or replaced a steering wheel before.

Thanks

J
Portland, OR

This is how to pull and replace and repair the steering wheel:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4510

This was the one I put on my coach:

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3906

Hope that helps

Rob Allen
former owner of '76 x-PB

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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74432 is a reply to message #74428]

Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40

jayrabe

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Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.

Thanks

J

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:19:32 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
>
>
> jayrabe wrote on Fri, 19 February 2010 20:09
> > I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382
> >
> > How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or replaced a steering wheel before.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > J
> > Portland, OR
>
>
> This is how to pull and replace and repair the steering wheel:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=4510
>
> This was the one I put on my coach:
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php?cat=3906
>
> Hope that helps
>
> --
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> former owner of '76 x-PB
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74433 is a reply to message #74432]

Sat, 20 February 2010 05:19

Ken Burton

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jayrabe wrote on Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40

Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.

Thanks

If you haven't bought one yet also look at the S-10 S-15 truck steering wheel. It also only has 2 spokes and they are low mounted. The center is also available with a GMC logo if you get it off of an S-15 GMC truck. They are about $15.00 at most junk yards.

Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana

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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74439 is a reply to message #74432]

Sat, 20 February 2010 07:27

GMCWiperMan

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J,

Those are great pictures, but there are about 5 times as many as you need if
you're only going to replace the wheel -- you don't even have to remove the
black plastic cap, much less any of the stuff beneath it.

Ken H.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get
> into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's
> all a bit in the future.
>
> Thanks
>
> J
>
>
>
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Re: steering wheels [message #74449 is a reply to message #74419]

Sat, 20 February 2010 09:52

Keith V

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Thats a real nice steering wheel!
The S-10 wheel is functional but kinda ugly.

Keith Vasilakes
Mounds View. MN
75 ex Royale GMC
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74470 is a reply to message #74433]

Sat, 20 February 2010 13:09

jayrabe

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Thanks Ken. I've seen the S-10 wheels, and yes, they do have low-mounted spokes and much better visibility, but just from an aesthetic perspective I like the angled spokes on the 442 wheel much better than the horizontal spokes on the S-10.

J "call me picky" Rabe :-)
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR

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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:19:23 -0600
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
>
>
> jayrabe wrote on Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40
> > Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> If you haven't bought one yet also look at the S-10 S-15 truck steering wheel. It also only has 2 spokes and they are low mounted. The center is also available with a GMC logo if you get it off of an S-15 GMC truck. They are about $15.00 at most junk yards.
> --
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> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74480 is a reply to message #74470]

Sat, 20 February 2010 14:24

Steven Ferguson

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Jay,
I'll bet that puppy costs a ton more than the S-10 one does. Sure
looks nice though.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken. I've seen the S-10 wheels, and yes, they do have low-mounted spokes and much better visibility, but just from an aesthetic perspective I like the angled spokes on the 442 wheel much better than the horizontal spokes on the S-10.
>
> J "call me picky" Rabe � :-)
> 76 Palm Beach
> Portland, OR
>
>
>
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
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>> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:19:23 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>>
>>
>>
>> jayrabe wrote on Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40
>> > Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>>
>> If you haven't bought one yet also look at the S-10 S-15 truck steering wheel. �It also only has 2 spokes and they are low mounted. �The center is also available with a GMC logo if you get it off of an S-15 GMC truck. �They are about $15.00 at most junk yards.
>> --
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>> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74481 is a reply to message #74480]

Sat, 20 February 2010 14:29

jayrabe

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You're right, the blue one I missed on ebay was $50, and this red one is $30, vs. probably $15 for an S-10. But you pay your money and take your choice.

J

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:24:24 -0700
> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
> Jay,
> I'll bet that puppy costs a ton more than the S-10 one does. Sure
> looks nice though.
>
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Ken. I've seen the S-10 wheels, and yes, they do have low-mounted spokes and much better visibility, but just from an aesthetic perspective I like the angled spokes on the 442 wheel much better than the horizontal spokes on the S-10.
> >
> > J "call me picky" Rabe :-)
> > 76 Palm Beach
> > Portland, OR
> >
> >
> >
> >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> >> From: n9cv@comcast.net
> >> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:19:23 -0600
> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> jayrabe wrote on Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40
> >> > Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >>
> >> If you haven't bought one yet also look at the S-10 S-15 truck steering wheel. It also only has 2 spokes and they are low mounted. The center is also available with a GMC logo if you get it off of an S-15 GMC truck. They are about $15.00 at most junk yards.
> >> --
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> >> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74487 is a reply to message #74422]

Sat, 20 February 2010 15:12

UziYaH

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Our steering wheel was pretty nasty from sun damage, when we bought our coach, so replaced it with one on Tom Whitton's found at:

http://www.conceptsteeringwheels.com/

It cost a fortune, ...but we love that we did it. Video of same at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5C3qsOFBAQ

May be pictures at:

http://tinyurl.com/cvrn2u

Howard ~n~ Doreen Nylander
Royale Class of ‘78’, ‘Rocinante’
Afton, Tn.

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 11:24 PM

Jay,

Almost any GM steering wheel will fit almost any GM vehicle, except, of
course, for those with air bags. I'd say all will fit all, but someone's
bound to know of an exception.

The biggest trick is finding how the horn button is attached. The two most
common, AFAIK, are springs which let you just pull the horn button straight
off -- those may be restricted to simple round center buttons; and, those
retained by two screws inserted from the "down" side of the spokes -- those
obviously for buttons with "spoke ears".

Once you get the button off, you'll find a nut on the end of the steering
column; sometimes there will be a circlip or similar locking device to
prevent the nut from coming off. With that out of the way, remove the nut.
If you're very lucky, or very strong, the wheel may then slide right off of
the splined column. Usually, you'll need the steering wheel puller you
borrowed from AutoZone or another auto parts store. That tool will probably
have a pair of bolts to go through its body and into the two tapped holes in
the hub of the steering wheel. It will also have a forcing screw in the
center of its body to push down on the countersunk center of the steering
column. Turning that bolt will pull the wheel right off; a drop or two of
penetrating oil might help.

Before you pull the wheel, notice the position of the little spring loaded
contact that extends throught the hub of the steering wheel -- you want to
be careful not to damage that when you remove the wheel, and to reposition
it correctly when installing the replacement wheel.

The wheel will usually fit only one way because of the way the splines are
cut, but some may allow varying a notch or two -- note the position of your
old wheel, leave the column locked, and put the replacement on at the same
angle.

Once you get the horn button off, it's all very obvious and easy.

I like your choice.

Ken H.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it
> severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO
> installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of
> different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the
> dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.
>
>
> http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382
>
> How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or
> replaced a steering wheel before.
>
>
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74488 is a reply to message #74487]

Sat, 20 February 2010 15:49

jayrabe

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Hi Howard,

Yes, they are beautiful steering wheels, though not what I'm looking for.

On another note, I'd admired the pictures from awhile ago of your wood headliner, and wondered what thickness of boards you used?

Thanks.

J "more projects than time" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:12:36 -0800
> From: uziyah@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
> Our steering wheel was pretty nasty from sun damage, when we bought our coach, so replaced it with one on Tom Whitton's found at:
>
> http://www.conceptsteeringwheels.com/
>
> It cost a fortune, ...but we love that we did it. Video of same at:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5C3qsOFBAQ
>
> May be pictures at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cvrn2u
>
> Howard ~n~ Doreen Nylander
> Royale Class of �78�, �Rocinante�
> Afton, Tn.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 11:24 PM
>
>
> Jay,
>
> Almost any GM steering wheel will fit almost any GM vehicle, except, of
> course, for those with air bags. I'd say all will fit all, but someone's
> bound to know of an exception.
>
> The biggest trick is finding how the horn button is attached. The two most
> common, AFAIK, are springs which let you just pull the horn button straight
> off -- those may be restricted to simple round center buttons; and, those
> retained by two screws inserted from the "down" side of the spokes -- those
> obviously for buttons with "spoke ears".
>
> Once you get the button off, you'll find a nut on the end of the steering
> column; sometimes there will be a circlip or similar locking device to
> prevent the nut from coming off. With that out of the way, remove the nut.
> If you're very lucky, or very strong, the wheel may then slide right off of
> the splined column. Usually, you'll need the steering wheel puller you
> borrowed from AutoZone or another auto parts store. That tool will probably
> have a pair of bolts to go through its body and into the two tapped holes in
> the hub of the steering wheel. It will also have a forcing screw in the
> center of its body to push down on the countersunk center of the steering
> column. Turning that bolt will pull the wheel right off; a drop or two of
> penetrating oil might help.
>
> Before you pull the wheel, notice the position of the little spring loaded
> contact that extends throught the hub of the steering wheel -- you want to
> be careful not to damage that when you remove the wheel, and to reposition
> it correctly when installing the replacement wheel.
>
> The wheel will usually fit only one way because of the way the splines are
> cut, but some may allow varying a notch or two -- note the position of your
> old wheel, leave the column locked, and put the replacement on at the same
> angle.
>
> Once you get the horn button off, it's all very obvious and easy.
>
> I like your choice.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it
> > severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO
> > installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of
> > different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the
> > dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.
> >
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382
> >
> > How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or
> > replaced a steering wheel before.
> >
> >
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74491 is a reply to message #74488]

Sat, 20 February 2010 16:52

UziYaH

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Hi Jay,

All wood material was purchased from Lowe's closet liner department. Cedar - 3/8 X 31/2 X 8' (longitudinals) - Cross members - oak beams 3/4 X 3? X 8'. Add Liquid Nails, pop rivets and stainless steel screws and collars. Don't forget the liniment for your will be stiff neck.

Good fun. Easy to do. Good luck.

Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78'
Afton, Tn.

--- On Sat, 2/20/10, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 4:49 PM

Hi Howard,

Yes, they are beautiful steering wheels, though not what I'm looking for.

On another note, I'd admired the pictures from awhile ago of your wood headliner, and wondered what thickness of boards you used?

Thanks.

J "more projects than time" Rabe
76 Palm Beach
Portland, OR

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:12:36 -0800
> From: uziyah@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
> Our steering wheel was pretty nasty from sun damage, when we bought our coach, so replaced it with one on Tom Whitton's found at:
>
> http://www.conceptsteeringwheels.com/
>
> It cost a fortune, ...but we love that we did it. Video of same at:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5C3qsOFBAQ
>
> May be pictures at:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cvrn2u
>
> Howard ~n~ Doreen Nylander
> Royale Class of ‘78’, ‘Rocinante’
> Afton, Tn.
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/19/10, Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ken Henderson <ken0henderson@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 11:24 PM
>
>
> Jay,
>
> Almost any GM steering wheel will fit almost any GM vehicle, except, of
> course, for those with air bags. I'd say all will fit all, but someone's
> bound to know of an exception.
>
> The biggest trick is finding how the horn button is attached. The two most
> common, AFAIK, are springs which let you just pull the horn button straight
> off -- those may be restricted to simple round center buttons; and, those
> retained by two screws inserted from the "down" side of the spokes -- those
> obviously for buttons with "spoke ears".
>
> Once you get the button off, you'll find a nut on the end of the steering
> column; sometimes there will be a circlip or similar locking device to
> prevent the nut from coming off. With that out of the way, remove the nut.
> If you're very lucky, or very strong, the wheel may then slide right off of
> the splined column. Usually, you'll need the steering wheel puller you
> borrowed from AutoZone or another auto parts store. That tool will probably
> have a pair of bolts to go through its body and into the two tapped holes in
> the hub of the steering wheel. It will also have a forcing screw in the
> center of its body to push down on the countersunk center of the steering
> column. Turning that bolt will pull the wheel right off; a drop or two of
> penetrating oil might help.
>
> Before you pull the wheel, notice the position of the little spring loaded
> contact that extends throught the hub of the steering wheel -- you want to
> be careful not to damage that when you remove the wheel, and to reposition
> it correctly when installing the replacement wheel.
>
> The wheel will usually fit only one way because of the way the splines are
> cut, but some may allow varying a notch or two -- note the position of your
> old wheel, leave the column locked, and put the replacement on at the same
> angle.
>
> Once you get the horn button off, it's all very obvious and easy.
>
> I like your choice.
>
> Ken H.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it
> > severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO
> > installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of
> > different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the
> > dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.
> >
> >
> > http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382
> >
> > How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or
> > replaced a steering wheel before.
> >
> >
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Re: steering wheels [message #74492 is a reply to message #74419]

Sat, 20 February 2010 16:55

Matt Colie

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jayrabe wrote on Fri, 19 February 2010 23:09

I've got what may be an original steering wheel in my 76 PB, and it severely restricts visibility of all the cool extra gauges that the PO installed. So I'm shopping for a new steering wheel. I've seen lots of different ones, but the one that seems to give the best visibility for the dash gauges is the one I've seen from a Cutlass 442 Calais.

http://www.gmcmhphotos.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=32489&title=78-calais-steering-whe&cat=5382

How do I know if it will fit my steering column? I've never pulled or replaced a steering wheel before.

Thanks

J
Portland, OR

J
You might just contact Tom Whitton at tomwhitton(at)bellsouth(dot)net
When we talked last he had collected, cleaned and/or restored several steering wheels for GMC from different donor vehicles.
See what he has.

Matt

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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74497 is a reply to message #74481]

Sat, 20 February 2010 19:05

Steven Ferguson

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Jay,
SEM vinyl dye is nearly impervious to wear and you can use it to make
any steering wheel an exact match for your coach. I've done this on
so many steering wheels I've lost count. Don't worry about the color,
just get the wheel and for $5 you can make it match.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> You're right, the blue one I missed on ebay was $50, and this red one is $30, vs. probably $15 for an S-10. But you pay your money and take your choice.
>
> J
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:24:24 -0700
>> From: botiemad11@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>>
>> Jay,
>> �I'll bet that puppy costs a ton more than the S-10 one does. �Sure
>> looks nice though.
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks Ken. I've seen the S-10 wheels, and yes, they do have low-mounted spokes and much better visibility, but just from an aesthetic perspective I like the angled spokes on the 442 wheel much better than the horizontal spokes on the S-10.
>> >
>> > J "call me picky" Rabe � :-)
>> > 76 Palm Beach
>> > Portland, OR
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> >> From: n9cv@comcast.net
>> >> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:19:23 -0600
>> >> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> jayrabe wrote on Sat, 20 February 2010 02:40
>> >> > Wow, great pictures. It's still a bit confusing, but I'm sure once I get into it it will all make sense. Haven't got the steering wheel yet, so it's all a bit in the future.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >>
>> >> If you haven't bought one yet also look at the S-10 S-15 truck steering wheel. �It also only has 2 spokes and they are low mounted. �The center is also available with a GMC logo if you get it off of an S-15 GMC truck. �They are about $15.00 at most junk yards.
>> >> --
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>> >> 76 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74502 is a reply to message #74491]

Sat, 20 February 2010 19:54

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Cedar closet liner wood. Very cool. And did you leave it raw so you can
smell it, or did you finish it with something? I'm definitely going to
do it, though probably not for a few months due to other projects. But
I've got part of the orig headliner pulled now (remember previous post
about the mouse nest) so as soon as I get the spray foam original
insulation scraped out and something in to replace it, I'll be doing the
wood headliner.

Thanks for the tips.

J

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:52:44 -0800
> From: uziyah@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
> Hi Jay,
>
> All wood material was purchased from Lowe's closet liner department. Cedar - 3/8 X 31/2 X 8' (longitudinals) - Cross members - oak beams 3/4 X 3? X 8'. Add Liquid Nails, pop rivets and stainless steel screws and collars. Don't forget the liniment for your will be stiff neck.
>
> Good fun. Easy to do. Good luck.
>
> Howard Nylander
> Royale Class of '78'
> Afton, Tn.

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Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels [message #74512 is a reply to message #74502]

Sat, 20 February 2010 21:19

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Hi Jay,
�
We had the choice of using a darker and more�aromatic cedar or less aromatic and lighter in color cedar for our ceiling. We chose the lighter in color, and less aromatic cedar so as to not make our coach�interior too dark and to prevent it from smelling too much�like a cedar closet.�
�
There is�no finish on our ceiling and the beauty and aroma can be restored by simply removing any oxidation and patina by rubbing same with a�fine grade of steel wool.
�
Please feel free to ask questions, keep us posted of your adventure and share pictures as you can. The beauty of what my wife and I did is that you don't have to remove the old wall paper and glue nor remove the cabinets. �
�
Thanks for your interest and kind thoughts.
�
Howard Nylander
Royale Class of '78'
Afton, Tn.
�

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From: Jay Rabe <jayrabe@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 8:54 PM

Cedar closet liner wood. Very cool. And did you leave it raw so you can
smell it, or did you finish it with something? I'm definitely going to
do it, though probably not for a few months due to other projects. But
I've got part of the orig headliner pulled now (remember previous post
about the mouse nest) so as soon as I get the spray foam original
insulation scraped out and something in to replace it, I'll be doing the
wood headliner.

Thanks for the tips.

J

> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:52:44 -0800
> From: uziyah@yahoo.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] steering wheels
>
> Hi Jay,
>�
> All wood material was purchased from Lowe's closet liner department. Cedar - 3/8 X 31/2 X 8' (longitudinals) - Cross members - oak beams 3/4 X 3? X 8'.� Add Liquid Nails, pop rivets and stainless steel screws and collars. Don't forget the liniment for your will be stiff neck.
>�
> Good fun. Easy to do. Good luck.
>�
> Howard Nylander
> Royale Class of '78'
> Afton, Tn.

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