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| Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73768] |
Sat, 13 February 2010 22:13  |
psakw
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I have a Howell Fuel Injection unit which I have spent a fortune on, I have called them 20 times to fix it and I have been advised to put in a exhaust sensor, then a map sensor, then a new computer, then new chips, then new injectors, last they told me to put in a new distributor. I still have the same problem. It runs good for a while (20 to 100 miles) then goes rich and pumps out black smoke for a while. Then back to normal. If you happen to be close to idle when it goes rich the engine dies.
Can anybody fix this problem?
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| Re: Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73793 is a reply to message #73768] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 08:34  |
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RF_Burns
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There are a number of us working on some small issues with the Howell system, although none of us have experienced what you are describing that I can remember.
It seems the main source of our issues is that Holley stopped making the 80pph injectors needed in our application, and are supply 60pph instead. This is causing issues such as stumbling when going off idle. Howell doesn't seem to have realized this has happened, and likely for the majority of their customers with smaller engines it is not an issue.
In order to increase the fuel flow with these injectors we need to increase the fuel pressure from 13.5 up to 21 psi. There is an adjustment for fuel pressure shown in the Howell documentation.
What I think may be happening is your injectors are running such a high duty cycle that they may be sticking "Open", then you are getting a very rich mixture. Eventually the injector cools and starts working properly again and all is good.
Emery has noted this fuel pressure setting has a habit of dropping caused by engine vibration. He suggests using a second allen screw as a "Jam screw" against the fuel pressure set screw to stop this from happening. Your pressure may have dropped below the Howell setting and now your injectors are running such a high duty cycle that they may overheat and stick open. then the computer tries to lean the mixture and since less current is flowing in the injectors they can cool off and start operating correctly again.
Get a 0-30psi gauge and install it in the supply line at the firewall so you can easily see it. Check the pressure, Howell says they set it for 15psi. Try increasing the fuel pressure, maybe to 18 and let the computer "learn" that setting before going higher.
Just my best guess, since it seems like you have tried everything else!
Bruce Hislop
ON Canada
77PB, 455 Dick P. rebuilt, DynamicEFI EBL EFI & ESC.
1 ton front end
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My Staff says I never listen to them, or something like that
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73832 is a reply to message #73806] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 16:26 |
jimk
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Paul,
Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
a new one to plug in and try,
Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
strange problems.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array <pumppal1@aol.com> wrote:
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> Thank you Gene:
> I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change the gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the manifold.
> I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
> I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold. I do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first 25 to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going rich.
> Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I have been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
> Thank you and keep it coming.
>
> Paul A.
> 73 - 455 that runs terrible
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73854 is a reply to message #73832] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 19:26 |
zhagrieb
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Jim, how can you not like American cars like Honda and Toyota?
Glenn Giere
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Paul,
> Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
> problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
> a new one to plug in and try,
> Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
> strange problems.
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array <pumppal1@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thank you Gene:
> > I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change the
> gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the
> manifold.
> > I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and
> wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
> > I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold. I
> do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is
> intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first 25
> to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going rich.
> > Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I have
> been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the
> pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
> > Thank you and keep it coming.
> >
> > Paul A.
> > 73 - 455 that runs terrible
> > _______________________________________________
> > GMCnet mailing list
> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73869 is a reply to message #73768] |
Sun, 14 February 2010 22:05 |
JohnL455
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Sounds to me like fuel pressure going erratic. I never seen a Howell system so just guessing that it is the regulator or if there is a vacuum signal to the regulator it could be something "stupid" like a cracked vac hose. I bet it's something simple. Do these things set codes to read? Can you watch it with a scan tool to see which data is going wacky when it happens?
John Lebetski
Woodstock, IL
77 Eleganza II
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73932 is a reply to message #73768] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 17:36 |
Mr ERFisher
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be sure to report back when you find this is not a Howell problem
gene
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM, paul array <pumppal1@aol.com> wrote:
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>
> I have a Howell Fuel Injection unit which I have spent a fortune on, I have
> called them 20 times to fix it and I have been advised to put in a exhaust
> sensor, then a map sensor, then a new computer, then new chips, then new
> injectors, last they told me to put in a new distributor. I still have the
> same problem. It runs good for a while (20 to 100 miles) then goes rich and
> pumps out black smoke for a while. Then back to normal. If you happen to be
> close to idle when it goes rich the engine dies.
>
> Can anybody fix this problem?
> _______________________________________________
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73934 is a reply to message #73854] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 18:54 |
jimk
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Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
USA, I have no use for them.
They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
then sit and discuss.
They also think that Americans are substandard.
That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
addressed and it would go away.
They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying tax.
These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
in by containerised cargo from Japan.
We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jim, how can you not like American cars like Honda and Toyota?
>
> Glenn Giere
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>> Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
>> problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
>> a new one to plug in and try,
>> Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
>> strange problems.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array <pumppal1@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you Gene:
>> > I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change the
>> gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the
>> manifold.
>> > I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and
>> wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
>> > I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold. I
>> do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is
>> intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first 25
>> to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going rich.
>> > Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I have
>> been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the
>> pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
>> > Thank you and keep it coming.
>> >
>> > Paul A.
>> > 73 - 455 that runs terrible
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73937 is a reply to message #73934] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 19:05 |
Kingsley Coach
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Jim
This is going to sound a bit strange, but I'd like you to ease up a
little in your anti-Japanese commentaries. I understand these are your own
opinions, but they boarder on offensive.
Now I think I'll run for cover...
Mike in NS
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com> wrote:
> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
> USA, I have no use for them.
> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
> then sit and discuss.
> They also think that Americans are substandard.
> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
> addressed and it would go away.
> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying
> tax.
> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
>
> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Giere <glenngiere@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Jim, how can you not like American cars like Honda and Toyota?
> >
> > Glenn Giere
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jim Kanomata <jimkanomata@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Paul,
> >> Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
> >> problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
> >> a new one to plug in and try,
> >> Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
> >> strange problems.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array <pumppal1@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thank you Gene:
> >> > I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change
> the
> >> gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the
> >> manifold.
> >> > I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and
> >> wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
> >> > I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold.
> I
> >> do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is
> >> intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first
> 25
> >> to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going
> rich.
> >> > Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I
> have
> >> been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the
> >> pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
> >> > Thank you and keep it coming.
> >> >
> >> > Paul A.
> >> > 73 - 455 that runs terrible
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > GMCnet mailing list
> >> > List Information and Subscription Options:
> >> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jim Kanomata
> >> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> >> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> >> http://www.appliedgmc.com
> >> 1-800-752-7502
> >> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> Jim Kanomata
> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
> http://www.appliedgmc.com
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
1977 Eleganza II 26-3
Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73954 is a reply to message #73937] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 20:22 |
k2gkk
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Jim K's comments are based in total truth. The Japanese
hold ANYBODY other than Japanese in total contempt. This
is the basis for their unapologetic attitude toward the
atrocities they have committed for many centuries.
That attitude persists today and is as much cultivated in
the Japanese schools as the radical muslim attitude is
propagated in the Madrassas schools funded by Saudi Arabia
throughout the world and even here in the USA.
Mac Macdonald
OKlahoma City
PC Incorrect and defiantly proud of it!
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> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:05:12 -0400
> From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem
>
> Jim
>
> This is going to sound a bit strange, but I'd like you to ease up a
> little in your anti-Japanese commentaries. I understand these are your own
> opinions, but they boarder on offensive.
> Now I think I'll run for cover...
>
> Mike in NS
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>
>> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
>> USA, I have no use for them.
>> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
>> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
>> then sit and discuss.
>> They also think that Americans are substandard.
>> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
>> addressed and it would go away.
>> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying
>> tax.
>> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
>> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
>> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
>> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Giere wrote:
>>> Jim, how can you not like American cars like Honda and Toyota?
>>>
>>> Glenn Giere
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jim Kanomata
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>> Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
>>>> problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
>>>> a new one to plug in and try,
>>>> Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
>>>> strange problems.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Gene:
>>>>> I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change
>> the
>>>> gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the
>>>> manifold.
>>>>> I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and
>>>> wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
>>>>> I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold.
>> I
>>>> do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is
>>>> intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first
>> 25
>>>> to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going
>> rich.
>>>>> Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I
>> have
>>>> been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the
>>>> pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
>>>>> Thank you and keep it coming.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul A.
>>>>> 73 - 455 that runs terrible
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> GMCnet mailing list
>>>>> List Information and Subscription Options:
>>>>> http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Kanomata
>>>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>>> 1-800-752-7502
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> GMCnet mailing list
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>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Kanomata
>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>> 1-800-752-7502
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
> Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73958 is a reply to message #73934] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 20:37 |
C Boyd
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[quote title=jimk wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 19:54]Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
USA, I have no use for them.
They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
then sit and discuss.
They also think that Americans are substandard.
That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
addressed and it would go away.
They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying tax.
These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
in by containerised cargo from Japan.
We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
Jim: My brother-in-law was stationed in Japan for many years and married a Japanese Lady. Her family totaly dis-owned her.
C. Boyd
76 Crestmont
East Tennessee
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73961 is a reply to message #73954] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 20:39 |
jimk
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Registered: July 2006
Location: Belmont, CA
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I respect people.
I must agree that enough is enough.
If I am not man enough to listen, then I feel I'm have no grounds to
say things negativly about them.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:22 PM, D C *Mac* Macdonald <k2gkk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jim K's comments are based in total truth. Â The Japanese
> hold ANYBODY other than Japanese in total contempt. Â This
> is the basis for their unapologetic attitude toward the
> atrocities they have committed for many centuries.
>
> That attitude persists today and is as much cultivated in
> the Japanese schools as the radical muslim attitude is
> propagated in the Madrassas schools funded by Saudi Arabia
> throughout the world and even here in the USA.
>
> Mac Macdonald
> OKlahoma City
>
> PC Incorrect and defiantly proud of it!
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:05:12 -0400
>> From: kingsleygmc@gmail.com
>> To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> This is going to sound a bit strange, but I'd like you to ease up a
>> little in your anti-Japanese commentaries. I understand these are your own
>> opinions, but they boarder on offensive.
>> Now I think I'll run for cover...
>>
>> Mike in NS
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Jim Kanomata wrote:
>>
>>> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
>>> USA, I have no use for them.
>>> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
>>> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
>>> then sit and discuss.
>>> They also think that Americans are substandard.
>>> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
>>> addressed and it would go away.
>>> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying
>>> tax.
>>> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
>>> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
>>> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
>>> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Glenn Giere wrote:
>>>> Jim, how can you not like American cars like Honda and Toyota?
>>>>
>>>> Glenn Giere
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Jim Kanomata
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Paul,
>>>>> Even if you did not purchase the unit from us, if your having a
>>>>> problem that seem to be intermittent, let me know and I will loan you
>>>>> a new one to plug in and try,
>>>>> Manufactures are not very good at assisting customers diagnose these
>>>>> strange problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:27 AM, paul array wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Gene:
>>>>>> I have not checked for cracks in the intake but I am going to change
>>> the
>>>>> gaskets and put block off plates so I will look carefully and zyglow the
>>>>> manifold.
>>>>>> I just put a brand new distributor in from Dick Paterson with cap and
>>>>> wires. Pulled the old one (have it for a spare if anyone needs an HEI)
>>>>>> I havent checked the adaptor plate but will when I pull the manifold.
>>> I
>>>>> do not believe I have a vacuum leak but even if I did this problem is
>>>>> intermittent. This baby will run fine for a while, especially the first
>>> 25
>>>>> to 50 miles and then you never know when it is going to start going
>>> rich.
>>>>>> Low pressure is interesting and you are the third to mention it. I
>>> have
>>>>> been listening to the techs at Howell who keep telling me to lower the
>>>>> pressure. I will set it higher now and try it out.
>>>>>> Thank you and keep it coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul A.
>>>>>> 73 - 455 that runs terrible
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jim Kanomata
>>>>> Applied/GMC, Fremont,CA
>>>>> jimk@appliedairfilters.com
>>>>> http://www.appliedgmc.com
>>>>> 1-800-752-7502
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>> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
>> 1977 Eleganza II 26-3
>> Antigonish, NS
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73970 is a reply to message #73934] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 21:21 |
shawnee
Messages: 422
Registered: February 2004
Location: NC
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| jimk wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 19:54 |
Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
USA, I have no use for them.
They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
then sit and discuss.
They also think that Americans are substandard.
That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
addressed and it would go away.
They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without paying tax.
These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
in by containerised cargo from Japan.
We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
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Jim,
I had the same problem on my old job before I retired. We made Lithium metal for batteries and we had Japanese customers. At least once a year company representatives would come to our plant for a meeting. Only one of about eight people could speak English. Next meeting again the same people, but another of them was the only one who could speak English. The one would translate and they would confer before giving an answer. That meeting one of the people asked a question for the one to translate to me, but knowing a small amount of Japanese language I could tell what he ask. I answered him in English and there were surprised looks on the rest of their faces and after that everyone spoke English. Good thing they didn't want to conduct the meeting in Japanese or I would have been lost. They have a great tactic since they can deliberate and get all their thoughts together and in effect control the meeting.
When our company president called me to tell me about their first visit he said he wanted to make sure I was on my best behavior and treat them well. I told him not to worry that I would wear my Japanese Occupation Medal and we should get along well. He insisted that was NOT what he meant.
Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
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| Re: [GMCnet] Howell Fuel Injection ? Problem [message #73979 is a reply to message #73970] |
Mon, 15 February 2010 22:25 |
emerystora
Messages: 4442
Registered: January 2004
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Gene
That reminds me of a meeting I once had at Dow Chemical during my
stint there as a Regional Credit manager.
We had a customer named Shintec which made PVC pipe from Dow's vinyl
chloride. They built a plant right across from one of Dows plants and
we installed a pipeline from our plant to theirs.
This company was a joint venture between Robintech, a US company and
Shinitsu Chemical, a Japanese company. Robintech was the managing
partner.
Shintech stopped paying their invoices and were past due for a few
million dollars. When I couldn't get any promise to pay I called our
plant manager and told him to shut the valve on the pipeline. He
called the general credit manager, my boss, who backed me completely
and we shut down the pipeline.
Two days later I got a call that both companies wanted to come to Dows
headquarters for a meeting.
Four Japanese were there from Japan and the President of Robintech and
some of his people were there.
The head people from Japan all spoke through an interpretor. As the
meeting progressed I asked the President of Robintech (Brad Corbett,
who also owned the Rexas Rangers) why they couldn't pay their bills.
He then admitted that he had a bid out for Catfish Hunter and needed a
few million on hand in case he won Catfish and had to pay a retainer
to him.
At that point the head Japanese called for a break. During the break I
went to the restroom. The second in command from Japan was standing
outside the restroom and appeared to be guarding the door. When I
entered the head Japanese man was alone inside. He bowed to me and
then in perfect English apologised to me and said he was so sorry but
he had no idea what Robintech was doing. He also told me that he would
have the past due amount wire transferred the next day.
That was my first experience with the Japanese ploy of pretending not
to know English to get an advantage in negotiations
We got our money and I reopened the pipeline.
Two weeks later I wired our salesman in our Dallas office that "now
that the Yankees have won Catfish, Shintech should have no excuse on
payments in the future".
Emery Stora
On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:21 PM, Gene Dotson <shawnee@charter.net> wrote:
>
>
> jimk wrote on Mon, 15 February 2010 19:54
>> Being a Japanese American and knowing how they operate here in the
>> USA, I have no use for them.
>> They are RUDE. When you meet with them , they will huddle at one end
>> of the table and speak Japanese and determine what they need to do
>> then sit and discuss.
>> They also think that Americans are substandard.
>> That is why they feel that the problem with their product did not be
>> addressed and it would go away.
>> They use their banks here to funnel money back to Japan without
>> paying tax.
>> These cars are assembled here, but majority of the parts are brought
>> in by containerised cargo from Japan.
>> We need to support the GM, Ford and Crysler. The Japanese car
>> manufactures can go back to their rising sun.
>
>
> Jim,
>
> I had the same problem on my old job before I retired. We made
> Lithium metal for batteries and we had Japanese customers. At least
> once a year company representatives would come to our plant for a
> meeting. Only one of about eight people could speak English. Next
> meeting again the same people, but another of them was the only one
> who could speak English. The one would translate and they would
> confer before giving an answer. That meeting one of the people
> asked a question for the one to translate to me, but knowing a small
> amount of Japanese language I could tell what he ask. I answered
> him in English and there were surprised looks on the rest of their
> faces and after that everyone spoke English. Good thing they didn't
> want to conduct the meeting in Japanese or I would have been lost.
> They have a great tactic since they can deliberate and get all their
> thoughts together and in effect control the meeting.
>
> When our company president called me to tell me about their first
> visit he said he wanted to make sure I was on my best behavior and
> treat them well. I told him not to worry that I would wear my
> Japanese Occupation Medal and we should get along well. He insisted
> that was NOT what he meant.
>
> --
> Gene Dotson
> 74 Canyonlands
> www.bdub.net/Motorhome_Enhancements
>
> New Windows and Aluminum Radiators
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