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Thu, 11 February 2010 10:21  |
kenneth hugelier
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Rick,
I worked for Chevrolet Division of GMC when our coaches were first coming out. Alex Mair was head of Chev. Truck when I first started. I was a Field Service Rep.(same job as Jim K. had with Ford) so had first hand knowledge of vehicle problems at that time. It was so long ago and cars of all kinds are sooo much better now, it seems the auto industry was in it's infancy as far as quality and dependability goes. How time flies.
I now drive a Subaru outback with 160K. I have only done normal maintenance during that time (brakes, tires, etc.). I, like you have a miss when the engine is wet or damp. I know what it is, I just have not fixed it yet. It just need a set of ignition wires. As for your Subaru, it is time for a timing belt change. When you have it done, have the belt tensioner replaced and the water pump as well. Cheap insurance while you are in there. Replace the wires (can't believe what new wires cost!), your car will be good for another 100K. I will be in the market for a new car in the spring and honestly, I don't know what to get. Thinking a turbo Impreza, but there are so many cool vehicles to look at.
ken hugelier 77 PB Det. Mich.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toyota coverup [message #73548 is a reply to message #73544] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 10:45  |
Rick Denney
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ken hugelier writes...
> I now drive a Subaru outback with 160K. I have only done normal
> maintenance during that time (brakes, tires, etc.). I, like you
> have a miss when the engine is wet or damp. I know what it is, I
> just have not fixed it yet. It just need a set of ignition wires. As
> for your Subaru, it is time for a timing belt change. When you have
> it done, have the belt tensioner replaced and the water pump as
> well. Cheap insurance while you are in there. Replace the wires
> (can't believe what new wires cost!), your car will be good for
> another 100K. I will be in the market for a new car in the spring
> and honestly, I don't know what to get. Thinking a turbo Impreza,
> but there are so many cool vehicles to look at.
All good advice, and I appreciate it. That vehicle needs to be
reliable at this point.
I had suspected ignition wires because our older Outback had had a
similar problem with about the same number of miles. But then I
noticed this had a coil-on-plug design and couldn't remember if the
old one did.
Yes, it's time for the timing belt, too. Those miles come in a hurry
for us.
Rick "thinking wet, damp engines are the norm around here right now"
Denney
'73 230 Ex-Glacier "Jaws"
Northern Virginia
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toyota coverup [message #73560 is a reply to message #73544] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 15:28 |
Steven Ferguson
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Ken,
Those have to be excellent cars. If you've ever been through
Colorado, every other vehicle is an Outback. Of course, they could be
free there.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:21 AM, ken hugelier <kahugelier@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Rick,
> I worked for Chevrolet Division of GMC when our coaches were first coming out. Alex Mair was head of Chev. Truck when I first started. I was a Field Service Rep.(same job as Jim K. had with Ford) so had first hand knowledge of vehicle problems at that time. It was so long ago and cars of all kinds are sooo much better now, it seems the auto industry was in it's infancy as far as quality and dependability goes. How time flies.
> I now drive a Subaru outback with 160K. I have only done normal maintenance during that time (brakes, tires, etc.). I, like you have a miss when the engine is wet or damp. I know what it is, I just have not fixed it yet. It just need a set of ignition wires. As for your Subaru, it is time for a timing belt change. When you have it done, have the belt tensioner replaced and the water pump as well. Cheap insurance while you are in there. Replace the wires (can't believe what new wires cost!), your car will be good for another 100K. I will be in the market for a new car in the spring and honestly, I don't know what to get. Thinking a turbo Impreza, but there are so many cool vehicles to look at.
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> ken hugelier 77 PB Det. Mich.
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toyota coverup [message #73570 is a reply to message #73544] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 17:05 |
Craig Lechowicz
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Ken,
Did not know you were an ex-GM'er. I think Alex Mair was General Manager of GMC and not Chevy when GMC m/h's were being built, although it's hard for me to keep the years straight. I never knew him personally, but did sit through an amazing presentation he gave on about 30 years of GM's history of annual model changes and the related amounts of engineering change involved. (all before they had computers). He did all the divisions, by year, off the top of his head with no notes. And, was nice enough to put the presentation together for us on Product Planning Staff after he was retired. A few years later ('88) I moved to GMC (wait for it, GMC content coming up!) and there were still a lot of stories around there about both his travels in GMC's and let's say his more hotel-oriented uses of GMC motorhomes. He was also famous for hanging out at the Fox and Hounds on Woodward with John DeLorean and others. Very colorful guy and brilliant engineering reputation. (retired as Vice Chairman of GM Advanced Engineering)
For Rick,
Ken makes a very good point on timing belt maintenance. Not sure about Subaru's but some DOHC engines can crash the valves into each other when the belt fails transforming maintenance into a very expensive repair. And, if it is an "interference" design, it matters both which way and in what order you turn the cams to re-install the belt if you disturb the timing. (Ask me how I know how expensive 450cc Honda Twin valves are).
Craig Lechowicz
'77 Kingsley, Waterford, MI
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| Re: [GMCnet] Toyota coverup [message #73596 is a reply to message #73544] |
Thu, 11 February 2010 21:49 |
jimk
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Ken,
Please consider either GM, Ford,or Crysler products.
The Japanese do not need your support.
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:21 AM, ken hugelier <kahugelier@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Rick,
> Â Â Â Â Â I worked for Chevrolet Division of GMC when our coaches were first coming out. Alex Mair was head of Chev. Truck when I first started. I was a Field Service Rep.(same job as Jim K. had with Ford) so had first hand knowledge of vehicle problems at that time. It was so long ago and cars of all kinds are sooo much better now, it seems the auto industry was in it's infancy as far as quality and dependability goes. How time flies.
> I now drive a Subaru outback with 160K. I have only done normal maintenance during that time (brakes, tires, etc.). I, like you have a miss when the engine is wet or damp. I know what it is, I just have not fixed it yet. It just need a set of ignition wires. As for your Subaru, it is time for a timing belt change. When you have it done, have the belt tensioner replaced and the water pump as well. Cheap insurance while you are in there. Replace the wires (can't believe what new wires cost!), your car will be good for another 100K. I will be in the market for a new car in the spring and honestly, I don't know what to get. Thinking a turbo Impreza, but there are so many cool vehicles to look at.
>
> ken hugelier  77 PB  Det. Mich.
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