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Trans service [message #72373] |
Sun, 31 January 2010 12:55 |
bukzin
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Taking coach into local shop for our transmission leak.
What else might a good shop look at while its on the rack?
Guess a new filter and fluid are a must,
but what else should I have them check out or adjust?
Thanks!
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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filter 'O' rings [message #72425 is a reply to message #72421] |
Sun, 31 January 2010 20:53 |
bukzin
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[quote title=Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 16:47]I've always double o-ringed the filter neck when installing a new
filter....Just what I do.
Mike in NS
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Mike,
What size is that 'O' ring? Is the filter shipped with two
of them?
Anyone have a part number on it?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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part numbers [message #72476 is a reply to message #72374] |
Mon, 01 February 2010 12:33 |
bukzin
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Also make sure
they install the O-ring correctly on the filter. Excuse me if I sound too
defensive on a local shop doing work on the coach, but I do not trust anyone
that does not know GMC.
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J.R. Wright
On Location at Florida Space Coast
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John,
Questions about that 'O' ring.
Does it come with the filter?
Did I read somewhere that 2 are needed?
Any part numbers or photos for it?
Thanks again!
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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Re: [GMCnet] part numbers [message #72479 is a reply to message #72477] |
Mon, 01 February 2010 13:10 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Wix still makes these filters.
When I needed one, I got it out of stock from my friend's speed shop warehouse.
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72488 is a reply to message #72446] |
Mon, 01 February 2010 13:47 |
Kingsley Coach
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Thanks Steve, I was napping......<g>
Use old one from old filter and add it to the new one that comes with the
new filter..
While you have the pan off, do you want to add a drain plug for future usage
if you do it yourself...it will keep you from getting tranny fluid on hands,
wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, between shoulder blades, down back....and an
assortment of other places....
Mike in NS
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
> Just use the old one and the new one that comes with the filter and
> you'll be OK.
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> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > [quote title=Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 16:47]I've
> always double o-ringed the filter neck when installing a new
> > filter....Just what I do.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike in NS
> >
> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > What size is that 'O' ring? Is the filter shipped with two
> > of them?
> >
> > Anyone have a part number on it?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bukzin
> > 1977 Palm Beach
> > Chico California
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> '76 EII
> Sierra Vista, AZ
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1977 Kingsley 26-11
Antigonish, NS
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72493 is a reply to message #72488] |
Mon, 01 February 2010 14:18 |
Ken Burton
Messages: 10030 Registered: January 2004 Location: Hebron, Indiana
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Kingsley Coach wrote on Mon, 01 February 2010 13:47 | Thanks Steve, I was napping......<g>
Use old one from old filter and add it to the new one that comes with the
new filter..
While you have the pan off, do you want to add a drain plug for future usage
if you do it yourself...it will keep you from getting tranny fluid on hands,
wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, between shoulder blades, down back....and an
assortment of other places....
Mike in NS
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Or if you have an extra $185 laying around you can do this:
http://www.ragusarv.com/ Look at the RV-30
Ken Burton - N9KB
76 Palm Beach
Hebron, Indiana
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72554 is a reply to message #72488] |
Mon, 01 February 2010 22:22 |
Steven Ferguson
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Mike,
I have the Ragusa pan on my trans.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Steve, I was napping......<g>
> Use old one from old filter and add it to the new one that comes with the
> new filter..
>
> While you have the pan off, do you want to add a drain plug for future usage
> if you do it yourself...it will keep you from getting tranny fluid on hands,
> wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, between shoulder blades, down back....and an
> assortment of other places....
>
> Mike in NS
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>
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Just use the old one and the new one that comes with the filter and
>> you'll be OK.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > [quote title=Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 16:47]I've
>> always double o-ringed the filter neck when installing a new
>> > filter....Just what I do.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike in NS
>> >
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > What size is that 'O' ring? Is the filter shipped with two
>> > of them?
>> >
>> > Anyone have a part number on it?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bukzin
>> > 1977 Palm Beach
>> > Chico California
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > List Information and Subscription Options:
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Ferguson
>> '76 EII
>> Sierra Vista, AZ
>> Urethane bushing source
>> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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> --
> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> Antigonish, NS
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'76 EII
Sierra Vista, AZ
Urethane bushing source
www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72587 is a reply to message #72554] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 08:41 |
GMC_LES
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For those of you with the Ragusa Transmission Pan, Does the lower bottom
present any concern regarding road obstacles? Being that the Ragusa pan is
aluminum, I'd be afraid of cracking it should I encounter an unexpected
obstacle. The stock steel pan would just dent under moderate impact.
I'm still on the fence regarding buying a Ragusa Pan. I like the benefits,
but the fragility of the aluminum pan is a big concern for me.
What say the experienced ones?
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
75 EL2
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Ferguson
Sent: February 1, 2010 11:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trans service
Mike,
I have the Ragusa pan on my trans.
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72592 is a reply to message #72587] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 09:40 |
shawnee
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Les Burt wrote on Tue, 02 February 2010 09:41 | For those of you with the Ragusa Transmission Pan, Does the lower bottom
present any concern regarding road obstacles? Being that the Ragusa pan is
aluminum, I'd be afraid of cracking it should I encounter an unexpected
obstacle. The stock steel pan would just dent under moderate impact.
I'm still on the fence regarding buying a Ragusa Pan. I like the benefits,
but the fragility of the aluminum pan is a big concern for me.
What say the experienced ones?
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
75 EL2
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Les,
I have been using the Ragusa pan for over 10 years with no problems.
Gene Dotson
74 Canyonlands
www.bdub.net/Motorhome_Enhancements New Windows and Aluminum Radiators
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72599 is a reply to message #72488] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 10:32 |
jimk
Messages: 6734 Registered: July 2006 Location: Belmont, CA
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It's nice to have a drain plug, but not looking at the bottom of the
pan is like not completing a sexual contact.
The debris at the bottom of the pan gives you an indication of what is
happening.
Complete your function.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Kingsley Coach <kingsleygmc@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Steve, I was napping......<g>
> Use old one from old filter and add it to the new one that comes with the
> new filter..
>
> While you have the pan off, do you want to add a drain plug for future usage
> if you do it yourself...it will keep you from getting tranny fluid on hands,
> wrist, arm, elbow, shoulder, between shoulder blades, down back....and an
> assortment of other places....
>
> Mike in NS
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>
>
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> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Steven Ferguson <botiemad11@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Just use the old one and the new one that comes with the filter and
>> you'll be OK.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Richard <bukzin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > [quote title=Kingsley Coach wrote on Sun, 31 January 2010 16:47]I've
>> always double o-ringed the filter neck when installing a new
>> > filter....Just what I do.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike in NS
>> >
>> >>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> >
>> > What size is that 'O' ring? Â Is the filter shipped with two
>> > of them?
>> >
>> > Anyone have a part number on it?
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bukzin
>> > 1977 Palm Beach
>> > Chico California
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > GMCnet mailing list
>> > List Information and Subscription Options:
>> > http://temp.gmcnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gmclist
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Ferguson
>> '76 EII
>> Sierra Vista, AZ
>> Urethane bushing source
>> www.bdub.net/ferguson/
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>
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> Michael Beaton
> 1977 Kingsley 26-11
> Antigonish, NS
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magnetic drain plug [message #72604 is a reply to message #72599] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 10:50 |
bukzin
Messages: 840 Registered: April 2004 Location: North California
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I assume folks with the Ragusa pan
and using one, right?
Bukzin
1977 Palm Beach
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Re: magnetic drain plug [message #72608 is a reply to message #72604] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 11:27 |
tphipps
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I have the Ragusa pan on my transmission, (Thanks to Bill Harvey, Western States). After installing the AL radiator, my temp gauge is basically resting on the peg at the low end of the VDO gauge. It only moves when I climb the 3.5 miles of unimproved road to the top of Flagpole Knob, VA. Then, it may indicate a 20 degree F temperature difference. The Ragusa pan does have one small chip in one of the fins, it did hit something, and did not shatter. Chip is old, do not know when it happened. Not on my watch.
Since the pan is AL, I also attached a strong magnet (from old hard drive) to the drain plug. Pull the plug, and most if not all of the metal chips are stuck to the plug. Simple enough way to reduce metal chips going where you do not want them.
I believe the Ragusa pan is worth the money and I really like the extra fluid capacity.
Tom Phipps,
75 GMC Ex-Avion
2012 Phoenix Cruiser model 2552
KA4CSG
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Re: [GMCnet] magnetic drain plug [message #72614 is a reply to message #72608] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 12:51 |
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ljdavick
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Sticking a magnet on the plug is a brilliant idea! I've thought about
getting a magnetic plug but this is even easier. I have a few rare
earth button magnets that would do the job.
Thank you!
Larry Davick
Ljdavick at comcast.net
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I have the Ragusa pan on my transmission, (Thanks to Bill Harvey,
> Western States). After installing the AL radiator, my temp gauge is
> basically resting on the peg at the low end of the VDO gauge. It
> only moves when I climb the 3.5 miles of unimproved road to the top
> of Flagpole Knob, VA. Then, it may indicate a 20 degree F
> temperature difference. The Ragusa pan does have one small chip in
> one of the fins, it did hit something, and did not shatter. Chip is
> old, do not know when it happened. Not on my watch.
> Since the pan is AL, I also attached a strong magnet (from old hard
> drive) to the drain plug. Pull the plug, and most if not all of the
> metal chips are stuck to the plug. Simple enough way to reduce
> metal chips going where you do not want them.
> I believe the Ragusa pan is worth the money and I really like the
> extra fluid capacity.
>
> Tom Phipps,
> 75 GMC Ex-Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] magnetic drain plug [message #72615 is a reply to message #72614] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 13:05 |
jimk
Messages: 6734 Registered: July 2006 Location: Belmont, CA
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When it comes to magnets there are the standard and the stronger ones.
We sell the stronger ones, but people call and el us were overpriced
until we found from the supplier why they were charging us more.
The standard ones do not catch much compared to our strong ones.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Larry Davick <ljdavick@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sticking a magnet on the plug is a brilliant idea! Â I've thought about
> getting a magnetic plug but this is even easier. I have a few rare
> earth button magnets that would do the job.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Larry Davick
> Ljdavick at comcast.net
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> On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Thomas Phipps <tph1pp5@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I have the Ragusa pan on my transmission, (Thanks to Bill Harvey,
>> Western States). Â After installing the AL radiator, my temp gauge is
>> basically resting on the peg at the low end of the VDO gauge. Â It
>> only moves when I climb the 3.5 miles of unimproved road to the top
>> of Flagpole Knob, VA. Â Then, it may indicate a 20 degree F
>> temperature difference. Â The Ragusa pan does have one small chip in
>> one of the fins, it did hit something, and did not shatter. Â Chip is
>> old, do not know when it happened. Â Not on my watch.
>> Since the pan is AL, I also attached a strong magnet (from old hard
>> drive) to the drain plug. Â Pull the plug, and most if not all of the
>> metal chips are stuck to the plug. Â Simple enough way to reduce
>> metal chips going where you do not want them.
>> I believe the Ragusa pan is worth the money and I really like the
>> extra fluid capacity.
>>
>> Tom Phipps,
>> 75 GMC Ex-Avion
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Re: [GMCnet] Trans service [message #72629 is a reply to message #72587] |
Tue, 02 February 2010 16:55 |
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USAussie
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Les,
I decided against putting one on The Blue Streak because of the fact that
there are quite a few unimproved roads in the Outback and God knows what you
might hit.
Manny suggested I fit a Ragusa aluminum cover to the 3.21 to 1 final drive
he rebuilt for me but I decided against that too for the same reason. I
added a drain plug to the steel one to facilitate changing the oil.
I was told by one GMC vendor that he didn't sell them because he had
problems with them being porous.
I bought a steel pan on eBay with a bung in it for a thermocouple and I
added a drain plug, however, Jim K makes a good point the crud in the bottom
of the pan tells you what's going on in the trans.
Regards,
Rob Mueller
Sydney, Australia
AUS '75 Avion-The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
USA '75 Avion-Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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[mailto:gmclist-bounces@temp.gmcnet.org] On Behalf Of Les Burt
Sent: Wednesday, 3 February 2010 1:42 AM
To: gmclist@temp.gmcnet.org
Subject: Re: [GMCnet] Trans service
For those of you with the Ragusa Transmission Pan, Does the lower bottom
present any concern regarding road obstacles? Being that the Ragusa pan is
aluminum, I'd be afraid of cracking it should I encounter an unexpected
obstacle. The stock steel pan would just dent under moderate impact.
I'm still on the fence regarding buying a Ragusa Pan. I like the benefits,
but the fragility of the aluminum pan is a big concern for me.
What say the experienced ones?
Thanks,
Les Burt
Montreal
75 EL2
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Rob M. (USAussie)
The Pedantic Mechanic
Sydney, Australia
'75 Avion - AUS - The Blue Streak TZE365V100428
'75 Avion - USA - Double Trouble TZE365V100426
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